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Not professional in what way? Certainly the way they are announcing it but it's their company and their terms.
Actually, while the way they announced it is clearly not professional, they are heading towards a business market, it seems.
From what i read between the lines, things went like this:
1. They opened to the le market and orders came flowing;
2. They designed special product such as waveride;
3. This meant a lot of pstaffers needed to keep up with the tickets and abuse, and a lot of attacks, headaches with police etc;
4. After brave attempts to keep the boat on track in the heavy storms, with the competition increasing and high costs of work in AT, there was no choice, in the end, either sell the large number of customers and seemingly booming business, or to steer away from the storm;
5. The first plan to offload the costly and thin margin of the business failed, so, a general cleanup was the only choice.
LE market is fun and can be tamed if you are patient enough and take a lot of necessary decisions, but it is not for everyone. You need either a core business which will keep you afloat no matter what, or be extremely careful and very swift in acting when problems arise. More important, never bite more than what you can chew. I have to keep putting brakes on Uncle to expand the services, we cannot manage much more than this.
@Lee The announcement and leaving customers high and dry all of a sudden. They clearly allowed torrenting in some locations openly before. I'm sure there are customers that signed up for that, etc. Changing business models and services on the fly seems unprofessional to me. Know what you're capable of and not from the beginning. They should refund if people signed up for services possible in former TOS and everything is fine in trade ethics. But, it still is unprofessional. Don't think of the word for something it is not. This is what it is.
A company deciding for their own business/operational/financial reasons is in no way unprofessional. It happens every day.
Changing without adequate notice or not refunding services which are now of no use to the client is unprofessional.
maybe if you did read my whole comment you wouldn't have to ask, i explained my own reasoning in front of the by-you quoted text. i might have made some grammar errors that caused possible confusion but to be honest, it looked pretty solid to me.
It's 5 days. Did you get money back?
@Chuck Got mine back yeah.
So people were voting with their feet, huh?
And this is BS:
I mean, yeah, maybe, but what would police have against licensed and legal porn? That was clearly a religious stance, not a police issue.
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In some countries it is really illegal to distribute porn, any kind of porn, even what you call "legal porn". But not in Austria as far as i know.
Exactly, I mean, this is not Saudi Arabia or the Vatican,
Yeah. And they say now that it is OK on a VPS or a dedicated servers, but forbidden on shared hosting. It probably makes some sense. Some countries block IPs with porn websites, and in a shared hosting with shared IPs this might result in the websites of non-porn customers being blocked.
Wow a bunch of few dollars per month customers all gather on one network, trash it and the folks who generally contribute to trashing are justifying it on here.
Your "legal" torrent will kill a VPS node. You're "paying" for that under $7/mo service BUT your service is impacting 10 other customers paying under $7/mo. 100% understandable that you're thrown off the network to keep 10 other customers who don't cause I/O spikes or any issues happy.
...what? How so? Even at full Gbit it's only around 100MB/s IO, which notably is 1/6th of the usual EDIS benchmarks on HDD and not even 1/20th at the SSD plans which certainly do not kill anything at all.
No. It is 100MB/s random IO, that makes a very huge difference, even on SSDs and alike.
Err, what? Since when random io on a ssd makes such a difference?
What is not clear to me is how EDIS will respond to DMCA after the TOS update?
Let's say you run a private VPN on a dedicated server in Austria, and one of the 10 users download a file that result in EDIS recieving a DMCA notice. DMCA does not apply in Austria, so it should be ignored.
But It would not suprise me if the new response is to send a SWAT team to your home.
@DediHigh it should be, but EDIS could count it as "normal abuse report".
Ignoring a DMCA should never be misinterpreted as the provider being willing to ignore what someone is telling them you are doing.
Yes, you are right, EDIS is an international law enforcement agency.
They will probably let you know to fix the problem, as any reasonable provider will do.
They can process it as a normal abuse notice, and probably they will. DMCA not being applicable in Europe doesn't make uploading copyrighted stuff legal.
Yes, we receive "DMCA" from India, some even include threats, but, while we do tell the sender this is not US and should rephrase according to EU law, if the links to bollywood "movies" check out, we do suspend.
US or EU, copyright infringement, is still a crime. If someone wishes to be no longer, should act to change the laws, not hide in a VPS and create issues for the provider.
Says who? Certainly not the law. In EU it is criminal ONLY IF a specific condition is established, otherwise it's a civil offence. But I guess that doesn't matter, we should label everything criminal and be done with it, right?
Criminal: against the law, sorry, English is not my first language.
I read the entire TOS and I keep finding things like this, which are completely dependent on a person's personal values/interpretation.
Example: take the quote above... They basically can terminate you for whatever reason they come up with and say "It's not in good taste".
That iceland location is pretty much useless now. This TOS defeats all the reasons to host in iceland.