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Does Encryption Not Works In Pakistan

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  • hosthatchhosthatch Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    fametel said: what you are saying is nothing but a bunch of conspiracy theories.

    Which part exactly? Is PTCL not making money off this blockage? Is IP transit not 40-45 times more expensive in Pakistan compared to US? Is Dailymotion not artificially slowed down? Are 3G/4G telcos not suffering because of this?

  • @Abdullah said:
    Which part exactly? Is PTCL not making money off this blockage? Is IP transit not 40-45 times more expensive in Pakistan compared to US? Is Dailymotion not artificially slowed down? Are 3G/4G telcos not suffering because of this?

    Yes they are but I was referring to the blockage of websites based on the decision of courts. PTCL got nothing to do with those decisions as it cannot dictate courts. PTCL itself is doing bad stuff like you mentioned on its own end but the blockage of websites in not because of PTCL.

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran

    fametel said: blasphemous

    That is what i am talking about. Religion is making laws and some court is upholding them. This means that the dictatorship is censoring the media based on a dogma instead of practical arguments and social needs. Rape and murder of girls in India and Pakistan can be attributed to religious taboos too, from cast separation and disconsideration of human beings as inferior to arbitrary blocking of some sites because some content is deemed as "blasphemous" by some clergy which should not rule on their parishioners, let alone all the cults and confessions in a given country. Theocracy is a form of dictatorship, legends and myths from thousands of years ago create the conditions for massacres of innocent people and abolishing civil rights. For example, the "jewish state" is using such legends as a backing for policy of land grabbing and ethnic cleansing because god himself gave them the land of others, so, nothing can go against god, therefore atrocities are necessary to put god's will into practice. This is a theocracy where human lives do not matter, a dictatorship of the powerful against the powerless like any other dictatorship. Same in many arab countries, people cannot discuss some subjects because the clergy "knows better". the ultimate truth. Same with the holocaust "denial", where history is no longer a problem for society and historians, but a judicial and legislative issue.

  • vpslegendvpslegend Member
    edited April 2015

    @Maounique said:
    That is what i am talking about. Religion is making laws and some court is upholding them. This means that the dictatorship is censoring the media based on a dogma instead of practical arguments and social needs. Rape and murder of girls in India and Pakistan can be attributed to religious taboos too, from cast separation and disconsideration of human beings as inferior to arbitrary blocking of some sites because some content is deemed as "blasphemous" by some clergy which should not rule on their parishioners, let alone all the cults and confessions in a given country. Theocracy is a form of dictatorship, legends and myths from thousands of years ago create the conditions for massacres of innocent people and abolishing civil rights. For example, the "jewish state" is using such legends as a backing for policy of land grabbing and ethnic cleansing because god himself gave them the land of others, so, nothing can go against god, therefore atrocities are necessary to put god's will into practice. This is a theocracy where human lives do not matter, a dictatorship of the powerful against the powerless like any other dictatorship. Same in many arab countries, people cannot discuss some subjects because the clergy "knows better". the ultimate truth. Same with the holocaust "denial", where history is no longer a problem for society and historians, but a judicial and legislative issue.

    All what muslims can do when something they consider blasphemous emerges is protest. An ethnic-religious group of 14 million controls whole of world's media, economy & politics always supports everything anti-islamic & paints every muslim as a terrorist but when you say even a single word against holocaust your life will become so tough that many would end up suicide. Those who draw Muhammad's cartoons as a part of freedom of expression but cannot do the same for holocaust are the world's biggest hypocrites. If you are a supporter of free speech, first work & raise voice to revoke all laws which prohibit saying things against holocaust. Once this is done, we can then proceed talking about others.

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  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran
    edited April 2015

    vpslegend said: first work & raise voice to revoke all laws which prohibit saying things against anything.

    There, fixed it for you.
    No law should regulate free speech, if it does, there is no free speech anymore. You cannot have free speech within some limits, if it is limited, then it is not free anymore.

  • vpslegendvpslegend Member
    edited April 2015

    @Maounique said:
    No law should regulate free speech, if it does, there is no free speech anymore. You cannot have free speech within some limits, if it is limited, then it is not free anymore.

    Couldn't agree more though my reason for saying holocaust first was due to the reason that it is much bigger of a taboo topic than everything else.

  • 4n0nx4n0nx Member

    vpslegend said: If you are a supporter of free speech, first work & raise voice to revoke all laws which prohibit saying things against holoc****. Once this is done, we can then proceed talking about others.

    Islamic fascism in 3..2..1..

  • 8bit8bit Member

    :D

  • Its A humble request to all my brothers.

    i was not came here to listen the debates of islamisation and blasphemy..

    please stop here..

    and read my post and answer me about my security related questions

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  • Yes, encryption is not working in Pakistan. This is due to AES and Blowfish algorithms having been designed in a way that makes it easy to disable encryption based on geolocation. There is a way around, though. It's called Bit-Enabler. I think the current version is 2015.3. It works by re-enabling bit 17, which is turned off by geo-enabled encryption.
    A word of advice: Be careful as most countries disabling encryption also prohibit the use of re-enabling software!

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  • so its means the software companies which are giving you higher encryption like SSL/TLS and no middle man promised.its not true ??

    how can pakistan turned the encryption level down..when skype imo viber are built in encryption 128 bit or 256 k encryption securities in thier apps.they have their own security softwares and the level of encryptions.how can pakistan could change their 256 k encryption in to a lower level encryption like AES blow fish

  • @burraqkhan

    The above was just joking.

    But frankly, someone knowing next to nothing about encryption and networking almost certainly will end up being spied on or fu--ed otherwise. Actually, many are. To name just one reason: Security (and privacy and ...) aren't cool features one can just enable or buy as an add-on. They require at least some basic understanding/learning, care, and personal engagement.

  • haha blowfish was not design to block the encyption.it was it self a low level encryption software :)... easy to decrypt

  • Ok.. I skimmed a bit but I have a question.

    Can someone name a country that does not monitor it's own population communications?

    All this conversation make it sound like some countries are "the good guys" and others the "the bad guys". While the reality seems to be that every single country/government monitors their population regardless of the political system.

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  • paulof said: Can someone name a country that does not monitor it's own population communications?

    De jure Germany - the German BND (Bundesnachrichtendienst) is not allowed to spy on Germans, this has of course happened but the cases are far spread out and are either US requests or foreign nationals living in Germany (see BNC Gesetz & Spiegel Online reports).

    De facto poor countries with far spread telecommunication outlets, failed states as well - Somalia has now a "large" (compared to the entire countries size) mobile network which is 100% unregulated by the "government" - Of course, living in SO is probably not the best idea either...

  • @William said:

    De facto poor countries with far spread telecommunication outlets, failed states as well - Somalia has now a "large" (compared to the entire countries size) mobile network which is 100% unregulated by the "government" - Of course, living in SO is probably not the best idea either...

    Why did you even mentioned Germany if you end up saying they do it after all?

    I agree that small severely under developed countries don't so it, but its not because they don't want to, but because they don't have the infra to do it.

    BTW any EU country will be a bad example, all of them coordinate with the NSA. So, if the NSA spies on everyone else besides the US (lets forget the scandall for a while) and Germany BDN spies on everyone else except Germans but then everyone coordinates together. What does that mean? Yep you got it

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran
    edited April 2015

    paulof said: Why did you even mentioned Germany if you end up saying they do it after all?

    There is one thing to spy on some individual in some rare cases and entirely another to monitor everything and record everything you can use to blackmail judges, police officers, prosecutors, government officials and legislators to build a police state and stop the dangerous ideas such as democracy and human rights which, we all know, will lead to our civilization being eaten by terrorists, so, we have to apply their methods to prove we are different.

    The discussion about monitoring individuals which should be possible if the law gives the guarantees it will not be abused and the laws are respected, is legitimate. With a warrant which respects the Constitution and the law, is supervised by an independent judge, not a blackmailed, bought or instated by the secret services, taking care no other data is actually copied, stored or read, no proof is admissible if the evidence was obtained without respecting the law and constitution, then, yeah, we can have a legitimate need for access to private communications.

    unfortunately, it is not the case, this is done with repressive purposes or in order to force legislation and changes towards dictatorship, because anonymity and privacy are the basis of the true free speech, without it, there can never be debate and informed choice.

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