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Why some idiots abuse of cheap services ?

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  • Because it makes perfect sense for the spammer, if you think about it. Sign up cheap, party, next.

  • @cociu said:
    in the next offer i promise i will put in the title only NO DMCA AND OFFSHORE nothing else !

    that's not the same as including NO SPAM NO DDOS

    anyway, the issue is these guys do it to all providers, so whatever you put in the offer is just ignored, IMO

  • cociu said: This is not for me is consulted to our lawyer

    Your lawyer is telling you bullshit - EUCD is an EU law, which HAS to be implemented into local law or your country has to leave the EU, EUCD is also now 10y+ old and IS implemented in local law in all memberstates INCLUDING Romania.

    Voxility was once similar to you, being big hosting warez sites and similar shit, then they got raided and basically buttfucked by your police (lots of HW confiscated, high fine, jail time for the owner (laid out as probation, but this ain't guaranteed) - The same will happen to you. The question is just when.

  • First please read our internet law but read it good not in hunrry . I dont live from hosting for the moment so i am not interested to atract problems if i dont win but what i can tell i am located in Romania wich internet laws is .............. poor quality ?

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran

    Nomad said: People here are talking out of concern for you.

    Yeah, trust me, I know the laws here and to which extent you can slip through the net, but what you do will land you in big trouble. Nobody here wants you to suffer, nobody feels threatened by your operation, also your customers wish you all the best, it is hard to get a cheap VPS in romania today.

  • Do you guys know how many invalid and pure nonsense dmcas come in every day?

  • Thancks for all advice guys , some of you is care about me but i "prefere to go to jail for LET users " LOL

  • aaaaaa and for all "DMCA" guys please next time pay the tiket when you see a movie in the internet be corecctly and pay !

  • until now i have no interest to accept btc but i promise in 1 week i will accept btc too to provide more "privacy" for all what want NO DMCA :)

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran
    edited August 2015

    lazyt said: Do you guys know how many invalid and pure nonsense dmcas come in every day?

    Yah, I have a lot of laughs especially at indian/japanese ones, however, if the customer is infringing on some IP rights, this is an issue as we have a clause no illegal stuff which covers it, no matter if the "DMCA" is valid or not. So, it depends if you want shady or plain criminal people in your network, if you advertise "shady stuff allowed here", it will come, if you apply the ToS/AUP, they will know there is no room for maneuver and they will find other such naive people.

  • @Maounique we have the most easy TOS :

    no spam , no child porn , no abuse

  • cociucociu Member
    edited August 2015

    and next month i will offer Moldavia too , but never mind i was open this tread thincking maybe an idiot is offerind his positions ... i meen of spamers but ... no lucky today

  • LeeLee Veteran

    cociu said: no spam , no child porn , no abuse

    Not working though is it.

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran

    I am sorry for you, you are full of good intentions, but you will be trampled on.

  • ... I smell jealousy in the thread ...

    Nah, it couldn't be, could it? :D

  • @cociu said:
    until now i have no interest to accept btc but i promise in 1 week i will accept btc too to

    Sweet, you finally got what makes LET run.
    The more spammers, CPers, abusers and less honest clients for you, the more popcorn for LET.

  • cociu said: some of you is care about me but i "prefere to go to jail for LET users " LOL

    how old are you?

    and no one wants you to go to jail but people are saying YOU WILL if you continue this illegal stuff.

  • @Maounique let see the good point , i comback in romania , i like this country , i speach verry bad english (finnaly the let people accept me ) and the next week i will go to Mamaia :)

  • cociucociu Member
    edited August 2015

    @TarZZ92 a middle guy :) fresh divorcied so if you want to married i am the GUY ! ... was a joke

  • cociu said: First please read our internet law but read it good not in hunrry

    I know your laws very well and talked with lawyers in Bucharest for my ex workplace as we established a RO location.

    Fact is, and if your lawyer tells you anything different he plain lies - i have the original physical mail from your government - that EUCD IS valid in Romania. If you ignore EUCD you WILL have to pay a fine NO LESS than 100k RON or face up to ~2 years jail. DMCA is invalid but as the DMCA contains informations about possibly illegal content, so you HAVE knowledge once you read it, you can get prosecuted for this as well.

    Again, Voxility did what you do on a much larger scale and got raided (even more than once) - RDS will also not allow you to continue your game with them forever either, especially as it is now NOT Romanian owned anymore.

    Your Moldova locations does also not matter unless you and your company move there - as RO company RO laws apply there as well, there is a clause for that (same clause used to prosecute RO citizen child abusers in i.e. Thailand and technically also for using drugs in a foreign country like NL).

  • @William can you tell me what is 100k RON in Eur ? less 22 000 eur so i dont thinck this is ruin of my live

  • FrecyboyFrecyboy Member
    edited August 2015

    But it still sucks... Or did you got too much money? :D

  • i wont disappear no worries :)

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  • so all the problem is dmca and copyright .... but i am asking about idiots who do spam ... not dmca or copyright ... so still answer

  • around 22kEUR according to XE exchange rate - This is also in ADDITION to at LEAST probation and in worst case IN ADDITION TO JAIL. The fine does not remove the jail requirement, but as first time offender you'll likely get go with probation, but if you then don't stop you WILL go to jail (which is why Voxility and others now don't allow any warez anymore).

    This is in your best interest - Sure, you can make some money with it now, but in the end it will bite you in the ass - I talk from experience.

  • cociucociu Member
    edited August 2015

    William said: I talk from experience.

    and is good the jail ? i mean have coffe ?

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  • deadbeefdeadbeef Member
    edited August 2015

    @William

    The whole point in Romania et al isn't that there are no laws. The point is in the enforcement.

    Certainly if one is in the gray area, he has more chances of getting hit than someone who is playing it safe. The difference is that the chances of something going wrong in places like Romania for natives is really really slim, unless you seriously piss other natives.

    It's very hard to portrait how the Balkans work but it can be summed up more or less like this: If you are native and not a nobody, it's very hard something bad to happen to you. If you are native and a nobody, nobody will bother with you anyway. The obvious extreme cases aside of course (CP etc).

  • cociucociu Member
    edited August 2015

    ok , i will go to my "terorist customers" now , :) but still no answer of my question

  • WilliamWilliam Member
    edited August 2015

    cociu said: and is good the jail ? i mean have coffe ?

    Yes, Austrian jail is excellent - Romanian is probably not good. Would not recommend.

    deadbeef said: The whole point in Romania et al isn't that there are no laws. The point is in the enforcement.

    This changed - Else Voxility and XServers would not have got problems, both are owned by Romanians.

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  • @William when is the time for dmca jail can i opt for Austrian jail ?

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