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Directadmin Feedback Thread! Feedback wanted to help improve the product!

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  • seriesnseriesn Member
    edited September 2020

    @DA_Mark Couple of suggestion/question regarding the inbuilt backup option:

    • Any news on incremental backup? Not a big fan of too many 3rd party plugins :(
    • Is it possible to "auto delete" old backup after XYZ day without running my own script?
    • Is it possible to auto delete backups for inactive/terminated users?
  • MechanicWebMechanicWeb Member, Patron Provider

    Does anyone know any details about DirectAdmin's bubblewrap? How does it compare to CageFS?

  • php .ini editing per user is not straightforward...
    Can you put up something like easyapaches multiphp ini editor?

    Just about an hour ago I had to edit the main .ini file for php to increase upload limit because local .ini nor .htaccess didnt work

  • @gwnd1989 said:
    php .ini editing per user is not straightforward...
    Can you put up something like easyapaches multiphp ini editor?

    Just about an hour ago I had to edit the main .ini file for php to increase upload limit because local .ini nor .htaccess didnt work

    Did you try php settings editor on user level?

  • Still waiting for the ability to map add-on domains to the same doc-root as each other; not the same as domain aliases, in that I want separate SSL certificates (or add ability to issue LE SSL's to domain aliases separately). Having 30 domains on the same cert is not desirable.

  • @MechanicWeb said:
    Does anyone know any details about DirectAdmin's bubblewrap? How does it compare to CageFS?

    I believe bubblewrap in DA is related to user SSH and cron jobs only, in that it will prevent access to other users' home directories either via SSH or a script running with cron. Bubblewrap is not a direct replacement for CloudLinux and CageFS.

    Maybe @smtalk could explain a bit more how bubblewrap is integrated into DA.

  • MechanicWebMechanicWeb Member, Patron Provider

    @LeonDynamic said: I believe bubblewrap in DA is related to user SSH and cron jobs only

    Thank you for the reply.

    So, it does not isolate PHP processes?

    I am a big fan of DA + OpenLiteSpeed. It would be nice if it would isolate PHP processes, too.

  • @MechanicWeb said:
    Thank you for the reply.

    So, it does not isolate PHP processes?

    I am a big fan of DA + OpenLiteSpeed. It would be nice if it would isolate PHP processes, too.

    At this time I believe DA only supports a jailed shell and cron environment. Bubblewrap is available on GitHub - https://github.com/containers/bubblewrap - and could work in a similar way to CloudLinux/CageFS. There is more information about bubblewrap and how it works on the LiteSpeed blog - https://blog.litespeedtech.com/2020/07/27/bubblewrap-in-litespeed-web-server/

    I am also a big fan of DA & OpenLiteSpeed, in a weird way I like how the OLS panel is read-only as it makes me learn new things about how DA integrates with OLS. Interestingly OLS like LiteSpeed appears to have full integration for bubblewrap - https://openlitespeed.org/kb/bubblewrap-in-openlitespeed/

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  • @LeonDynamic said:

    @MechanicWeb said:
    Does anyone know any details about DirectAdmin's bubblewrap? How does it compare to CageFS?

    I believe bubblewrap in DA is related to user SSH and cron jobs only, in that it will prevent access to other users' home directories either via SSH or a script running with cron. Bubblewrap is not a direct replacement for CloudLinux and CageFS.

    Maybe @smtalk could explain a bit more how bubblewrap is integrated into DA.

    BubbleWrap works with FastCGI PHP mode in 1.61.3. 1.61.4 is planned for tomorrow, it comes with BubbleWrap support for OpenLiteSpeed and LiteSpeed, we worked together on integration of BubbleWrap with DA (and OLS/LS).

    So, it isolates SSH/Cronjobs and PHP (in case OpenLiteSpeed/LiteSpeed or FastCGI is used).

  • @smtalk with the 1.61.4 update will bubblewrap with OLS be activated by default after installing with custombuild as can't see anything on the release log other than SMTP delivery.

  • @LeonDynamic said:
    @smtalk with the 1.61.4 update will bubblewrap with OLS be activated by default after installing with custombuild as can't see anything on the release log other than SMTP delivery.

    If bubblewrap jailing is enabled for user/package - it will.

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  • @smtalk said:

    @gwnd1989 said:
    php .ini editing per user is not straightforward...
    Can you put up something like easyapaches multiphp ini editor?

    Just about an hour ago I had to edit the main .ini file for php to increase upload limit because local .ini nor .htaccess didnt work

    Did you try php settings editor on user level?

    Where is that?
    I can only change the php version there

  • @gwnd1989 said:
    Where is that?
    I can only change the php version there

    It’s in the 1.61.4 being released tomorrow. There will be an icon in the user dashboard to change individual PHP settings (upload limit, memory limits, etc) which then it gets written to the users php.conf file. More user friendly than the existing method of using user.ini files

  • coolicecoolice Member
    edited September 2020

    @MechanicWeb said:

    @LeonDynamic said: I believe bubblewrap in DA is related to user SSH and cron jobs only

    Thank you for the reply.

    So, it does not isolate PHP processes?

    I am a big fan of DA + OpenLiteSpeed. It would be nice if it would isolate PHP processes, too.

    LiteSpeed / OpenLiteSpeed also released bubble warp (again no docs explanation only one line)

    LSWS 6.0 RC1

    MAJOR NEW FEATURE Bubblewrap isolated CGI/PHP execution environments.

    https://www.litespeedtech.com/products/litespeed-web-server/release-log

    OLS did that a month ago

    https://openlitespeed.org/release-log/version-1-6-x/

    V1.6.15 Stable
    2020-08-05

    Server Core

    [Major New Feature] Bubblewrap isolated CGI/PHP execution environments.

    ==========================================================

    Lack of documentation stop me to do test how that works (both together) DA one + LS one but I will spend some time next month ... I hope they will add documentation when released 6.0 + Ubuntu 5.4 kernel + ZFS

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  • Is it possible to have built in browser ssh ? it's great for accessing terminal without the need to setup ssh, keys, pair, ssh client, etc.

    Something like this on hostmanits

    Usually I use it to import huge db. Because phpmyadmin is slow as hell, and often crashed and give up when importing a huge db.

  • @MechanicWeb said:

    @LeonDynamic said: I believe bubblewrap in DA is related to user SSH and cron jobs only

    Thank you for the reply.

    So, it does not isolate PHP processes?

    I am a big fan of DA + OpenLiteSpeed. It would be nice if it would isolate PHP processes, too.

    DA Version 1.61.4 is out it has

    BubbleWrap for LiteSpeed (TEMPLATES)

    https://www.directadmin.com/features.php?id=2866

    this is the first time someone explains how to enable so your wish came true

  • MechanicWebMechanicWeb Member, Patron Provider

    @coolice said: Lack of documentation stop me to do test how that works (both together) DA one + LS one but I will spend some time next month ... I hope they will add documentation when released 6.0 + Ubuntu 5.4 kernel + ZFS

    Keep us posted of your findings. I am currently engaged in another RND and do not think would be able to test it before you.

    @coolice said: this is the first time someone explains how to enable so your wish came true

    I hope so!

  • @yokowasis said:
    Is it possible to have built in browser ssh ? it's great for accessing terminal without the need to setup ssh, keys, pair, ssh client, etc.

    Something like this on hostmanits

    Usually I use it to import huge db. Because phpmyadmin is slow as hell, and often crashed and give up when importing a huge db.

    Terminal features such as in cpanel are eagerly awaited to minimize users who are lazy to use putty

    I saw the latest version of DA has a cool file manager can open multiple editor and drag drop

  • LMFTFY

    @kang28ivan said: .. Windoze lusers who are too lazy to use putty

    Linux=open a terminal, ssh with keys, done.

  • The last two installs of directadmin failed for me yesterday. Both using Ubuntu 18.04 and CentOS 8.

    Third install worked fine. No idea why!

    Install took over 90 mins on a 1 CPU / 2gb ram VPS.

    Custom build for updating or switching software takes about the same time again. What specs are people using on test machines?

    I've used DA on and off (my customer ID is in the 800s) for 15 years.

  • MechanicWebMechanicWeb Member, Patron Provider

    @enhancedhost said: What specs are people using on test machines?

    I have a 12 core among others ;)

  • @enhancedhost said:
    The last two installs of directadmin failed for me yesterday. Both using Ubuntu 18.04 and CentOS 8.

    Third install worked fine. No idea why!

    Install took over 90 mins on a 1 CPU / 2gb ram VPS.

    Custom build for updating or switching software takes about the same time again. What specs are people using on test machines?

    I've used DA on and off (my customer ID is in the 800s) for 15 years.

    The newer version takes up almost 4 GB of memory while compiling. Enable swap and it should be good to go.

    CPU power does play a major role in overall compiling process.

    Thanked by 2vimalware ViridWeb
  • JamesFJamesF Member, Host Rep

    I wonder if they will speed up the install?

  • @experttechit said:
    I wonder if they will speed up the install?

    Unlikely to happen, unless they pre-package some things. I found pre-installing ccache helps a bit but YMMV. It's the compile everything approach that slows down the install.

  • Are you installing it to dedicated servers? If not, VPS providers usually offer instances with DA pre-installed (from VM templates), so, no compilation is needed at all in cases like that.

  • MechanicWebMechanicWeb Member, Patron Provider

    @experttechit said: wonder if they will speed up the install?

    I would imagine it would involve a complete rewrite of the custombuild. From what I've seen from their interests, that's a no go.

  • JamesFJamesF Member, Host Rep

    @MechanicWeb said:

    @experttechit said: wonder if they will speed up the install?

    I would imagine it would involve a complete rewrite of the custombuild. From what I've seen from their interests, that's a no go.

    That’s a shame.... i was hoping they would do something......

  • MechanicWebMechanicWeb Member, Patron Provider

    @experttechit said: i was hoping they would do something......

    In their defense, they are growing.

    And when you are growing, it is difficult to make a platform change like that.

    What I suggest is based on my experience with cPanel and a few other control panels before that. They might not like things work like cPanel and have a different approach.

    It's just that it is taking longer than some of us would have preferred.

  • Compiling is a bit slow initially, but it is compiled on your cpu for your cpu.... Some people try to convince me that it is not any more the case to make it faster than pre-build binaries and that was maybe true in the period of Intel dominance in the last decade, but now with AMD making the better CPUs and the rise of Ryzen, no one can convince me that compiled on Intel and relased binary will be the same as compiled on Ryzen for Ryzen ...

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  • allow changing of subdomain path/directory at the client/user level. I experience this a while ago when I migrated. I don't want to put my subdomain under my domain's directory. Cpanel allows it without error. DA requires "provider/owner intervention".

    In the end, I did not resolve the problem. I have to use default actions when creating a subdomain. Now I have to watch for accidental deletion when connecting via FTP Filezilla. I experience this unexpected delete. I was traumatized by that. I really wanted to have a clear separation between the parent domain and the subdomain directory.

    From what I understand

    /domains/example.com/public_html/child_directory
    // (child directory should be a subdomain directory)

    I want to have this structure.

    > /domains/example.com/public_html 
      - ( Main Domain Directory)
    > /domains/example.com/subdomain 
      - (Sub-Domain Directory outside parent directory)
    
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