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Getting a big dedicated server on friday to sell vps any business advice please
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Getting a big dedicated server on friday to sell vps any business advice please

sz1hostingsz1hosting Member
edited May 2014 in Providers

Will have by next week 3 dedicated servers with a total of around 60 gig+ ram combined (eu) locations and ip's
If any nice people or friendly providers have any tips please let me know inbox me please : )
Please do not reply with mean or rude comments as some people here can be quite distasteful & blunt in there reply's though if you must go ahead lol!
The servers will be on a part paid part trial as a special agreement with me and the data centers directly (not hosts) i have contacted so i can not reveal who they are presently.
EDIT: this post is more about advice on the marketing and business side of selling vps not technical : )

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  • ivanhivanh Member
    edited May 2014

    Not trying to be mean or rude, it's just a little strange that you're asking for VPS business advice on LET, considering this forum predominantly consist of VPS buyers.

    It's similar to opening an computer store, then asking your customers advice on hardware.

    I'll be very hesitant to rent a VPS from you considering your lack of knowledge (purely judging from your post history and nothing else).

    My advice, is to undertake a smaller project - Sell shared hosting perhaps?

    Best of luck kido.

  • ehabehab Member

    define targets, market, tools/panels/ virtualizations, licences , policies, payment methods, customer SUPPORT, abuse handling etc..

    Maybe choose an already existing provider or collaborate/join venture with IT/Finance specialist whom are looking for expansion in eu that can save time, otherwise i would use the trial with a set of personals for trials and tests. i think this is a good experience. best wishes form my side.

    Thanked by 1sz1hosting
  • The forum has a very big amount of sellers too @ivanh i already know how to sell vps i sell already and i have been selling shared hosting for 2 years now, also free hosting, i know enough to run a business but getting advice from people who have been doing this for years (selling vps servers) can give me some good advice and would help me be a better provider. . I do not think you are trying to be mean or rude though selling vps servers is not hard it is very easy infact. The hard bit is knowing how to run a business effectively and be a good host. I would be fine without any advice but i do not know everything ^_^

  • sz1hostingsz1hosting Member
    edited May 2014

    @ehab Thanks : )

  • BoxodeBoxode Member

    Constructive critisim only.

    1. Why are you using BoxBilling? WHMCS is industry standard for this line of work.
    2. Your main site needs an overhaul, I suggest going to themeforest and picking out a nice theme.
    3. Your advertising your social network website on your shared hosting website.
    4. Your live chat support is broken.
    5. Your main site is loading 1.8MB of data through 50 requests. This can be improved and worked on. Did you know 40% + of potential users will leave after the first 2 seconds? Click here.

    Before you purchased those nodes, I suggest you:

    1. Ask yourself, if you were a client and went to visit your site, would you purchase from it? (what sort of factors would you take into account?)
    2. Deploy OpenVZ & SolusVM on VMWare and play around with it until you learn the ropes.
    3. Work out a terms of service, acceptable usage policy & abuse handling system, also might want to build on anti-abuse scripts.
    4. Watch a SEO video or two and work on SEO on your site.

    Goodluck.

  • NekkiNekki Veteran

    @sz1hosting Mate, you've been advised by several people to have these conversations in private. Several of the hosts on here are very generous with their time in terms of helping out other hosts, so I'd strongly suggest having a chat with them privately.

    In my experience, it never goes well for the hosts that do their 'learning' in public.

  • VirtovoVirtovo Member

    Still available via PM if you need advice.

    Thanked by 1sz1hosting
  • nerouxneroux Member

    viCommunications said: Why are you using BoxBilling? WHMCS is industry standard for this line of work.

    I do not see anything wrong with this. As long as the required functionality is there its not necessary to follow the currently hyped product.

    viCommunications said: Your main site is loading 1.8MB of data through 50 requests. This can be improved and worked on. Did you know 40% + of potential users will leave after the first 2 seconds?

    I agree that this is overall slightly too much and especially the image part could do with some optimisation. However 1.7 MB is somewhat the average size these days and unless a visitor is on a slow connection should not be too much of a problem.

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  • Thanks guys : ) appreciate the feed back a lot

  • @viCommunications my main site is hostingandvps.com : ) though sz1hosting.com is a main site but the main site is hostingandvps.com, ty for the feed back it has given me more insight.

  • VirtovoVirtovo Member

    viCommunications said: Why are you using BoxBilling? WHMCS is industry standard for this line of work.

    It's sad to see that WHMCS is the industry standard. It's got a very poor reputation and security history.

    Thanked by 2sz1hosting perennate
  • jhjh Member

    @sz1hosting said:
    viCommunications my main site is hostingandvps.com : ) though sz1hosting.com is a main site but the main site is hostingandvps.com, ty for the feed back it has given me more insight.

    What's the main site?

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  • jhadley said: What's the main site?

    hostingandvps.com : )

  • VPNVPN Member

    @viCommunications said:
    4. Watch a SEO video or two and work on SEO on your site.

    Goodluck.

  • wychwych Member
    edited May 2014

    @OkieDoke said:
    SEO

    o rly?

    Thanked by 1sz1hosting
  • sz1hostingsz1hosting Member
    edited May 2014

    hmm seo will shock a few people on here now lol, i am very very good at seo, i am number 1 worldwide for many sites and search terms page1 of google eg: (free cloud hosting)

    sfcircle.com

    and many more on page 1 on other sites i have too : )

  • zionvpszionvps Member

    seo will not work at start due to the immense amount of websites using same keywords, topic and content, since google will prefer the older, more established ones on first page. If you spam your links everywhere se's will just ban you. At first it is more practical to advertise / get clients from other means, like offering in various websites, purchasing advertisements and such.

  • wychwych Member

    Stop making posts like this and PM the people who said they would offer insights and talks.

    Thanked by 2sz1hosting Nekki
  • Your most welcome hope it helps i am sure it will some v good info there ^_^

  • wych said: Stop making posts like this and PM the people who said they would offer insights and talks.

    Ok will do noted and good advice : )

  • RalliasRallias Member

    viCommunications said: Why are you using BoxBilling? WHMCS is industry standard for this line of work.

    You sure know a lot about industry standards.

    viCommunications said: Your main site is loading 1.8MB of data through 50 requests. This can be improved and worked on. Did you know 40% + of potential users will leave after the first 2 seconds? Click here.

    God... that sounds like a marketing schtick gone wrong.

    viCommunications said: Ask yourself, if you were a client and went to visit your site, would you purchase from it? (what sort of factors would you take into account?)

    This. So much this. In addition to this, define your fraud handling policies very well.

    viCommunications said: Deploy OpenVZ & SolusVM on VMWare and play around with it until you learn the ropes.

    Might I ask why VMWare and not a simpler solution such as VirtualBox?

    viCommunications said: Watch a SEO video or two and work on SEO on your site.

    To be honest, as a VPS provider, SEO is nearly completely irrelevant. The only way to really succeed as a VPS provider is to advertise by word of mouth or similar ways.

    I've got one piece of advice separate from any I've seen in this thread.

    Keep calm.

    As a provider, you don't want to be seen as a bitchy child that nobody wants to touch with a 10 foot pole.

    Thanked by 2sz1hosting Mark_R
  • Rallias said: I've got one piece of advice separate from any I've seen in this thread.

    Keep calm.
    Very nice! ^_^ wise words, SEO is irrelevant in most ways at it not something that happens over night but as you said advertising is the best : )

  • BoxodeBoxode Member

    Rallias said: Might I ask why VMWare and not a simpler solution such as VirtualBox?

    I've found a number of issues with VirtualBox & Linux. VirtualBox is fine and dandy for Windows, but for Linux I've found it to have various issues.

    Rallias said: To be honest, as a VPS provider, SEO is nearly completely irrelevant. The only way to really succeed as a VPS provider is to advertise by word of mouth or similar ways.

    SEO is a crucial and well overlooked factor that can potentially make or break a business imho. Word of mouth only goes so far.

    Rallias said: As a provider, you don't want to be seen as a bitchy child that nobody wants to touch with a 10 foot pole.

    :)

  • @sz1hosting where is your company located? UK?

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  • Don't forget to monitor everything... your DNS server, your IPs for RBLs, etc.

    Thanked by 1sz1hosting
  • isy44h112 said: where is your company located? UK?

    Locations UK & USA right now expanding very soon : )

  • RalliasRallias Member

    viCommunications said: SEO is a crucial and well overlooked factor that can potentially make or break a business imho. Word of mouth only goes so far.

    Ok. I'm a VPS company. My customers are going to search VPS in google. What are they going to find? gasp They're going to find dreamhost, digital ocean. Maybe they even search cheap VPS. They're going to find a few blogs. What about minecraft vps? There's demonvps and a few blog posts.

    My point is, the only thing SEO's going to get you is ripoffreport not being front page material when they search your brand. There's no point. Plus, most SEO tactics these days will NOT get you anywhere NEAR the front page.

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  • hmm i will work on a vps keyword not even tried yet as Rallias said it is all about advertising 1st seo is a long process and a lot of work it happens naturally after a few months or even a year though it can be speed-ed up with hard work and a serious amount of promotion ^_^ i have never once used email lists i hate those.

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