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Ew. MyBB all the way or IP.Board if you want to pay for forum software.
Only seen issues with ipb. Constant upgrade problems. Etc. Look at vpsboard. Upgrade downgrades everywhere.
It's simply not the "LET" feeling when we'd switch to vMyPHPBoardBB or whatever. Correct, there are themes and CC or mpkossen could work for hours to get the shit done, but wouldn't you miss Vanillas crappy codebase, security and developers, who are not qualified to ship a production ready product ?
I would never, ever miss Vanilla. The only reason people use it is the theme and that's a real shame.
Exactly, that's what got me hooked and back then I couldn't imagine the size of the mess I was getting into.
"It is being used at LET, can't be so bad!". This was before the hacks and all, obviously.
Is there any way to code a forum like Vanilla? It doesnt seem difficult
That would be quite the undertaking. We're continuing to look at options but no decisions have been made yet.
The thing is, Vanilla, at least in part, is what gives LET its character and uniqueness.
I'd suggest phpBB3; 3.1.6 is great and I'm sure you could theme it to look somewhat similar to this crappy theme as well
[edit: fixed grammar.]
I started an effort for that, at some point, to replace LEB/LET. Then VPSBoard came along, and that idea pretty much went down the priority list.
It's certainly not hard to do, it's just a matter of investing the time into it
(I should note that I personally can't stand either BBCode or WYSIWYG editors.)
I agree, it's a different approach to forums and I like the UX even if the backend is a big liability.
Very much this. I far prefer Vanilla's UX over that of any other forum, except for maybe Discourse - and that one is problematic for all the reasons already mentioned.
If you add basic BBCode, I can send Bitcoins as a donation
Anyone helping this cause?
The UX could work on any system. It shouldn't be confused for Vanilla. Making such a theme for any other forum system isn't as large an undertaking as rewriting the forums is.
Yes, it's possible - it's just very hard on many platforms. Most forum software doesn't support Markdown for example, and subtle things like jumping to the last unread post when clicking a thread can be very hard to implement; especially when the vendor has a habit of making unannounced breaking changes (looking at you, IPB).
Not necessarily. A forum isn't exactly a complex thing to write, especially with the (lack of) features of Vanilla. Sometimes, modifying existing things really does take more time than starting anew.
Which is the case with Vanilla.
I must say that markdown has me puzzled. For the same functions, it's a lot harder than html because there are so many versions and you never know what to expect. It is in fact a specialist language. With html any fool can just google and find the answer in two seconds. Consider also that this is a tech forum - or isn't it? There's nothing wrong with expecting users to use basic html or having the knowledge to google for instructions. Other tech forums allow html, even The Register which has a very wide range of users (9.5 million readers). In their words: "HTML is the open standard of the web. Deal with it, bitches." In my opinion the fact that LET uses markdown is an insult to the technical level of its users.
I love markdown. Go away, @Ole_Juul! Take your HTML with you! ;-)
Ohh shizzzzz 2.2 is out:
http://vanillaforums.org/discussion/31121/vanilla-is-proud-to-present-version-2-2
"You CANNOT DOWNGRADE after upgrading because 2.2 contains a change in password hashing that is irreversible. You would lock yourself (and anyone else who's logged in since the upgrade) out of your account by downgrading."
"Vanilla is proud to present version 2.2"
Shouldn't be proud of anything they've done so far.
I always liked phpBB, not sure why it isn't more popular
It made me cry.
And many, many others. Including me.
Xenforo would be best fit for LET with a bit of customization.
https://xenforo.com/community/threads/anyone-here-who-can-migrate-import-vanilla-to-xenforo.106870/
XenForo is awesome
no no no no no! DO NOT USE XENFORO!!! it is actually too good of a product for this shitty ass community
YES, but not for here. This place doesn't deserve it!
You deserve better than this shittty ass community, please log out and never come back.
REKT.
And yes, Xenforo would be great.
Well, you know. You do not have to spend your time here. It's voluntary.
HTML is also considerably harder to do right. There's actually a specification for Markdown now - I'd consider any implementation that doesn't follow it, to be broken.
XenForo is fairly solid, but I'm not sure you can make the UX match that of Vanilla. It being proprietary is also a downside. And I don't think it supports edit versioning...
Want to keep all the filth to yourself I see.