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Have people stop using WordPress for hosting?

I have used WordPress for years, first for my blogs, then I started using WordPress to create websites (dynamic, but not blog).
But it's not often I see threads about WordPress here on LET, and I'm starting to wonder if I'm really old and using this "old" technology?

If so, what do people use for websites now? What technology should I learn?

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  • mikhomikho Member, Host Rep

    Still use Wordpress. Mostly using the plugins from https://wp-types.com to really create dynamic views with custom post types.

    Thanked by 1myhken
  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran

    myhken said: I have used WordPress for years, first for my blogs, then I started using WordPress to create websites (dynamic, but not blog). But it's not often I see threads about WordPress here on LET, and I'm starting to wonder if I'm really old and using this "old" technology?

    The new hotness will always get more press than the old standby. It's just humans.

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  • launchvpslaunchvps Member, Patron Provider
    edited December 2016

    It seems like basic blogs are moving over to Ghost with the more technically minded folks, but for general purpose websites I still see Wordpress as the the platform most people gravitate towards.

  • oneilonlineoneilonline Member, Host Rep

    Wordpress is like swiss cheese with all the security holes from pluggins and what not. I've always been an advocate for writing your own code and develop your own site, don't rely on crutches.

  • "Wordpress powers 25% of the Internet"

    Or somewhere lime that says in some websites.

    https://w3techs.com/technologies/details/cm-wordpress/all/all

    And seems to be growing

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  • oneilonline said: I've always been an advocate for writing your own code and develop your own site, don't rely on crutches.

    Absolutely! Reinventing the wheel is the best way to go. :)

  • Been using WordPress for over 6 years, never been hacked. Provided you don't install every random plugin you see and keep things updated. To anyone who says wordpress has security holes is definitely new to the internet. Give me one good cms/language which is as popular as wordpress or even remotely near and I'll give you links to articles discussing their security issues. Nothing is 100% safe, neither is WordPress, nor is your shiny new CMS/language.

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  • Static websites is the way to go.

  • @yomero said:
    "Wordpress powers 25% of the Internet"

    Or somewhere lime that says in some websites.

    https://w3techs.com/technologies/details/cm-wordpress/all/all

    And seems to be growing

    Afaik, not many porn websites use wp, those numbers must be wrong.

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  • sinsin Member
    edited December 2016

    I use Wordpress for the majority of my sites. It's easy to manage and as long as you don't install a crap load of shitty plugins and practice basic security then you're good to go.

    From Wikipedia: "WordPress was used by more than 26.4% of the top 10 million websites as of April 2016. WordPress is reportedly the easiest and most popular website management or blogging system in use on the Web, supporting more than 60 million websites."

    I do plan on trying out some static generators in the future though.

  • @oneilonline said:
    Wordpress is like swiss cheese with all the security holes from pluggins and what not. I've always been an advocate for writing your own code and develop your own site, don't rely on crutches.

    Have to disagree with you.
    Wordpress has a massive community which means bugs are found quickly and get patched often so it's enough to look at the software like once per month to see if everything is okay.
    Should you code yourself you most likely have nobody checking your code for mistakes and have to constantly keep watch on bugs in the libs you use. Also not everyone knows how to code.

    Just keep the amount of plugins low and only install necessary stuff and you got a very secure platform.

  • Wow, almost 27% of the web is WordPress...so quite some few using it then. I like all the updates from them, it's shows that they take security serious. Beside some themes, Jetpack I do not use other plugins. Have no super big sites that needs all the cache plugins and other speed improvement plugins.

  • oneilonlineoneilonline Member, Host Rep

    @srvrpro said:
    Absolutely! Reinventing the wheel is the best way to go. :)

    Developing a content management system was done long before wordpress was released, so yes, wordpress is reinventing the wheel. Can't beat making it work the way you want it to the first time instead of relying on plugins to "kind of" work the way you want it to. Not to mention worrying about constant updates and security "fixes" just to get your website to "work".

  • oneilonlineoneilonline Member, Host Rep
    edited December 2016

    @Tion said:
    Have to disagree with you.
    Wordpress has a massive community which means bugs are found quickly and get patched often so it's enough to look at the software like once per month to see if everything is okay.

    Having to "patch" something often doesn't mean it's a good thing. That's also under the assumption that a "patch" or "fix" is actually resolving an issue.

    Should you code yourself you most likely have nobody checking your code for mistakes and have to constantly keep watch on bugs in the libs you use. Also not everyone knows how to code.

    There are a lot of tools out there to debug anything and everything, including log outputs. So if you are the sole coder, odds are pretty high bugs are to a minimum. Yes, not everyone knows how to code, but a lot more people entrust these third parties with their goods and security than there should be, so education should be primary.

    Just keep the amount of plugins low and only install necessary stuff and you got a very secure platform.

    Yes, if kept at a bare minimum, you shouldn't have to update "patches" and "bugs" too often ;)

  • oneilonlineoneilonline Member, Host Rep

    @srvrpro said:
    To anyone who says wordpress has security holes is definitely new to the internet. Give me one good cms/language which is as popular as wordpress or even remotely near and I'll give you links to articles discussing their security issues. Nothing is 100% safe, neither is WordPress, nor is your shiny new CMS/language.

    I've been coding for over 20+ years, and yes, wordpress has plenty security holes. HTML, CSS, PHP, Python, javascript, ajax, all of which wordpress and their plugins are written in. I'm talking code, not software like wordpress, or any other content management software "crutch" out there.

    Coding always comes out on top. You don't need a fancy degree or to take classes. Coding isn't a big fearful monster, don't get intimidated. Take the time to learn, then you can replicate the code, tweak it, and use it to serve different purposes. OP said he's used wordpress for years, I'm sure in that time he's tweaked enough to established some understanding of how things work, probably enough to start venturing into doing it on his own, free from wordpress. And in the end I'm sure he would have more pride and sense of accomplishment, which in itself is much more rewarding :)

  • @srvrpro said:
    Give me one good cms/language which is as popular as wordpress or even remotely near and I'll give you links to articles discussing their security issues.

    NOT to take one of these is the trick.

  • Wordpress till now is still the most used software in web hosting due to it's simplicity, even if it has some security holes they always get patched.
    So everyone who wishes to not develop his own CMS and keep patching it everday or whom doesn't have the manpower to do so uses WordPress.
    We have to say the truth in this one that WordPress has been very handy to many people whom have grown their businesses, blogs, galleries, portfolios with it and are still using the software.

  • I moved my personal sites to a program I wrote. Next step is to use static generator.

  • @oneilonline said:

    @srvrpro said:

    Coding always comes out on top.

    Clearly your time is worthless.

  • Wordpress is the next Apache, atleast for the Sysadmins... no matter how much you want to do away with it, you can evade it. The security really bothers me... to an extent that I always keep all wordpress installs on a separate server altogether and never mix it with mainstream app/web servers

  • williewillie Member
    edited December 2016

    Wordpress still seems to be everywhere. I've never used it myself. For my own nerdy purposes I'd use something much simpler, but I can see why people like WP's easy management and plugin world. Seems that it's monstrously slow unless you tweak it right though. A vps host was telling me about people buying enormously powerful multicore VPS or dedis to run single blogs. That just seems crazy to me.

    Has anyone heard of Dotclear 2? Gandi includes it with domain registration, it's apparently popular in EU, so I wonder how it compares with Wordpress.

  • mikhomikho Member, Host Rep

    @oneilonline said:
    Wordpress is like swiss cheese with all the security holes from pluggins and what not. I've always been an advocate for writing your own code and develop your own site, don't rely on crutches.

    people like me, writing my blog platform from scratch ... yeah, that would make the Internet safer.

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  • vimalwarevimalware Member
    edited December 2016

    Armin Ronacher(flask fame) built https://www.getlektor.com/

    Best of both worlds: bundles an admin/edit interface to static site framework(git textfile storage)

    Pros can skip the admin/cms layer

    Thanked by 1bersy
  • jiggawattjiggawatt Member
    edited December 2016

    oneilonline said: Wordpress is like swiss cheese with all the security holes from pluggins and what not. I've always been an advocate for writing your own code and develop your own site, don't rely on crutches.

    ... and creating your own billing system, your own high proof alcohol, your own abandoned-warehouse-to-lofts converted home, etc

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  • @jiggawattz said:

    oneilonline said: Wordpress is like swiss cheese with all the security holes from pluggins and what not. I've always been an advocate for writing your own code and develop your own site, don't rely on crutches.

    ... and creating your own billing system, your own high proof alcohol, your own abandoned-warehouse-to-lofts converted home, etc

    Your own world wide web and call it dark net 2

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    Everyone is using Wordpress. It's all I hear all day long, Wordpress Wordpress Wordpress ;)

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  • any good automation tool/platform/plugin to convert a Wordpress site to one of these static file CMS ?

  • what tools do you guys use to make custom pages like a static front page ??

  • I use what's best for the project. I've been using Ghost on a blog that I am currently running but, for my next project, I'll be using Wordpress because it provides a better set of tools for this endeavor.

    Thanked by 1myhken
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