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Should we ban potential deadpoolers from posting offers here?

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  • krokro Member

    These are the only threads that take off these days. LowendDrama or should I say lowendtv ;)

  • @Maunique

    Because Chicago is better connected

    Huh? Eveything goes to NYC. Especially when you are in the Empire state. Chicago is big but it can't touch NYC on connectivity.

  • NYC has better connectivity, except when there is a hurricane and the datacenters get flooded. I'd choose Chicago over NYC.

  • Some war raging over here eh?

  • LeeLee Veteran
    edited April 2013

    How about if you deadpool you are allowed back but you need to change your profile picture to a naked picture of yourself and have a dead fish on your head. That way we can easily identify you.

  • @W1V_Lee said: How about if you deadpool you are allowed back but you need to change your profile picture to a naked picture of yourself and have a dead fish on your head. That way we can eaily identify you.

    Great idea

  • @W1V_Lee said: How about if you deadpool you are allowed back but you need to change your profile picture to a naked picture of yourself and have a dead fish on your head. That way we can eaily identify you.

    Sexy.

  • no ban for me

  • I have to say this. I wear bandanas, I eat bananas, I love Antonio Banderas, I play banjo in a band, I'm scared of banshee hanging down a banyan tree trying to bang me on the head. Just, please don't ban me, cause I'm not a bandit.

  • JacobJacob Member
    edited April 2013

    @vRozenSch00n Was he the guy that did the voice over for Puss' in boots.

  • @Jacob Yep, that's him awwite :P

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @W1V_Lee said: How about if you deadpool you are allowed back but you need to change your profile picture to a naked picture of yourself and have a dead fish on your head. That way we can easily identify you.

    It would be illegal in most countries.

  • rds100rds100 Member
    edited April 2013

    @jarland said: It would be illegal in most countries.

    Yes, the animal lovers would be all over you for killing that fish :)

  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran

    @zhuanyi said: Fair enough?

    You're missing the point, which is that no one assumed when you won that 8 months later you'd still be talking about doing it at some undefined point in the future. Everyone assume that those who participated were serious and ready to rock.

    Bah...not worth discussing any more.

  • netomxnetomx Moderator, Veteran

    i think this thread became another ces't pit, isnt it @Liam ?

  • mikhomikho Member, Host Rep

    Banning people from posting offers because they might deadpool is like putting people in jail because they might steal a car or something.

  • LeeLee Veteran

    @MikHo said: Banning people from posting offers because they might deadpool is like putting people in jail because they might steal a car or something.

    Huh? This is not because they might, it's because they did and have just come back with another brand.

  • superpilesossuperpilesos Member
    edited April 2013

    @W1V_Lee said: Huh? This is not because they might, it's because they did and have just come back with another brand.

    If 'deadpoolers' are banned from posting again, they will just make it impossible for anyone to know who they were before. At the moment, if you see someone who previously failed it's obvious who they are and you can choose to avoid them, ridicule them, whatever. It's far too easy to do everything anonymously (i.e no one but law enforcement or the upstream providers / other companies used by the provider can tell who is behind the business). You can even hide yourself from upstream providers by registering with fake details and paying with an anonymous card, registering with fake details and paying with a PayPal account in the name of a business and not an individual, registering with fake details and having wire transfers made by a friend or an exchanger, etc. If people are banned from posting again if they have failed once, they can just do this, assuming that they aren't total idiots and make a mistake such as writing their previous email address in their SOA record (isn't this what happened with HostSnowy?).

  • LeeLee Veteran

    uhuh, I am not starting the discussion all over again, just pointing out it was never about banning people because the "might" deadpool.

  • mikhomikho Member, Host Rep

    Rerad the first post again, since I only answered based on the topic.
    Must have missed that the thread was about dominic. Pardon me.

  • not comfortable about officially tagging someone as potentially dead-pooler. i prefer good old bashing by public

  • I think there are still some people with hot vats of Tar still laying around. We should Put some of those to use.

  • @kandosan said: I've had friends scummed by some Pakistani and Indian providers, they asked 25USD per year only to shutdown and run with the money within 2 months.

    To be fair, I would like to point out that I'm on my second or third year of $10/year reseller webhosting (25GB/750GB, iirc) from a guy/company based out of India and I'm pretty happy with it. Works just fine for all my domains and email redirects :).

  • HalfEatenPieHalfEatenPie Veteran
    edited April 2013

    @user123 said: To be fair, I would like to point out that I'm on my second or third year of $10/year reseller webhosting (25GB/750GB, iirc) from a guy/company based out of India and I'm pretty happy with it. Works just fine for all my domains and email redirects :).

    Cheapest way: get a 30/year 2GB CVPS VPS. Pay cPanel (VPS) license at 15/month (180/year). WHMCS license at 16/month (192/year).

    Add everything up: $402.00/year (this is very basic).

    Assuming you're aiming for about 100 shared hosting/reseller hosting customers, you're going to need to get at minimum $4.02/customer (per year). Make that 50 customers and you only need $8.04/customer (per year) to break even. Assuming 50 customers (and 10/year plan) then you get 1.96 profit per customer meaning $98.00/year in profits.

    This is ignoring everything from domain names, other software licenses, etc.

    Softaculous is additional 2/month, RVSkin is additional 3/month, cheap 8 dollar domain name renewals (unless you get those promo special deals) etc.

    And this is obviously ignoring overselling of space, bandwidth, etc. (unless you're fine with giving each person like a gig of space).

  • @user123 said: second or third year of $10/year reseller webhosting

    Feature him here / PM me so that I can have some insights. Thanks

  • @HalfEatenPie There are ways to cut cost. For example CVPS has been generous to give cpanel at USD5/month. Most hosts tend to have atleast another location? If the person choses a host which offers WHMCS at $5/m as well or invest in a owned license, their monthly commitment is around USD8/m for 80GB HDD and 2GB RAM. Now cannot profit?

  • @peppr said: For example CVPS has been generous to give cpanel at USD5/month.

    Well personally I actually didn't know that. That takes everything down to:

    60/year for cPanel license (-120/year at standard rate) coming down to 282/year (assuming leased WHMCS).

    This drastically reduces it to $5.64/year per client assuming 50 clients. Assuming 5 dollars per client (being every general here) you make a 100% profit on your investments (income of 564/year before bills)

    @peppr said: Now cannot profit?

    I never said they can't profit, I just personally don't think its worth my time (personally). Now using Rage4 DNS's cPanel addon (assuming they're staying on free plans) then that takes care of DNS.

    Starting your own Reseller Hosting has never been easier!

  • user123user123 Member
    edited April 2013

    Thanks for the detailed analysis, but I have exactly one customer and he's pretty damn near impossible to please. He uses the handle "user123".

    Real life doesn't pay that well atm, but the pay will pick up sharply in about 1.5-2 years. It also keeps me busy enough that I don't have enough time to manage an online (or offline) business. The only reason I have reseller or master reseller or whatever reseller hosting is so that I can easily keep the webhosting panels for my different domains separate. The only reasons I have multiple domains are so that I have access to unlimited throwaway email accounts and don't have to give out my primary email address out as much (though, like an idiot, I still do...) and that I can make my own web/IP subdomains/redirects that are easy to remember (i.e. pie.mydomain.xxx could be good for redirecting myself to a porn site :P).

  • Oh I wasn't specifically stating that you @user123 was bad I was just stating how easy it was to start a shared hosting "company". By all means if it works for you then it works for you.

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