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Questions to people who live in China (VPS/VPN)
1) I get why Chinese users want to use VPN (to escape GFW). However what I do not understand is - why use a USA-based VPN (or VPS)? Packet loss between mainland China and USA is quite crazy during the daytime, however China-HK or China-Singapore is quite good from what we can see. So the question is, why not use a Singapore or HK-based VPN instead of USA-based one? (Let's imagine for a moment that cost is the same as in the USA)
2) Is there something special about internet connectivity in Shanghai? Looks like the most packetloss is happening on routes to/from Shanghai.
3) What is common between a VPS and a knife?
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Don't live in China but the first thing that comes into my mind is the ability to hurt someone.
throws VPS
Ow!
lol i suppose you tried google translator
from what i understand it roughly translates to currency
also why US over HK/SG? I suppose No1 reason is cost.. and in terms of GFW cant be very sure about CN-HK or CN-SG routes
you should also consider the price, especially when you need high bandwidth
Hey,I living in China.
HK and Singapore is toooooooooooo expecsive, $5+/m .
In USA , i can got $5/y.
He might have meant blade
What if we take cost out of the equation, is there any other reason to prefer USA over Singapore/HK?
sniff sniff i smell an it7 expansion
If you're mostly visiting USA-based websites, it may be not worth it to first send the traffic in the other direction to Singapore, and only then to the US.
Well, most China-SG (and CN-HK) routes are quite good, as well as SG-US and HK-US (yet direct CN-US = crap). So it kind of makes sense to do it via SG/HK, doesn't it? Latency will increase for sure, but packetloss should be much better.
the international bandwidth of HK is too small and too expensive
the routes from china mainland to SG are mostly like transit from JP, some from KR, so I'd rather select JP/KR, but it's still face the price issue
People use knife to order vps from you...
HK speed too low. I am a Chinese.
SG is... kind of expensive, though I have a bandwagonhost and a krypt SG.
SHHHhhh don't tell anyone okay, we are actually spying the USA.
Not sure about HK, but in SG for some foreign invested companies like someLayer, at times the route can go CN-US-SG-US, free world tour for the packets I'd say.
As for the "wrongly" translated "knife", it means "US dollar".
Let's imagine for a moment that cost is the same as in the USA.
The SAME AS
Let's imagine for a moment that you will send me a million dollor.
china-hk works well when they have peer/traffic with mainland china, if not you will be end up with edis Hong kong, take a tour to us and then back.
Singapore kinda sucks, I tried a few times, it is almost as bad as going usa. Not to mention most of the time your destination is USA.
My isp seem to route most of the foreign traffic via Beijing, the rule is somewhat relaxed if your destination is Hong Kong. Problem with HK is as most mentioned, high price, low bandwidth. I have tried no less then 5 low end providers, all have their own problem(oversold, disk almost does not respond, and command seem to have 5 second iowait time) because most of them are simply resellers, and better looking one will charge an arm + leg(vr).
North america route are sometimes ok, but it's ymmv. I am armed with 3-4 different US west provider(because they are cheap) + linode japan because they usually have different result, you can have one taking a huge hit tonight but works properly tomorrow.
Chinese often call USD 'knife'.
@belinik How can I thank you, say, 10 times?
Why? Just curious...
The pronounciation for dollar in English is similar to knife in Chinese
The answer is : China mountain east find blue shit
Knife = "dao" in pinyin, Lol now I get it. That's weird.
You should say, China or HK only.
OMG ...
I believe it actually mean "damage" as in "How's the damage" like how much does it cost.
Most of destination websites are hosted in US, not HK or SG.
Dollar speaks like dao（刀：knife）in chinese
Netflix.
Cost. This seems to be very important for most Chinese customers and many times, the only considered factor. There are many $5/year VPS offers in the US, but not in Hong Kong
I know some Chinese users prefer US zone for iTune, Amazon and Hulu
Shanghai is the hub of eastern China connected to Japan and US cross-ocean cable, most traffic jam happen there.