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Any chance to get any Indonesian lowend VPS

I'm wondering if there's any Indonesian provider at LET could provide VPS under $5 a month for VPN usage. 1 core, 256M-512M RAM, 10GB HDD, 100M port speed would be sufficient.

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  • No. Wait for dediserve.

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  • probably no, you cant. Count me in when you have a chance. :)

  • Seriously, what for? you cant even open YouPorn. So many site blocking

  • elgselgs Member
    edited November 2015

    @rokok said:
    Seriously, what for? you cant even open YouPorn. So many site blocking

    For two purposes, one is VPN, the other one is an API network for a distributed database projects. It's still in the developing phase, so we need servers in as many locations as possible to make local user access faster. As we have not made even yet, we start with cheap VPS. We have some clients in Jakarta and Surabaya. So a local Indonesian server could also be for them. The connection from Indonesia to DO in Singapore is quite good. I'm just looking for some possibility. Thanks for asking anyway. :)

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  • Me thinking... many of Indonesian feel faster opening website hosted on Singapore rather than Indonesia ;p (except kaskus ;p)

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  • @rokok said:
    Me thinking... many of Indonesian feel faster opening website hosted on Singapore rather than Indonesia ;p (except kaskus ;p)

    If this is the case, then I think I'd just leave the Singaporean server to serve Indonesian clients before a suitable server in Indonesia is found.

  • Ignore me im a moron,

    not lowend but you can check biznetgiocloud.com

  • @rokok said:
    not lowend but you can check biznetgiocloud.com

    Thanks @rokok for the recommendation. The price is still a bit steep for me. I will wait and keep an eye. :)

  • winnervpswinnervps Member, Host Rep
    edited November 2015

    @elgs,
    You might find one. But you'll be in lots of trouble thereafter :)
    In Indonesia market, there are a "protector". So if someone offer a price drop below market price, then the provider will suffer. Gini lah: dikeroyok, dikerjain rame2 (ada hukum tidak tertulis, ada mafianya jek, bisa2 fiber cut tiap minggu tuh). Jadi tahu kan knp si ddser* blm buka2 :) hehehe. For those who understand, I've experienced this problem and can't resolved as many problems arise and more to come again and again (flooding, etc.), ant that is UUD (ujung ujungnya duit. buying a good quality transit will solve this) ;)

  • @winnervps said:
    elgs,
    You might find one. But you'll be in lots of trouble thereafter :)
    In Indonesia market, there are a "protector". So if someone offer a price drop below market price, then the provider will suffer. Gini lah: dikeroyok, dikerjain rame2 (ada hukum tidak tertulis, ada mafianya jek, bisa2 fiber cut tiap minggu tuh). Jadi tahu kan knp si ddser* blm buka2 :) hehehe. For those who understand, I've experienced this problem and can't resolved as many problems arise and more to come again and again (flooding, etc.), ant that is UUD (ujung ujungnya duit. buying a good quality transit will solve this) ;)

    Got the idea from Google translate, fiber being cut if price is too low? Is that why price in Indonesia is so high?

  • WilliamWilliam Member
    edited November 2015

    elgs said: We have some clients in Jakarta and Surabaya. So a local Indonesian server could also be for them. The connection from Indonesia to DO in Singapore is quite good. I'm just looking for some possibility. Thanks for asking anyway. :)

    It does not matter if ID or SG if you have only low traffic, latency is your least issue as the latency inside ID will be likely higher than to SG anyway - it is huge country. If you need much BW, however, a server in ID makes sense as IIX traffic is dirt cheap and contains like 90% of local ISPs (and very few SG/Int ones).

  • winnervpswinnervps Member, Host Rep

    @rokok said:
    Me thinking... many of Indonesian feel faster opening website hosted on Singapore rather than Indonesia ;p (except kaskus ;p)

    Yessss, most of the time. But i feel terrible when using Telkom, it gets 50ms and above compare to biznet or firstmedia that could get around 30.

    @elgs if you're not indonesian, good luck to you ;)

  • elgselgs Member
    edited November 2015

    @winnervps said:

    I'm not Indonesian. But I'm in Indonesia right now. Probably will stay here in Jakarta and Surabaya in the next month. We have a few clients in these two cities. Really love this country for the amazing people and food. :)

  • God, no Firstmedia. Telkom works best local, Biznet works globally.

  • elgs said: We have some clients in Jakarta and Surabaya. So a local Indonesian server could also be for them. The connection from Indonesia to DO in Singapore is quite good. I'm just looking for some possibility. Thanks for asking anyway. :)

    It does not matter if ID or SG if you have only low traffic latency is your least issue as the latency inside ID will be likely higher than to SG. If you need much BW; however, a server in ID makes sense as IIX traffic is dirt cheap and contains like 90% of ISPs.

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  • @William said:

    Thanks @William. That makes sense. Currently we don't need much BW, yet. The client has a factory and an office building. The server should serve less than 100 people. The client explicitly requires all communication between office, factory and the cloud app servers must go through VPN.

  • Well, some IIX vps provider will give you unmetered bandwidth, but with a vps as small as 256mb + 20gb disk, they will ask you at least $10 / Rp 125.000

    If you can pay with IDR / Rupiah / Bank transfer, it would be cheaper. Try Connectindo / Drupadi

  • winnervpswinnervps Member, Host Rep
    edited November 2015

    @William, it's not dirt cheap, it is free :D free unmetered/limitless as much as the port can eat. (Both IIX and OpenIXP). Even with 1U colo in DC (but not for residential or broadband access across the city), only in DC

    @elgs are all of them (factory, office and cloud app servers) residing in Jakarta/Indonesia?

  • winnervps said: it's not dirt cheap, it is free :D free unmetered/limitless as much as the port can eat

    Well, yes, however the location(s) are pretty centralised so you also need to calculate the price of fiber to your own DC in.

  • you can try whplus.com, there is idr 75k ($6) vps, but their support was slow.

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  • winnervps said: @elgs, You might find one. But you'll be in lots of trouble thereafter :) In Indonesia market, there are a "protector". So if someone offer a price drop below market price, then the provider will suffer. Gini lah: dikeroyok, dikerjain rame2 (ada hukum tidak tertulis, ada mafianya jek, bisa2 fiber cut tiap minggu tuh). Jadi tahu kan knp si ddser* blm buka2 :) hehehe. For those who understand, I've experienced this problem and can't resolved as many problems arise and more to come again and again (flooding, etc.), ant that is UUD (ujung ujungnya duit. buying a good quality transit will solve this) ;)

    If not gara-gara gini, Delimiter juga sebenernya interested untuk invest di Indonesia. @Markturner

  • winnervpswinnervps Member, Host Rep
    edited November 2015

    @vRozenSch00n said:
    If not gara-gara gini, Delimiter juga sebenernya interested untuk invest di Indonesia. Markturner

    Hahaha, iya gara2 gini doank ;) tapi reseh banget. I guess friends in DWH know this best. Saya rasa, foreigners akan dicegat masuk kesini, coba aja dhe klo gak percaya (mereka harus cari partner lokal). OP can find more options through DWH. But let me rephrase 'quality cost less' and the unofficial statement clearly stated: you (providers) can't offer any low than the average market price


    OOT - Yahoo, google (the last one is Amazon group) cancelled their investment to build a DC here. The land areas are acquired by Equinix (under the brand name PT. DCI that continue to build the first Indonesia Tier III+ DC) in Cibitung, Bekasi. They offered quite cheap racks there, if anyone interested, but 'no local peering' (means that transit to ID, will be routed to SG and back to ID again via Equinix :D) :D (padahal ada local loop terdekat di Bekasi punya Telkom, tapi ya kan tahu sendiri, kenapa gak bisa, kenapa begitu)

    So it depends on the OP, if he want quality (i bet he must because of the critical business process that will run on the system), he have to go with 'quality'. Well can be colo his servers, or if in-house DC is occupied at the moment, I might have a chance for him to get good FO, for local loop peering from office to the DC (if it is in Jakarta area, but it might cost more than colo, I bet).

  • winnervps said: Yahoo, google (the last one is Amazon group) cancelled their investment to build a DC here.

    That's what I denger terakhir.

    winnervps said: (padahal ada local loop terdekat di Bekasi punya Telkom, tapi ya kan tahu sendiri, kenapa gak bisa, kenapa begitu)

    Still a long way to go deh :P kalo gitu caranya. Nggak bisa forward-forward dong negriku :P terlalu banyak government follow mix deh kayaknya :P

  • @vRozenSch00n said:
    Still a long way to go deh :P kalo gitu caranya. Nggak bisa forward-forward dong negriku :P terlalu banyak government follow mix deh kayaknya :P

    "Indonesia melek internet"

  • DalComp said: "Indonesia melek internet"

    It's still merem melek bro :P

  • vRozenSch00n said: If not gara-gara gini, Delimiter juga sebenernya interested untuk invest di Indonesia. @Markturner

    My Bahasa (?) isn't as good as it once was ;) But I get the gist of it.

    I'd love to see us expand into countries like Indonesia, we're not too far away geographically speaking - Hong Kong, Singapore, Mumbai, Seoul but unfortunately none of this is even close to LET pricing.

    The question comes down to demand, is there a high enough demand over 5-10 years to justify the build? We don't need to turn a profit it on short term, the business case could easily stretch 5-10 years but the concerns would have, having been involved with deployments in Africa and Middle East - stability both politically and economically, access to local skilled/reliable workforce and ability to get the relevant permits/licenses without having to keep relying on 'wasta'.

    You and I talked about this a year or so ago, personally I think the market is massive but it would need work to build a strong business case and definitely an aggressive team on the ground locally.

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  • IMO, 5 usd per month on Indonesia is impossible (for now). thats why I prefer SG location for my projects. AFAIK, some Indonesian high traffic website, such traveloka also use SG (Amazon EC).

    Equinix tier III+ dc.. is it possible? we only have one electricity supplier, PLN. III+ dc is required at least 2 electricity supplier, right?

  • @MarkTurner said:
    You and I talked about this a year or so ago, personally I think the market is massive but it would need work to build a strong business case and definitely an aggressive team on the ground locally.

    ..
    The question comes down to demand, is there a high enough demand over 5-10 years to justify the build?

    Couldn't agree more!

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  • fazar said: IMO, 5 usd per month on Indonesia is impossible (for now).

    No, you're wrong, daxa has been offer cheap VPS since forever. Few time they increase/decrease their price without changing the spec. 4-5 years ago I purchase their vps for 50 rbu. Ask their support.

    MarkTurner said: The question comes down to demand, is there a high enough demand over 5-10 years to justify the build?

    It will, few years ago I'm happy because wowrack enter Indonesia market, but after look at their pricing I'm a bit disappointed because their pricing similiar with current market. Then virpus.id come, but dream never come true :)

    [OOT] Here (Indonesia) office/home user had faster upload than server in datacenter. I can download/upload up to 100mbps/50 mbps from office while using my indonesia server only able to push 5 mbps max and shared to maybe thousand of people. lol

  • @rokok said:
    Me thinking... many of Indonesian feel faster opening website hosted on Singapore rather than Indonesia ;p (except kaskus ;p)

    I concur, what Pak @rokok says.

    I have vps an Indonesian VPS, and the network and the performance is kinda so so. So, yeah, SG like DO is a better option if you are looking for a lowend one. But, if you are on enterprise level, the conversation would be quite different.

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