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I want know how i can i know the people is not using my vpn for crime

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  • WilliamWilliam Member

    Free or not - You still have customer data (Connection IPs) and are (depending where you live) bound to store them - In court this could be the ONLY way to get out without sentencing, if i would have had the inbound IP of the user that uploaded CP over my exit i would have had ZERO issues.

    Running VPN, especially free/donation based, is simply not worth the risk.

  • you could watch flow with ntop or even prtg

  • william i can understand what u say i have log and ip but if some thing happen i don't have money to hire a lawyer for myself as know i m student and pakistan law don't allow vpn

  • nitro85nitro85 Member
    edited May 2015

    @tariqthaqeeq said:
    william i can understand what u say i have log and ip but if some thing happen i don't have money to hire a lawyer for myself as know i m student and pakistan law don't allow vpn

    Cash convert money to an unverified paypal account

    Or use bitcoin

  • WilliamWilliam Member

    He could go to jail for simply running a VPN provider in Pakistan - I would not risk that, even if he would sell anonymous/via BTC.

  • i don't want to go to jail

  • IMO if you do not know what your clients will do, then don't.

    List out the Terms of Service, Privacy Policy, then Acceptable Usage Policy;
    then if you receive some letters complaining, check the log then ban that customer. Done.

    Don't think it's too HARD for everything, but please be careful to every single BUSINESS step you took/will take. As @William said, if you host VPN in Pakistan with illegal things undergoing in your VPN, you're a dead man.

  • nitro85nitro85 Member
    edited May 2015

    @William said:
    He could go to jail for simply running a VPN provider in Pakistan - I would not risk that, even if he would sell anonymous/via BTC.

    Not very unexpectable from a governement that blocks Youtube...

    But if it's non profitable, there's no cash in

  • its not just youtube it many other some time facebook also close wordpress

  • some time they even closed wiki

  • Moreover, people do use EC2 DO Linode Vultr and lots and lots and lots of VPSes, dedibox, VPN(your flavor) to do illegal thing, including but not limit to SPAMMING, DDOS, and some seedbox. Do those provider shutdown their biz just because of theeeeeeese things?

    Think twice before your every move, and be well-prepared for your business.
    It's simple to start off things, but not to last them for long.

  • WilliamWilliam Member

    i don't want to go to jail

    Yea, i would not want to go to Pakistani jail either, sounds like a thorough bad experience...

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  • nitro85nitro85 Member
    edited May 2015

    @lifehome said:
    Moreover, people do use EC2 DO Linode Vultr and lots and lots and lots of VPSes, dedibox, VPN(your flavor) to do illegal thing, including but not limit to SPAMMING, DDOS, and some seedbox. Do those provider shutdown their biz just because of theeeeeeese things?

    Think twice before your every move, and be well-prepared for your business.
    It's simple to start off things, but not to last them for long.

    No, they give your details and IP logs to the autorities

    You are on the end of the chain not the provider

  • WilliamWilliam Member

    Do those provider shutdown their biz just because of theeeeeeese things?

    Depends on how much you piss them off - Seeding even public torrents is negligible risk for the provider, they can pretty much ignore the DMCA and won't be sued (too much work/costs for the copyright owner), Spam nearly the same - illegal pornography or hacking of government/large companies however is bound to get you massive issues.

  • @nitro85 said:
    No, they give your details and IP logs to the autoritiesauthorities

    Uhm, I'm saying BUSINESS, not private firms or individuals running those tunnels.
    A company should have legal and tech team to deal with these situation, but in this case, seems not?

    I mean, at least they got lawyer and here we got... nothing? #lol

  • Oh, not to mention I ran like dozen VPN service in private? Just for trusted Chinese users to "climb over the wall", for websites like Youtube and Facebook, also maybe some seeding, but as long as I keep an eye on the logs, everything goes fine with some nullroute mitm for severe issue on outbound traffing. #dirtysmile

    PS: By trusted I mean face to face verification, or friends-only.
    PS2: We got a "famous" provider "well-known" in Hong Kong and China, they change their server often, wanna guess why?

  • William i never visit jail and i have no experience , but my 1 friend visited jail and say this is best place in Pakistan to live

  • i don't want any crime charges on me buz i want to go canada live there

  • @tariqthaqeeq said:
    William i never visit jail and i have no experience , but my 1 friend visited jail and say this is best place in Pakistan to live

    Please be my guest to do so, and come back, I'll let mods here have a pinned post for you at the "Review" category.

  • i don't want live in a country where u don't have freedom off speech

  • rds100rds100 Member

    tariqthaqeeq said: i don't want live in a country where u don't have freedom off speech

    I am not aware of any country that has true freedom of speech.

  • @lifehome thank you but don't need to do it

  • @rds100 said:
    I am not aware of any country that has true freedom of speech.

    You got the point. You got the point, mate. ;)

  • nitro85nitro85 Member

    Dude just make a free blog written in your language, recommending great proxy browser plugins like Hola and others and free VPN's, make tutorials and you're good to go

  • thank you for idea nitro85

  • @lifehome i find canada have lot off freedom of speech compare to Pakistan where u can not were cloth what u like

  • well then thank you every one for ur kind replies

  • @tariqthaqeeq said:
    lifehome i find canada have lot off freedom of speech compare to Pakistan where u can not were cloth what u like

    We here in Hong Kong are living... quite "okay". Having some politic issues recently, but everything, except the skyrocketing price of everything, everything is fine and good.

    So you should start to earn money, then migrate to somewhere else.

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  • ya i m working on these think

  • hong kong is very good place to live but very expansive

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