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XD...sorry about that guys...I was a bit on the edge since I can't get it to work properly on this server/template...the Edit button is now noted ;-)
EDIT: After Anthony looked at it he decided to put the image into the Beta section (since it's has some quircks)...so I'm running Deb 6 Standard now...
I really liked the minimal image, hope Fran will figure out whats wrong (since it has potential)
EDIT2: Postfix won't even start once rebooted on Debian 6 Standard...f*** this I'm getting a KVM on Monday...
postfix works just fine on debian, believe me. There is something specific to your installation that makes it to stop working.
No it doesn't...I even tried this:
Anyway I'm hoping to catch a KVM on Monday...OpenVZ seems to have a lot of hickups with newer distros and kernel changes...
We got 2 nodes coming up for Monday hopefully, just waiting on Matt to confirm he can rack it tonight. If not, it'll be Tuesday.
Francisco
Can I just "upgrade" my OpenVZ plan (which is due 01/08 anyway, one year already passed) to KVM...or do I have to participate in the "hunt"? ;-)
Ticket
Probably the hunt but KVM's sell somewhat slower. The 128's will move fast, 256's somewhat fast.
Francisco
THX I will open a ticket, then we will see what can be done...
Anthony has someone elses ticket as well about their apache not starting up so it's quite possible vsysinit is being a bit derpy.
I'll be spending some time tomorrow/later tonight seeing if I can figure it out
Francisco
I filled a ticket about the switch to KVM...seems like the logical step since it's more isolated than OpenVZ. Anyway I had a talk with Anthony yesterday about my problem over the ticket system (thats why he moved Deb 6 Min to BETA)...hope u guys can fix it...
EDIT: P.S. If you do figure it out (the vsysinit thng) please let us know here!
have you tried to remove manually the init.d symlinks, and reintall postfix ?
You mean do this:
rm /etc/init.d/postfix
apt-get --reinstall install posfix
That seems like the same thing as doing apt-get remove --purge postfix (se post #5), which I did before (even checked if it's gone from /etc/init.d)...nothing helped so far...
well... did you try to make another service to restart postfix? =P
I think postfix starts, just not at boot time.
Fran
As Fran said...that's the problem. Let us know if you figure it out...
may be a dependency of postfix starts later and that's why it dies?
How would I test it...the only error I get in the log is:
May 31 20:17:35 MyServer postfix[1611]: fatal: the postfix command must not run as a set-uid process
chmod u-s /path/to/postfix(hint)@nabo just tried it...no change, same error...it's probably a OVZ thing as Fran said (another guy has the same issue with Apache)...let's see what Fran figures out...
@fran any news on this issue?
Not sure why you think it's an OVZ specific issue as opposed to an "lcoo's specific Deb 6 OVZ instance" specific issue. I've been running postfix on Deb on OVZ of varying resources, on various hosts, for at least 3 years without issue.
Look I have done it as described (reinstall OS and the next command was apt-get install postfix)...maybe it worked when you used the template and everything was 'installed' on top of the old kernel (and is now working fine on top faked .32)...if you have the free time (and spare VPS)...do a clean reinstall to Deb6 and install postfix...if it works after that, then only we can say it's an 'Icoo specific issue'. I need this to work FOR work...so I wouldn't request help unless I know I did everything by the book (like on so many other systems I have setup) till now...
BTW I have run Ubuntu 10.04 on this system for a year now...no problems...when I switched to 12.04 (or Debian 6, hoping it works there) the problems started...
@lcoo - i've not had enough time to spend on fiddling with the template. I've been commissioned by the staff to get our ARIN paper work in place so i'll be busy with that for most of the afternoon. When I'm done this I'll hop on the template though
Francisco
@Fran thx...now thats a pro!
Hi @lcoo,
On debian6 x86 both apache2 & postfix boot w/o any additional changes. I'm about to test 64bit and see if it's maybe something in there.
All I did was apt-get install apache2 postfix
did a 'reboot' and it's all started:
32bit
UID PID PPID C STIME TTY TIME CMD
root 1 0 0 22:49 ? 00:00:00 init [2]
root 1284 1 0 22:49 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/syslogd
root 1294 1 0 22:49 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start
www-data 1299 1294 0 22:49 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start
www-data 1302 1294 0 22:49 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start
www-data 1304 1294 0 22:49 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start
root 1372 1 0 22:49 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/cron
root 1455 1 0 22:49 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/postfix/master
postfix 1460 1455 0 22:49 ? 00:00:00 qmgr -l -t fifo -u
postfix 1461 1455 0 22:49 ? 00:00:00 pickup -l -t fifo -u -c
root 1463 1 0 22:49 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/sshd
root 1471 1 0 22:49 ? 00:00:00 vzctl: pts/0
root 1472 1471 0 22:49 pts/0 00:00:00 -bash
root 1476 1472 0 22:49 pts/0 00:00:00 ps -ef
64bit
UID PID PPID C STIME TTY TIME CMD
root 1 0 0 09:54 ? 00:00:00 init [2]
root 1289 1 0 09:54 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/syslogd
root 1299 1 0 09:54 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start
www-data 1305 1299 0 09:54 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start
www-data 1307 1299 0 09:54 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start
www-data 1310 1299 0 09:54 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start
root 1377 1 0 09:54 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/cron
root 1460 1 0 09:54 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/postfix/master
postfix 1465 1460 0 09:54 ? 00:00:00 qmgr -l -t fifo -u
postfix 1466 1460 0 09:54 ? 00:00:00 pickup -l -t fifo -u -c
root 1468 1 0 09:54 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/sshd
root 1479 1 0 09:55 ? 00:00:00 vzctl: pts/0
root 1480 1479 0 09:55 pts/0 00:00:00 -bash
root 1484 1480 0 09:55 pts/0 00:00:00 ps -ef
Francisco
Hmm Fran could you then log into my node and see if there is something specific to it...I have it running (fresh install, only root account), with postfix installed (installed everything exactly like you) and I am always getting that
Jun 5 06:18:51 VPS postfix[1567]: fatal: the postfix command must not run as a set-uid process
error message in the log. What should I put in the ticket so u know what system this is about (my node is node15)?
One more thing: When I tried to run update/upgrade the system told me that Debian switched to a dependency based boot system now...maybe that's screwing it up? Did u run a upgrade on ur test box (before or after installing postfix)?
EDIT: Just tried a new fresh install without upgrading at first...postfix still wont start...so it's not a upgrade problem...I'm getting tired :-(
Did you upgrade to wheezy?
If so, wheezy is derpy on OVZ.
I'm running debian 6 on here and it's unlikely they'd backport a major init change into the stable branch
Fran
No...I just did an apt-get update and apt-get upgrade once I logged into the freshly installed box (and it updated a few packages, and then the message came up)...but it's still Squeeze...but as I said...I tried it without upgrading...just install OS, then apt-get install postfix as root...and it won't work...could you check if it's something specific to my node (or move me to another one)...I know this is getting kinda boring...but I am honestly trying everything by the book (I have done it many times on other servers)...never seen something like it before...
Sure
PM me the ticket ID again and i'll handle it in the morning.
I'll fiddle with things a bit more on my end as well to see if I can trigger it.
Francisco
FYI,
I did an apt-get upgrade without issues as well :S
It updated initscripts/sysv-init without issue. I'll for sure check into your node to make sure your .conf is ok.
Francisco