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Acer mentions in their website also https://www.acer.com/ac/en/IN/content/series/swift3
you can confirm with the Acer company.
for common user, especially boy and girl, still recommend Dell, better sound and graphic, etc
but for me, i am satisfy with toshiba
Look at this @raindog308
https://www.sagernotebook.com/home.php
I suggest you read some reviews on this laptop before making a comment. I understand ASUS has some bad devices, but this is not one of them.
Additionally, I was able to get 9 hours of battery life streaming YouTube at 4K on my machine. Again, please conduct some research before attempting to make claims.
I understand why a lot of people are suggesting to buy a Thinkpad, however this is just a laptop for a (young) teenager. So the use case is not really that it has to last for 10+ years. Also, I don’t think a teenage girl would want that kind of beast. Ideapad range by Lenovo is okay, but has its downsides.
In my opinion a Dell Inspiron 15 5000 (The 15 5505 to be specific) would be very good in this particular case. Pretty solid, without getting heavy or bulky and they’re pretty to look at too.
A Huawei MateBook D 15 AMD might be a good deal too, as are various Asus VivoBook laptops with a Ryzen. In that last case you’d want to check them out in store as the build quality varies a bit.
I normally go for a BTO/tailor made laptop, which usually means a good deal as well. Might be worth to look around a bit in your area.
This. I switched from a 2012 MBP to a near max spec IdeaPad 730s (i7-8565U, 2 TB3 ports, 512 GB NVMe) and I still find myself longing for the smooothness of an Apple trackpad.
Windows Precision trackpads have come a long way but even ten year old MBPs have nicer trackpads than 99% of current-gen Windows laptops.
tl;dr I’m probably going to sell this laptop and replace it with a quad core MBA.
XPS 13
I will give my opinion in support of the macbook trackpad. There is no such level of interaction with the system and the cursor as on a macbook on any windows laptop. However, if you set the task of buying an undersized laptop and basically on windows, then this is definitely Dell XPS, since there is no point in overpaying for a MacBook and installing windows on it. You won't get the full trackpad implementation.
MacBook Pro 16" 2020.
No, I would recommand a Thinkpad, with an amazing manufacturing quality...
Thinkpad X1 is just perfect.
They're also 30%+ more than my stated budget...
Ultrabook is suggested if weight and size is important. Zenbook or xps is my personal pick.
Thinkpad E series is not "ThinkPad".
Old generations are still really good!
Second this. The X1s look good too, and super light!
I just got the new acer swift 3 with a ryzen chip. . . geekbenches higher than new macbook pro's at $650
Why on earth would you buy the intel chip version when they make a ryzen for basically the same cost and 1.5x the performance. . . literally. . . compare the intel swift 3 geekbench to the ryzen swift 3, the ryzen destroys the intel.
Some Lenovo, Dell models have the ability to use one PCIe drive and one traditional 2.5" disk. I find it quite convenient. Looks like 10th gen Intel laptops are getting slightly cheaper, but that may be only few models I found. Still Ryzen U4500 destroys them. Perhaps worth to wait a bit for laptops with 4000 series Ryzens to become more widespread (at least in my region there aren't many available yet).
ryzen is good for gaming. but if you compare for apps open like firefox, chrome intel i5 is better performance.
I don't look at Geekbench scores for laptops because I think their main role is to be able to last for as long as possible on battery. If I want to game, I am going with a desktop. As long as the processor is good enough for heavy multitasking of typical working applications, I would look at the power consumption and battery life.
Ideapad slim 7 is available on Staples.
http://www.staples.com/lenovo-ideapad-slim-7-14-laptop-intel-i5-8gb-memory-512gb-ssd-windows-10-home-slate-grey-82a4000mus/product_24435793
I would say excellent device for $699. Metal built, Color accurate screen, thunderbolt, USB C charging, slim profile and good battery life.
http://www.staples.com/lenovo-ideapad-slim-7-14-laptop-intel-i5-8gb-memory-512gb-ssd-windows-10-home-slate-grey-82a4000mus/product_24435793
That's nice.
I've had a variety of Dells and they have been pretty solid.
Very close to what I ended up getting:
https://www.newegg.com/gray-lenovo-flex-5-everyday-value/p/1TS-000E-0JS09?Item=9SIA686BF38809
Largely because it's nearly identical to one her sister bought on her own and sis is happy with it. Considered this ThinkPad:
https://www.newegg.com/black-lenovo-thinkpad-e15-20rd005hus-mainstream/p/2WC-000J-00B46?Item=2WC-000J-00B46&Description=lenovo laptop&cm_re=lenovo_laptop--2WC-000J-00B46--Product&quicklink=true
If it had been for me, I probably would have gotten the ThinkPad...OK, if it was me I would get a Mac or an X1 LOL. Anyway, I value ruggedness (I still have a T7200-era ThinkPad that is a tank), but my daughter wants to play some games as well (e.g., Sims and Minecraft) so the more consumer-style graphics is better. Also 16GB of RAM. Touchscreens on laptops are silly and lack of an ethernet irks me but these things won't matter in this case.
She's a pretty responsible kid so hopefully ruggedness won't be an issue...she's been struggling along with an ancient Acer Atom but all the at-home-zoom-meeting classroom stuff this year kind of pushed it over the edge.
Thanks for all the advice, folks!
The ThinkPad E14 Gen 2 is pretty close to what you ended up getting: https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-e-series/ThinkPad-E14-Gen2-AMD/p/22TPE14E4A2
Lenovo's Thinkpad business class notebooks are legendary in terms of being lasting and also with really comfortable keyboards for typing. No other laptops I have used come close to the Thinkpad's keyboard, which I think is really important for studies but well, the overall look is certain a bit boring compared to the Flex.
The Lenovo E class entry-level Thinkpads are really a good deal now especially the Gen 2s because they are crushing much more expensive Intels in terms of price-performance ratio. Highly recommended if anyone is in the market now for a new and durable Windows-based notebook. The price is really good for the performance you are getting.
I love the keyboards of the Thinkpads. I've been left with the impression they're very long lasting devices with good upgradeability. However, every time I give Windows a chance, I just can't help but feel like it was all made with bare minimum attention to detail and lack of consistency.
Even their office software, the industry standard, simple things like character corruptions with German letters when a CSV file is imported.. They still haven't natively sorted that, you have to correct it yourself. It does not just work like I am so comfortably used to with Pages, Numbers.
These are not things I used to care about it until I got a Mac 8 years ago. Since then, it's been hard to like anything else. As for value, the Macs will retain it for longer than any other branded computer.
Try to setup bootcamp or VMWare maybe? I occasionally fire up a VMWare Windows machine for work.
Though, it's probably a bad time to buy a Mac too, as all of them will be upgraded to Apple Silicon very soon.
Recently got this - https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/acer-aspire-5-15-6-laptop-silver-intel-ci5-1035g1-512gb-ssd-20gb-ram-windows-10/14655796
Solid performance, good battery backup. Volume is pretty decent (usually other laptops I found give really poor volume). It is 800 CAD, probably cheaper in USD. What wowed me was the 20GB RAM (not upgradable though). Relatively light weight (as compared to other 15.6" laptops I saw).
I would go with a used chrome book or a Dell latitude E Series. you can find them on craigslist or a good price.
Everyone suggesting Lenovo but for some reason you're scared of Huawei.
Anyway if that Lenovo comes with windows pre-installed Wireshark the hell out of it. Not to mention Microsoft's own little spying here and there
Good choice. Ryzen 4k is high-performance beast for low-end price...
Unfortunately the achilles heel of macbook trackpads is their forced mouse acceleration. The tight integration of scrolling etc is amazing, but the acceleration ruins it for me - I can get stuff done more quickly on a windows precision trackpad with acceleration disabled (registry tweak), as linear movement is possible to develop muscle memory for
Relating to the OP, macbooks are not great to run windows, for a given model at least make sure it supports precision touchpad drivers and that battery life is not nerfed too badly compared to macos. The old touchpad driver for macbooks on windows is worse than classic synaptics drivers etc
I am using a ASUS ZenBook with a Ryzen 5 series 4000... works very good
Buy Mac, go for Parallels for her, she’ll be fine :-)
Get her a Thinkpad with an i3... great battery life and the most durable model.