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It seems AthenaLayer is now spamming their facebook feed trying to get people to move over.
Jesus people, have some class.
Francisco
A bit badly written code for silicon valley. Looks like they never validate any user input.
Fucking rude coder
How about the mystical stuff? Pentagrams and the all-seeing eye?! Wasn't Emerson a Mason?
Scary news, just goes to show that hosting your stuff with a big company does not mean you are safe!
I bet they won't exist for much longer, this is about as worse as it gets.
I'd be very surprised if this rocks them that hard. They still offer pretty decent protection and their support is top notch.
Protection is expensive to offer at high volumes and whenever there was an issue they were quick to help us and more than once they called me within 5 minutes of a ticket arriving to talk through things to speed up resolution.
Someone dropped the ball, period.
Francisco
Big company != safety. They tend to save and hire cheap unprofessional coders.
I've browsed their codebase and it smells like сode monkey.
There`s also internet now... :P
Americans perhaps? Looks to me that being a KKK leader isn't a carreer stopper in the US politics, even for Democrats. You just have to disavow and apologize and then you can become a "President pro tempore", third in line for Presidential succession.
Wow just WOW hosting a nut-job organisation like the KKK would put any company at risk i guess, very scary news
so if a group of hackers wanted to get you they can? Or this just leads down to the poorly secured setup of their infrastructure?
You'd be surprised
Especially with salaries like 10k$ monthly
For a young, single person, certainly it's not bad. For older people with family, not so great.
For that salary they could hire a dedicated office of professional developers/testers somewhere in the ukraine or russia, like name cheap does (based in LA).
Certainly. Yet, there are pros and cons in doing that, so it is not a magic pill solution for many companies. Having an outsourced remote dev team that produces on par with a local team is very challenging to do it right. Also, there is a strong preference from VCs to have local programmers in start-ups.
Staminus codebase is awful, but I think it was developed by their local US guy. Can't get how do security companies hire such unprofessional staff...
I have never heard about the KKK, but their logo looks familar.
coincidence?
I don't think so.
Talking about "conspiracy theory"
From provider perspective: Staminus is in a tremendous problem. Total destruction of company. Wondering, what they have done to the crackers in order to receive such harsh punishment...
Seems like the KKK switched to OVH.
If you had bothered to spend more than one minute reading you'd see that they only discovered the KKK site after the fact — while rumbling through Staminus stuff. So it had very little to do with them hosting that particular site.
Has Staminus's site been loading for anyone since like Friday? I haven't been able to reach their site at all.
No luck connecting from here either. Still can't believe this whole mess and how easily it could've been prevented.
Looks like @globalfrag is the newest host to start spamming the list:
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1556659&page=5&p=9655137#post9655137
Francisco
Who knew being part of a data dump opted you in for emails from @globalfrag. Must be a really loose definition.
Since they're providing us a nice address in Los Angeles, would this count as a CAN-SPAM violation? Is my understanding of the law fairly light?
https://www.ftc.gov/system/files/documents/plain-language/bus61-can-spam-act-compliance-guide-business.pdf
to additional fines. The law provides for criminal penalties – including imprisonment – for:
email to addresses made up of random letters and numbers in the hope of reaching valid ones)
I'm not sure about that, i'm sure it does violate federal laws though. I know for me it suddenly gives some validity to nexhost's claims that @globalfrags are a bunch of crooks.
Francisco
https://www.globalfrag.com/lax02_facility_sheet.pdf
Customers don't even get free drinks or snacks as advertised in the spam email. That's the most insulting thing to me, honestly
The worst thing is that hosts get customers from sending those spam emails which is why providers continue sending spam.
IANAL, but if in the US a customer database could be considered a trade secret then the Economic Espionage Act comes into play, including criminal penalties of 10 years jail and/or a $5 million fine and civil injunctive relief.
I'll take a different option: Nexhost is a braindead moron at the same time as GlobalFrag are dodgy as fuck. He whined because he was a screwup and it may as well be a total coincidence that GlobalFrag are (IMHO) untrustworthy.
Nope.
"injunctive" is an impressive-sounding word for sure.
Actually, the KKK at this point is just icing on the cake, a simple laughing matter.