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Well, it's not about your ISP. It's about Aorta trying to charge for accessing their network and no one really wanting to pay for their users to be able to access the Internet.
As such you normally get pretty bad rates outside of Aorta.
Out of the upstreams that we have in our mix, and that's Level3, GTT, NTT and Cogent, only NTT seems to be not saturated on Aorta's end right now.
We tried to peer with Aorta to give their users better experience for more than a year now. They haven't responded to a single email yet.
The solution is to stop using Aorta based ISPs, that would be UPC and Virgin Media mainly, if you need a good quality internet access worldwide.
Read your contract - they do not. They 100% DO NOT sell you dedicated 100% guaranteed capacity to ANY network unless you DO NOT cross OUTSIDE of AS6830.
@clouvider You'll notice both traceroutes went via NTT in both cases, but that as an aside i've seen poor performance to other locations so I've asked chris over at colocker what he considers acceptable, even syncing between OVH/T4VPS and Colocker I often get below 50Mbit/s. (Some of that will be CPU bound as I often use syncthing and it's only a C2750 at the CL end)
They're a cheap provider and they're a bunch of nice guys so I'm not overly upset about it or anything just want to know if it's performing as expected or if they have an issue somewhere as their network performance does seem a bit all over the shop.
Edit: Forgot of course just because my outgoing route is via NTT the return may not be.
But hey, @cociu, on the plus side you now have a premium line to Liberty Global that's useless for anything else :P. Time to target UPC / Virgin Media Customers worldwide : )
Rare actually, i still maintain a Gbit in VIE for 2 customers using only transit to UPC Austria (via another UPC customer singlehomed to them).
Tng solution is to stop using Aorta based ISPs, that would be UPC and Virgin Media mainly, if you need a good quality internet access worldwide.
I don't think many routes on Virgin Media goes via Aorta/AS6830 as not seen it in a traceroute very often, but since Liberty Global bought Virgin Media a few year ago the service quality gone downhill.
They don't at present. VM at present continues all legacy peering agreements. They don't sign up to any new ones as far as I am aware, new ones go on Liberty ASN. I don't see a reason for Liberty to maintain two networks so at some point they will be merged. Liberty's peering policy already applies for all new peers intended for VM so I'd say the consolidation process is slowly starting.
Netcup
Speed is probably only good as netcup got a transit with Upc 1 x 10 GBit/s Liberty Global (LGI)
Is that one with KMS-hosting?
i can assure you i know what we have firmed, i pay 2x more as a usual for this line. also the line will be fixed until monday (confirmed by upc) . This is a 1gbps dedicated and guarantee in all over europe (where have conectivity in the last part of at least 1gbps clearly)
Something broke?
nothing ... http://ping.pe/85.186.103.239
Weird, tried it from my hetzner box and it showed no route. Local computer also couldn't find the server. Might've been temporary. Strange, nonetheless.
something from your box i think because is fully working, any way verry interesting
Same here but the strange thing is, a mtr reached the destination... on my home connection i get a "Connection refused", thats more a local error on your side i think
Well, I tried both my hetzner and my home connection at roughly the same time, both reported the server was unreachable. It's reachable now on both as well. BGP derp?
interesting ... here seems to be all ok , also is stable , recived some ddos but withowt any problem
Just wondering, contacted them one month ago and got a nice reply after two hours, where they stated not to peer for X reason and which options are possible to get a connect.
They also didn't cared that we also have => had a fiber product on a other location.
Well, we contact their official peering email, every few weeks now, no response.
Also used their peering email peering@aorta, but sadly I've experienced the same for Amazon. Writing since three months and didn't received any reply yet, while other saying, that they answer fast.
wget http://85.186.103.239/1GB.html --2016-11-20 02:19:05-- http://85.186.103.239/1GB.html Connecting to 85.186.103.239:80... failed: No route to host. root@benchmark1:/# ping 85.186.103.239 PING 85.186.103.239 (85.186.103.239) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 85.186.103.239: icmp_seq=1 ttl=53 time=71.5 ms 64 bytes from 85.186.103.239: icmp_seq=2 ttl=53 time=72.3 ms 64 bytes from 85.186.103.239: icmp_seq=3 ttl=53 time=73.0 ms 64 bytes from 85.186.103.239: icmp_seq=4 ttl=53 time=71.8 ms 64 bytes from 85.186.103.239: icmp_seq=5 ttl=53 time=74.8 ms 64 bytes from 85.186.103.239: icmp_seq=6 ttl=53 time=72.9 ms 64 bytes from 85.186.103.239: icmp_seq=7 ttl=53 time=73.4 ms 64 bytes from 85.186.103.239: icmp_seq=8 ttl=53 time=70.7 ms ^C --- 85.186.103.239 ping statistics --- 8 packets transmitted, 8 received, 0% packet loss, time 7011ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 70.709/72.572/74.812/1.224 ms root@benchmark1:/# traceroute 85.186.103.239 traceroute to 85.186.103.239 (85.186.103.239), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets 1 192.168.192.1 (192.168.192.1) 1.500 ms 2.263 ms * 2 * * * 3 * * 188-141-126-49.dynamic.upc.ie (188.141.126.49) 18.979 ms 4 ie-dub01a-ra3-ae18-0.aorta.net (84.116.238.210) 78.975 ms * * 5 * * * 6 * uk-lon01b-rd1-ae12-0.aorta.net (84.116.130.14) 87.204 ms 80.400 ms 7 ro-cj01a-rd3-ae0-0.aorta.net (84.116.131.54) 76.117 ms * * 8 ro-buh08a-ra1-vlan1797.aorta.net (84.116.186.114) 85.284 ms * * 9 * * * 10 * * * 11 * * 85.186.103.239 (85.186.103.239) 71.886 ms !XLocation: Ireland
Provider: Virgin Media (UPC/LG)
ServerAuditor
It was the best one I could find without paying - too bad JuiceSSH isn't on iOS
nmap:
^ any firewalls blocking port 80?
Yea, and i paid 10EUR/Mbit to UPC before and got not even inside the same country guaranteed. What do you pay? If it is less than 5000EUR/month for 1Gbit on 1Gbit you have nothing at all guaranteed.
They DO NOT GUARANTEE you anything plus your Romanian NOC has ZERO to say international OR ANY power to sign off such a deal (ONLY NL can do this) - all business things go to NL (always.), most NOC things go to Vienna, all other branches including CH/RO/SK are centrally managed by this ones and have only limited access (they need to escalate). VM is the exception in UK for existing things.
This would also be a VERY unusual arrangement; yes it does exist for Verisign and alike but you pay 100-500EUR/Mbit then to get a guaranteed Mbit on every single MPLS link globally of your upstream for dedicated usage, essentially a wave delivered as L2 port with built in redundancy. This is for government networks.
From a purely network perspective UPC CANNOT offer this either as your RO people have no visibility of LGIs transit in NL or outside EU or reserved capacity (RO actually has very low priority in the conglomerate) in any way. What you buy is local guaranteed an that's it; if they sold you anything else it is not legally enforceable as UPC RO/Astral was never authorized to form this deal.