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Yes, jabber.
You mean instant messaging on your phone?
His, I am now home, but before I also used the phone.
I consider that a serious racism. You don't read news about banks getting hacked because they are trying to cover up their mess. I know a lot of banks which got hacked. I have friends who develop and maintain the online banking division of some of the bigshots in U.S. like Citi bank and they do get hacked Indeed. There is always a hacker waiting for you commit a mistake. You cannot blindly believe in something and expect it to work fool proof. And for your kind information, indian call centers run American Business. Lot of people who work there are poor graduates who studied engineering and science and couldn't get a job due to the rising unemployment. The client base they do have is provided by the marketing team of the company that hired them to spam away. Blaming Indian Call centers are the "only" people sharing their customer details is total bullshit. Google does it on a day to day basis.. Why don't you go furious on them and ask them not to crawl into any of your sites?
Everybody has a different definition of privacy.
No need to go furious, there is a very well documented and easy method to ask them nicely to not crawl your sites, and they will comply - it's called robots.txt
Not sure why google got dragged in this though.
Bringing in google was not really required. I agree.I apologize for that . I am furious indeed. Because the answer to most of the discussions (online in general) seem to be "Let's blame India . . ." That's what got me...
Nothing more.
If I'm paying with paypal, Unless you intend to send me a Birthday Card, why you want my Name, Address and Birthday
Especially as there is no delivery of a product or service.
To pay by credit card, ok, because the whole Credit Card system is weak.
But to pay by paypal, the user must authorize it in paypal.
Why would you need to pay with paypal if there is no delivery of a product or service.
When you purchase a low end VPS, there is no physical delivery, only granting access to a VPS.
Why anyone want Name, Address, DOB, Mother Maiden name, etc..
When receiving that access to your RENTED vps you are in a contract with the provider, thats why they need your information. Do you expec that a car rental service would grant you service if they knew you provided fake information?
You can do it.
But then times should be a problem (with eg. domains), you have no guarantee that this can be solved.
I don't consider that racism, as majority of UK companies are moved theirl call centers to India and for a reason - very cheap labor. It's up to companies who are using cheap labor abroad you can call them racists!
Some facts:
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cardsloans/article-2116681/Indian-centres-selling-YOUR-credit-card-details-medical-records-just-2p.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2116649/Indian-centres-selling-YOUR-credit-card-details-medical-records-just-2p.html
http://www.scmagazineuk.com/indian-call-centre-staff-selling-confidential-personal-data/article/232900/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7953401.stm
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3727561/Brits-bank-data-sold-for-pennies-by-Indian-call-centres.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4121934.stm
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/03/20/call_centre_credit_card_fraud/
Ugh, right, because fraudsters only exist in India. Most carders and people breaking iinto accounts are from Russia/kazahstan/ukraine, etc. Also, many from US. India has 1/5 of the world population, there is a guarantee there are some crooks among them.
Besides, many countries today are becoming racist. UK is even racist against other europeans, not to mention Indians.
Im not disputing any law.
But yes, why do i have to give my entire personal information to anyone?
If i buy a piece of bread i pay and thats it, at most they have my bankaccount number /OR/ creditcard number. There is no need for any further information.
Same goes for buy for example powertools, but why does someone over the internet just needs to fill in his entire personal information to anyone, just because i want to buy something. Atleast when buying something at a shop i see the person who sells it to me. I get a receipt which i can use to claim warranty. And ONLY if i need the warranty i need to fill in aditional information. So why does any webhost need my real name, adres, phonenumber, email adres etc.. they sell me a package, i pay thats it. If i do something that is against tos terminate me, if i do something illegal, then when the authority's come give them my payment info, ip adres and that should be enough. No need for all that additional information.
Cause if i used fraudulent payment information to start with, i in hell wouldn't use my real name.
You dont ship me anything, then you dont need my adres.
You want my money, then my payment details should be enough.
And yes i totally agree with @Maounique
If the person in the supermarket doesn't know my name (and why whould they) why should some random webhost have it.
And i'm much closer to my supermarket lady then any webhost.
Also im in favor of using a different name, email, (you can add additional email to paypal) payment info and providing real adres but fake adres data (the adres exists etc..)
We all think giving away this info is normal, but it isn't. As long as the data is stored online (offline also but less likely) it can be hacked. Call me stupid but im not ready to be the next victim of identity theft
@mikho as long as my creditcard is good they dont care. Personal experience. Most require a copy of your drivers license, which is reasonable as you need a valid license to drive, but i always black out my license id, and certain key parts, such as but not limited to my personalservicenumber. (in usa called socialsecuritynumber)
No.
Yes, and that person can ask your ID to check if the card you use is indeed yours. That cannot work over the internet, there are people asking for IDs, but those are easy to fake online, you dont even need to be a pro, just not overly stupid.
There are now laws that require providers to prove location of their customers for taxation purposes. You cannot tell the taxman good ole Abe Lincoln from Trinidad and Tobago uses a romanian IP to order and pays with bitcoin, but is surely legit because he says so, and everyone should trust Abe Lincoln.
It is always better to have your real info when it comes to domains.
If you dont it can be counted as ilegal and your domain ownership might be revoqued.
Not reading all 4 pages but based on the OP.
No it is not OK to use fake details, no one however can stop you from doing that, at the same time though if the details are discovered to be fake do not act all surprised and upset if your service is then removed without refund especially if you agreed to provide real and accurate information prior to payment.
That might be the case in the usa, where they use creditcards like there bankcards. (and where an old carbon copy with signature is still enough)
But when using my bankcard, i have never been asked to verify my identity. Same with creditcard btw, but i havent got that one as long..
As far as domains go, i use my real name or corperate identity. Depending on the purpose.
You are comparing web hosting to buy a loaf of bread, which is in terms correct but at the same time nothing alike.
When buying web hosting you are entering a contract to rent space/bandwidth etc for a limited time, like when you rent a movie at the store or rent a car.
Both the video store snd car rental office want your personal information so that they would know who uses their products. Same thing goes for VPS/shared hosting providers.
You dont have to enter a pin number?