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1TB Harddrive decided to die
So I've got this wonderful 1TB hardrive from 3 or 4 years ago and decided tonight to die. I made a little drama over the cespit some time ago with some questions and @anonx or somebody told me it'd die soon. He was right.
Before I rebooted my pc, I noticed all my usb automounted drives were umounted, so I rebooted. I could mount everything with your normal desktop gui clicks, but the damn 1TB drive just gave some stupid ntfs drive error of shutting down windows this and that.
So I mounted the drive as root in read only mode and wondering what else can I do other copying down ~300GB-500GB backups, isos and documents and such?
Is it worth reformatting? Can the reformatting save the drive or something?
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Download a program like HD Sentinel to see if the drive can be saved or not:
http://www.hdsentinel.com/
Thanks, it reports that there is nothing to with my drive, but the technical report doesn't mean a whole lot to me.
here's the drive's snippet:
-- Physical Disk Information - Disk: #1: WDC WD10JMVW-11S5XS1 -- Hard Disk Summary ----------------- Hard Disk Number. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 Hard Disk Device. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . /dev/sdb Interface . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Oxford/SAT USB/ATA Hard Disk Model ID. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . WDC WD10JMVW-11S5XS1 Hard Disk Revision. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 01.01A01 Hard Disk Serial Number . . . . . . . . . . . . . WD-WXB1E92WUP63 Hard Disk Total Size. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 953838 MB Current Temperature . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 41 ḞC (106 ḞF) Maximum Temperature (during Entire Lifespan). . . 60 ḞC (140 ḞF) Power On Time . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 208 days, 5 hours Estimated Remaining Lifetime. . . . . . . . . . . more than 1000 days Health. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ###################- 97 % (Excellent) Performance . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . #################### 100 % (Excellent) There are 5 weak sectors found on the disk surface. They may be remapped any time in the later use of the disk. No actions needed. ATA Information --------------- Hard Disk Cylinders . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1937956 Hard Disk Heads . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 16 Hard Disk Sectors . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 63 Total Sectors . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1953459633 ATA Revision. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7 Bytes Per Sector. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 512 Buffer Size . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8192 KB Multiple Sectors. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 16 Error Correction Bytes. . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0 Unformatted Capacity. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 953838 MB Maximum PIO Mode. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 Active PIO Mode . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0 Maximum Multiword DMA Mode. . . . . . . . . . . . 2 Maximum UDMA Mode . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 150 MB/s (6) Active UDMA Mode. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 150 MB/s (0) Minimum Multiword DMA Transfer Time . . . . . . . 120 ns Recommended Multiword DMA Transfer Time . . . . . 120 ns Minimum PIO Transfer Time Without IORDY . . . . . 120 ns Minimum PIO Transfer Time With IORDY. . . . . . . 120 ns ATA Control Byte. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Valid ATA Checksum Value. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Valid Acoustic Management Configuration --------------------------------- Acoustic Management . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Not supported Acoustic Management . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Disabled Current Acoustic Level. . . . . . . . . . . . . . Default (00h) Recommended Acoustic Level. . . . . . . . . . . . Default (00h) EIDE Properties --------------- Read Ahead Buffer . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Not supported DMA . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Supported Ultra DMA . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Supported S.M.A.R.T.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Supported Power Management. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Supported Write Cache . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Supported Host Protected Area . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Not supported Advanced Power Management . . . . . . . . . . . . Supported Power Up In Standby . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Not supported 48-bit LBA Addressing . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Supported Device Configuration Overlay. . . . . . . . . . . Supported IORDY Support . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Supported Read/Write DMA Queue. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Not supported NOP Command . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Supported Trusted Computing . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Not supported 64-bit World Wide ID. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0150E64EF4ADEFAF Streaming . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Not supported Media Card Pass Through . . . . . . . . . . . . . Not supported General Purpose Logging . . . . . . . . . . . . . Supported Error Logging . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Supported CFA Feature Set . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Not supported Long Physical Sectors (8) . . . . . . . . . . . . Supported Long Logical Sectors. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Not supported Write-Read-Verify . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Not supported NV Cache Feature. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Not supported NV Cache Power Mode . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Not supported NV Cache Size . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Not supported Free-fall Control . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Not supported Free-fall Control Sensitivity . . . . . . . . . . Not supported Nominal Media Rotation Rate . . . . . . . . . . . 5400 RPM SSD Features ------------ Data Set Management . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Not supported TRIM Command. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Not supported Deterministic Read After TRIM . . . . . . . . . . Not supported S.M.A.R.T. Details ------------------ Off-line Data Collection Status . . . . . . . . . Never Started Self Test Execution Status. . . . . . . . . . . . Successfully Completed Total Time To Complete Off-line Data Collection . 17760 seconds Execute Off-line Immediate. . . . . . . . . . . . Supported Abort/restart Off-line By Host. . . . . . . . . . Not supported Off-line Read Scanning. . . . . . . . . . . . . . Supported Short Self-test . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Supported Extended Self-test. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Supported Conveyance Self-test. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Supported Selective Self-Test . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Supported Save Data Before/After Power Saving Mode. . . . . Supported Enable/Disable Attribute Autosave . . . . . . . . Supported Error Logging Capability. . . . . . . . . . . . . Supported Short Self-test Estimated Time. . . . . . . . . . 2 minutes Extended Self-test Estimated Time . . . . . . . . 193 minutes Conveyance Self-test Estimated Time . . . . . . . 5 minutes Security Mode ------------- Security Mode . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Supported Security Erase. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Supported Security Erase Time . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 163 minutes Security Enhanced Erase Feature . . . . . . . . . Supported Security Enhanced Erase Time. . . . . . . . . . . 1 minutes Security Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . No Security Locked . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . No Security Frozen . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . No Security Counter Expired. . . . . . . . . . . . . No Security Level. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . High Serial ATA Features ------------------- S-ATA Compliance. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Yes S-ATA I Signaling Speed (1.5 Gps) . . . . . . . . Not supported S-ATA II Signaling Speed (3 Gps). . . . . . . . . Supported Receipt Of Power Management Requests From Host. . Supported PHY Event Counters. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Supported Non-Zero Buffer Offsets In DMA Setup FIS. . . . . Not supported DMA Setup Auto-Activate Optimization. . . . . . . Supported, Disabled Device Initiating Interface Power Management. . . Supported, Disabled In-Order Data Delivery. . . . . . . . . . . . . . Not supported Asynchronous Notification . . . . . . . . . . . . Not supported Software Settings Preservation. . . . . . . . . . Supported, Disabled Native Command Queuing (NCQ). . . . . . . . . . . Supported Queue Length. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 32 S.M.A.R.T. ---------- No. Attribute Thre.. Value Worst Data Status Flags 1 Raw Read Error Rate 51 200 200 00000000012C OK Self Preserving, Error-Rate, Performance, Statistica.. 3 Spin Up Time 21 180 170 0000000007C7 OK Self Preserving, Performance, Statistical, Critical 4 Start/Stop Count 0 99 99 000000000712 OK (Always passing) Self Preserving, Event Count, Statistical 5 Reallocated Sectors Co.. 140 200 200 000000000000 OK Self Preserving, Event Count, Statistical, Critical 7 Seek Error Rate 0 200 200 000000000000 OK (Always passing) Self Preserving, Error-Rate, Performance, Statistical 9 Power On Time Count 0 94 94 000000001385 OK (Always passing) Self Preserving, Event Count, Statistical 10 Spin Retry Count 0 100 100 000000000000 OK (Always passing) Self Preserving, Event Count, Statistical 11 Drive Calibration Retr.. 0 100 100 000000000000 OK (Always passing) Self Preserving, Event Count, Statistical 12 Drive Power Cycle Count 0 100 100 000000000195 OK (Always passing) Self Preserving, Event Count, Statistical 192 Power off Retract Cycl.. 0 200 200 0000000000F9 OK (Always passing) Self Preserving, Event Count, Statistical 193 Load/Unload Cycle Count 0 185 185 00000000B7B3 OK (Always passing) Self Preserving, Event Count, Statistical 194 Disk Temperature 0 106 87 000000000029 OK (Always passing) Self Preserving, Statistical 196 Reallocation Event Count 0 200 200 000000000000 OK (Always passing) Self Preserving, Event Count, Statistical 197 Current Pending Sector.. 0 200 200 000000000005 OK (Always passing) Self Preserving, Event Count, Statistical 198 Off-Line Uncorrectable.. 0 100 253 000000000000 OK (Always passing) Self Preserving, Event Count 199 Ultra ATA CRC Error Co.. 0 200 200 000000000000 OK (Always passing) Self Preserving, Event Count, Statistical 200 Write Error Rate 0 100 253 000000000000 OK (Always passing) Error-RateHealth. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ###################- 97 % (Excellent)
Performance . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . #################### 100 % (Excellent) `
Looks fine as far as the SMART data goes, then. Probably NTFS got corrupt for some reason. Reformatting will fix this temporarily, but if the drive has a habit of returning bad data, it obviously can't be trusted with important things like backups.
Agreed but to be honest, never experienced ntfs corruption so I am more leaning to the side of age and possible malfunction which could happen again. I would use that as a sign to not put critical or important data on that drive unless you have backups
Now I remember, it was giving me trouble when I wanted to remove a subparent folder of certain files and the folder couldn't be opened from gui since windows was giving me corruption errors. I got around that with multiple robocopy retries and command line, but it was a sign of serious fuck.
It was not giving me this error while already running debian, it just started yesterday.
I would try and reformat
I know nothing about HDDs, but I did that to one of my old HDDs,too, to get it to work again. Eventually it even stopped having errors 
Based on this http://askubuntu.com/questions/145902/unable-to-mount-windows-ntfs-filesystem-due-to-hibernation I'll try to run qemu, install windows, boot windows, mount the drive in the vm and shut down the vm.
"Boot into Windows and power down the system by shutting it down completely. You may then boot back into Ubuntu and the partition will mount in read-write mode automatically when you open it in Nautilus. Note that the "Shut Down" option may not be the one displayed in your start menu by default. You may need to click the button next to it to see further options."
If you corrupted your NTFS by mounting it read/write under Linux from a state that wasn't cleanly unmounted from Windows, due to hibernation rather than shutdown, then it's probably hosed now. There's a chance Windows can fix it, but I'd say if you care at all about your data, you should be making a dd clone of the hard disk before trying to rescue it.
I don't enough space or time for that. I didn't really expect this drive to die. The stupid ntfs debian error persisted after rebooting again. All other usb drives mount normally.
Never ran qemu formerly, now I'm writing a windows xp linux iso to a qcow image. QMoo. Maybe that'll work or not.
I was downloading a new debian iso and someone must have hijacked my download.
At least use qemu's -snapshot option to avoid modifying your disk for real the first time you try to let windows repair it and do it again if everything appears OK.
Actually, if I remember correctly, you can even commit changes stashed away by -snapshot using the qemu monitor.
i'M JUst installing the linux iso with cli commands. No idea about any gui tools for qemu.
Now I'm confused, I thought you wanted to run -Windows- in QEMU to fix your NTFS partition.
Anyways, how to get to the monitor, either in SDL or in curses mode is explained here:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14165158/how-to-switch-to-qemu-monitor-console-when-running-with-curses
Once in the monitor, the command is
committo write back cached snapshot changes:https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/QEMU/Monitor#commit
Of course it's windows, but on a new linux iso made by aliens. I'm trying to be a good Merican citizen with using euphemisms while not being one.
@GM2015
drive is fine but get it replaced asap when you start getting weak sectors you know it's time, it's also one of the big 5 bad errors.
any recommendations where to get 2 new disks for less than £100?
I've spent £100-£120 on this 1TB drive at argos and it was already a ripoff at the time.
Firstly avoid argos it's a huge ripoff.
and i got a few of these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2TB-3-5-Inch-SATA-WD-RE4-GP-7200RPM-64MB-Cache-Desktop-Internal-Hard-Drive-/331134588445?hash=item4d1928d61d
For portable http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Toshiba-1TB-Canvio-Basics-USB-3-0-2-5-Portable-External-Hard-Drive-Matte-Black-/331322396519?hash=item4d245a8f67
Maybe i am to paranoid but i would not trust it anymore and would replace it.
Even if the surface is clean there are other parts in a mechanical hard drive that may not work properly (controller, head, ...)
The thing is it will surely not get better so if i were you i would copy everthing while i still can and trash the disk.
If you want to make more diagnostics i recommend you to get manufacturer tools, oh and check warranty if you're lucky you might get a new one or at least a refurbished one (some hard drives has a five years warranty).
Don't power cycle it so much?
Buy a new disk. It's 3 to 4 years old already so if it's not dead yet it will be soon.
It's used in my laptop which is my only pc at home, except for the raspberry pi2, so it's actively used.
Some of these drive seem great, even if it's a "paid"/"affiliate" review:
http://www.techradar.com/news/computing-components/storage/external-hard-drive-1292181
Especially their number 1:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Seagate-Expansion-desktop-external-drive/dp/B0084LZI5Y/
I don't why but I remember people bashing seagate drives.
they are unreliable (especially the made in china ones) but 4TB is very reliable.
I have a 10 years 320GB Seagate HDD, a 8 years 160GB Maxtor HDD and a 6 years 1TB Hitachi HDD on my desktop. They all are Sata 2 and are working without one single problem...
I just plugged the drive into my cousin's windows laptop, booted the laptop, the drive worked, rebooted the laptop, the drive was writeable and turned her laptop off.
Then I plugged it back into debian after a reboot and it's now working again. No idea what caused to discover that error message I pasted above.
http://askubuntu.com/questions/290630/problem-to-enter-in-ntfs-partition-the-disk-contains-an-unclean-file-system
Use a proper file system if you are running Debian, I bet you wouldn't see issues with ext4.
Can winblows read ext4? (yes, just learned to google) I used to use this drive in my own window laptop and with helping out others with backups too if I needed to.
Stick with NTFS then, and make sure you fully "eject" or unmount the disk before removing power!
Sure boss, just not always possible when your laptop freezes or crashes into the blue mysteries of death.
I got myself this drive 1tb for £39.84 http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00KWHJY7Q with nus 5% discount. Man, I wish I used my nus discount when I bought £200-£300 worth of crap on amazon in July.