Zaphosting now charging to use lifetime servers

loay · November 1

@User59128 said: Has anyone posted yabs for it?

Basic System Information:
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Uptime     : 0 days, 1 hours, 54 minutes
Processor  : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2680 v4 @ 2.40GHz
CPU cores  : 4 @ 2397.222 MHz
AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
RAM        : 1.8 GiB
Swap       : 2.0 GiB
Disk       : 24.5 GiB
Distro     : Debian GNU/Linux 13 (trixie)
Kernel     : 6.12.113+deb13-amd64
VM Type    : KVM
IPv4/IPv6  : ✔ Online / ❌ Offline

IPv4 Network Information:
---------------------------------
ISP        : ZAP-Hosting GmbH
ASN        : AS206996 ZAP-Hosting GmbH
Host       : ZAP-Hosting GmbH \u0026 Co. KG
Location   : Münster, North Rhine-Westphalia (NW)
Country    : Germany

fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/sda1):
---------------------------------
Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
Read       | 68.03 MB/s   (16.6k) | 451.67 MB/s   (6.8k)
Write      | 68.18 MB/s   (16.6k) | 454.05 MB/s   (6.9k)
Total      | 136.21 MB/s  (33.2k) | 905.72 MB/s  (13.8k)
           |                      |
Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
Read       | 706.72 MB/s   (1.3k) | 708.34 MB/s    (675)
Write      | 744.27 MB/s   (1.4k) | 755.51 MB/s    (720)
Total      | 1.45 GB/s     (2.7k) | 1.46 GB/s     (1.3k)

iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
---------------------------------
Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping
-----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----
Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 979 Mbits/sec   | 1.00 Gbits/sec  | 9.86 ms
Eranium         | Amsterdam, NL (100G)      | 1.01 Gbits/sec  | 1.00 Gbits/sec  | 3.50 ms
Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 222 Mbits/sec   | 951
907 Mbits/sec
Mbits/sec | 90.6 ms
Leaseweb        | Singapore, SG (10G)       | busy            | 69.8 Mbits/sec  | 164 ms
Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 306 Mbits/sec   | 345 Mbits/sec   | 140 ms
Leaseweb        | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 449 Mbits/sec   | 948 Mbits/sec   | 80.2 ms
Edgoo           | Sao Paulo, BR (1G)        | busy            | busy            | 189 ms

Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:
---------------------------------
Test            | Value
                |
Single Core     | 918
Multi Core      | 2451
Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/19421385

YABS completed in 14 min 36 sec

NotFoundException · November 1

@User59128 said:

@NotFoundException said:

@Mainfrezzer said:
Hello I'm old, I would like a tldr of what both is. Fanks

zap-hosting offers lifetime server that you only pay for once (high initial price) and then need to open the product in panel every 3-4 months to keep it.

They now switch to a new control panel where you get backups for your servers, don't need to open the product to keep it and also a AI that can interact with the controls instead of you doing it yourself. If you want that, you need to pay a monthly fee, up to 16€/m depending on how many lifetime servers you have.

@User59128 said:
Has anyone bought one and tested it? I'm curious if anyone has had a positive or negative experience with the lifetime VPS plan.

Yes, I have a bunch and there is also a thread on LES with a few people having a bunch too. It is very stable, support answers between 5-15 minutes, if the AI auto answer isn't good enough, which is most of the time good enough. They somehow got it right. They also patch vulnerabilities very fast, for example their PHP version on all webhosting offers were patched in, I think, 30 minutes or so.

Has anyone posted yabs for it?

This is one of mine with a few apps on it running in parallel

# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
#              Yet-Another-Bench-Script              #
#                     v2026-10-31                    #
# https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #

Sun Nov  1 08:48:48 PM CET 2026

Basic System Information:
---------------------------------
Uptime     : 8 days, 5 hours, 59 minutes
Processor  : AMD EPYC 7763 64-Core Processor
CPU cores  : 12 @ 2450.000 MHz
AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
RAM        : 62.8 GiB
Swap       : 0.0 KiB
Disk       : 393.6 GiB
Distro     : Debian GNU/Linux 13 (trixie)
Kernel     : 6.12.113+deb13-amd64
VM Type    : KVM
IPv4/IPv6  : ✔ Online / ❌ Offline

IPv4 Network Information:
---------------------------------
ISP        : ZAP-Hosting GmbH
ASN        : AS206996 ZAP-Hosting GmbH
Host       : ZAP-Hosting GmbH \u0026 Co. KG
Location   : Münster, North Rhine-Westphalia (NW)
Country    : Germany

fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/sda1):
---------------------------------
Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
Read       | 102.38 MB/s  (24.9k) | 859.48 MB/s  (13.1k)
Write      | 102.65 MB/s  (25.0k) | 864.01 MB/s  (13.1k)
Total      | 205.04 MB/s  (50.0k) | 1.72 GB/s    (26.2k)
           |                      |
Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
Read       | 1.80 GB/s     (3.4k) | 1.32 GB/s     (1.2k)
Write      | 1.89 GB/s     (3.6k) | 1.41 GB/s     (1.3k)
Total      | 3.69 GB/s     (7.0k) | 2.74 GB/s     (2.6k)

iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
---------------------------------
Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping
-----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----
Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 986 Mbits/sec   | 998 Mbits/sec   | 9.74 ms
Eranium         | Amsterdam, NL (100G)      | 1.01 Gbits/sec  | 1.00 Gbits/sec  | 3.65 ms
Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 327 Mbits/sec   | 409 Mbits/sec   | 91.4 ms
Leaseweb        | Singapore, SG (10G)       | 182 Mbits/sec   | 730 Mbits/sec   | 157 ms
Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 366 Mbits/sec   | 529 Mbits/sec   | 142 ms
Leaseweb        | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 506 Mbits/sec   | 896 Mbits/sec   | 79.8 ms
Edgoo           | Sao Paulo, BR (1G)        | busy            | busy            | 209 ms

Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:
---------------------------------
Test            | Value
                |
Single Core     | 1173
Multi Core      | 7251
Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/19421322

YABS completed in 11 min 18 sec

OpaqueRegistrant · November 1

@NotFoundException said:
No, it is not required, as explained in the post you literally linked

The post literally says if you don't pay monthly then your server will be locked.

LEBUserJoe · November 1

@NotFoundException said:

@User59128 said:

@NotFoundException said:

@Mainfrezzer said:
Hello I'm old, I would like a tldr of what both is. Fanks

zap-hosting offers lifetime server that you only pay for once (high initial price) and then need to open the product in panel every 3-4 months to keep it.

They now switch to a new control panel where you get backups for your servers, don't need to open the product to keep it and also a AI that can interact with the controls instead of you doing it yourself. If you want that, you need to pay a monthly fee, up to 16€/m depending on how many lifetime servers you have.

@User59128 said:
Has anyone bought one and tested it? I'm curious if anyone has had a positive or negative experience with the lifetime VPS plan.

Yes, I have a bunch and there is also a thread on LES with a few people having a bunch too. It is very stable, support answers between 5-15 minutes, if the AI auto answer isn't good enough, which is most of the time good enough. They somehow got it right. They also patch vulnerabilities very fast, for example their PHP version on all webhosting offers were patched in, I think, 30 minutes or so.

Has anyone posted yabs for it?

This is one of mine with a few apps on it running in parallel
# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
#              Yet-Another-Bench-Script              #
#                     v2026-10-31                    #
# https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #

Sun Nov  1 08:48:48 PM CET 2026

Basic System Information:
---------------------------------
Uptime     : 8 days, 5 hours, 59 minutes
Processor  : AMD EPYC 7763 64-Core Processor
CPU cores  : 12 @ 2450.000 MHz
AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
RAM        : 62.8 GiB
Swap       : 0.0 KiB
Disk       : 393.6 GiB
Distro     : Debian GNU/Linux 13 (trixie)
Kernel     : 6.12.113+deb13-amd64
VM Type    : KVM
IPv4/IPv6  : ✔ Online / ❌ Offline

IPv4 Network Information:
---------------------------------
ISP        : ZAP-Hosting GmbH
ASN        : AS206996 ZAP-Hosting GmbH
Host       : ZAP-Hosting GmbH \u0026 Co. KG
Location   : Münster, North Rhine-Westphalia (NW)
Country    : Germany

fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/sda1):
---------------------------------
Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
Read       | 102.38 MB/s  (24.9k) | 859.48 MB/s  (13.1k)
Write      | 102.65 MB/s  (25.0k) | 864.01 MB/s  (13.1k)
Total      | 205.04 MB/s  (50.0k) | 1.72 GB/s    (26.2k)
           |                      |
Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
Read       | 1.80 GB/s     (3.4k) | 1.32 GB/s     (1.2k)
Write      | 1.89 GB/s     (3.6k) | 1.41 GB/s     (1.3k)
Total      | 3.69 GB/s     (7.0k) | 2.74 GB/s     (2.6k)

iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
---------------------------------
Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping
-----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----
Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 986 Mbits/sec   | 998 Mbits/sec   | 9.74 ms
Eranium         | Amsterdam, NL (100G)      | 1.01 Gbits/sec  | 1.00 Gbits/sec  | 3.65 ms
Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 327 Mbits/sec   | 409 Mbits/sec   | 91.4 ms
Leaseweb        | Singapore, SG (10G)       | 182 Mbits/sec   | 730 Mbits/sec   | 157 ms
Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 366 Mbits/sec   | 529 Mbits/sec   | 142 ms
Leaseweb        | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 506 Mbits/sec   | 896 Mbits/sec   | 79.8 ms
Edgoo           | Sao Paulo, BR (1G)        | busy            | busy            | 209 ms

Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:
---------------------------------
Test            | Value
                |
Single Core     | 1173
Multi Core      | 7251
Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/19421322

YABS completed in 11 min 18 sec

Now I see why u so eager to defend that's either one hell of a deal, or a large downpayment for it.

Sad it won't be for a life-time enjoy while u have access.

NotFoundException · November 1

@LEBUserJoe said:
@NotFoundException said:

@User59128 said:

@NotFoundException said:

@Mainfrezzer said:
Hello I'm old, I would like a tldr of what both is. Fanks

zap-hosting offers lifetime server that you only pay for once (high initial price) and then need to open the product in panel every 3-4 months to keep it.

They now switch to a new control panel where you get backups for your servers, don't need to open the product to keep it and also a AI that can interact with the controls instead of you doing it yourself. If you want that, you need to pay a monthly fee, up to 16€/m depending on how many lifetime servers you have.

@User59128 said:
Has anyone bought one and tested it? I'm curious if anyone has had a positive or negative experience with the lifetime VPS plan.

Yes, I have a bunch and there is also a thread on LES with a few people having a bunch too. It is very stable, support answers between 5-15 minutes, if the AI auto answer isn't good enough, which is most of the time good enough. They somehow got it right. They also patch vulnerabilities very fast, for example their PHP version on all webhosting offers were patched in, I think, 30 minutes or so.

Has anyone posted yabs for it?

This is one of mine with a few apps on it running in parallel
# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
#              Yet-Another-Bench-Script              #
#                     v2026-10-31                    #
# https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #

Sun Nov  1 08:48:48 PM CET 2026

Basic System Information:
---------------------------------
Uptime     : 8 days, 5 hours, 59 minutes
Processor  : AMD EPYC 7763 64-Core Processor
CPU cores  : 12 @ 2450.000 MHz
AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
RAM        : 62.8 GiB
Swap       : 0.0 KiB
Disk       : 393.6 GiB
Distro     : Debian GNU/Linux 13 (trixie)
Kernel     : 6.12.113+deb13-amd64
VM Type    : KVM
IPv4/IPv6  : ✔ Online / ❌ Offline

IPv4 Network Information:
---------------------------------
ISP        : ZAP-Hosting GmbH
ASN        : AS206996 ZAP-Hosting GmbH
Host       : ZAP-Hosting GmbH \u0026 Co. KG
Location   : Münster, North Rhine-Westphalia (NW)
Country    : Germany

fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/sda1):
---------------------------------
Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
Read       | 102.38 MB/s  (24.9k) | 859.48 MB/s  (13.1k)
Write      | 102.65 MB/s  (25.0k) | 864.01 MB/s  (13.1k)
Total      | 205.04 MB/s  (50.0k) | 1.72 GB/s    (26.2k)
           |                      |
Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
Read       | 1.80 GB/s     (3.4k) | 1.32 GB/s     (1.2k)
Write      | 1.89 GB/s     (3.6k) | 1.41 GB/s     (1.3k)
Total      | 3.69 GB/s     (7.0k) | 2.74 GB/s     (2.6k)

iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
---------------------------------
Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping
-----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----
Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 986 Mbits/sec   | 998 Mbits/sec   | 9.74 ms
Eranium         | Amsterdam, NL (100G)      | 1.01 Gbits/sec  | 1.00 Gbits/sec  | 3.65 ms
Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 327 Mbits/sec   | 409 Mbits/sec   | 91.4 ms
Leaseweb        | Singapore, SG (10G)       | 182 Mbits/sec   | 730 Mbits/sec   | 157 ms
Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 366 Mbits/sec   | 529 Mbits/sec   | 142 ms
Leaseweb        | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 506 Mbits/sec   | 896 Mbits/sec   | 79.8 ms
Edgoo           | Sao Paulo, BR (1G)        | busy            | busy            | 209 ms

Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:
---------------------------------
Test            | Value
                |
Single Core     | 1173
Multi Core      | 7251
Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/19421322

YABS completed in 11 min 18 sec
Now I see why u so eager to defend that's either one hell of a deal, or a large downpayment for it.

Sad it won't be for a life-time enjoy while u have access.

I paid 400€ for this one and already used it for ~2 years, imo it already paid off. To be honest, depending on how many lifetime servers you got, it might be worth the migration anyway. The 14,99€/m for unlimited lifetime servers with 5 backups each doesn't sound that bad.

@OpaqueRegistrant said:

@NotFoundException said:
No, it is not required, as explained in the post you literally linked

The post literally says if you don't pay monthly then your server will be locked.

Like explained before, it will be locked, when you don't pay for it anymore. If you don't migrate in the first place, this doesn't affect you.

LEBUserJoe · November 1

@NotFoundException said:
@LEBUserJoe said:
@NotFoundException said:

@User59128 said:

@NotFoundException said:

@Mainfrezzer said:
Hello I'm old, I would like a tldr of what both is. Fanks

zap-hosting offers lifetime server that you only pay for once (high initial price) and then need to open the product in panel every 3-4 months to keep it.

They now switch to a new control panel where you get backups for your servers, don't need to open the product to keep it and also a AI that can interact with the controls instead of you doing it yourself. If you want that, you need to pay a monthly fee, up to 16€/m depending on how many lifetime servers you have.

@User59128 said:
Has anyone bought one and tested it? I'm curious if anyone has had a positive or negative experience with the lifetime VPS plan.

Yes, I have a bunch and there is also a thread on LES with a few people having a bunch too. It is very stable, support answers between 5-15 minutes, if the AI auto answer isn't good enough, which is most of the time good enough. They somehow got it right. They also patch vulnerabilities very fast, for example their PHP version on all webhosting offers were patched in, I think, 30 minutes or so.

Has anyone posted yabs for it?

This is one of mine with a few apps on it running in parallel
# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
#              Yet-Another-Bench-Script              #
#                     v2026-10-31                    #
# https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #

Sun Nov  1 08:48:48 PM CET 2026

Basic System Information:
---------------------------------
Uptime     : 8 days, 5 hours, 59 minutes
Processor  : AMD EPYC 7763 64-Core Processor
CPU cores  : 12 @ 2450.000 MHz
AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
RAM        : 62.8 GiB
Swap       : 0.0 KiB
Disk       : 393.6 GiB
Distro     : Debian GNU/Linux 13 (trixie)
Kernel     : 6.12.113+deb13-amd64
VM Type    : KVM
IPv4/IPv6  : ✔ Online / ❌ Offline

IPv4 Network Information:
---------------------------------
ISP        : ZAP-Hosting GmbH
ASN        : AS206996 ZAP-Hosting GmbH
Host       : ZAP-Hosting GmbH \u0026 Co. KG
Location   : Münster, North Rhine-Westphalia (NW)
Country    : Germany

fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/sda1):
---------------------------------
Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
Read       | 102.38 MB/s  (24.9k) | 859.48 MB/s  (13.1k)
Write      | 102.65 MB/s  (25.0k) | 864.01 MB/s  (13.1k)
Total      | 205.04 MB/s  (50.0k) | 1.72 GB/s    (26.2k)
           |                      |
Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
Read       | 1.80 GB/s     (3.4k) | 1.32 GB/s     (1.2k)
Write      | 1.89 GB/s     (3.6k) | 1.41 GB/s     (1.3k)
Total      | 3.69 GB/s     (7.0k) | 2.74 GB/s     (2.6k)

iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
---------------------------------
Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping
-----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----
Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 986 Mbits/sec   | 998 Mbits/sec   | 9.74 ms
Eranium         | Amsterdam, NL (100G)      | 1.01 Gbits/sec  | 1.00 Gbits/sec  | 3.65 ms
Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 327 Mbits/sec   | 409 Mbits/sec   | 91.4 ms
Leaseweb        | Singapore, SG (10G)       | 182 Mbits/sec   | 730 Mbits/sec   | 157 ms
Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 366 Mbits/sec   | 529 Mbits/sec   | 142 ms
Leaseweb        | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 506 Mbits/sec   | 896 Mbits/sec   | 79.8 ms
Edgoo           | Sao Paulo, BR (1G)        | busy            | busy            | 209 ms

Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:
---------------------------------
Test            | Value
                |
Single Core     | 1173
Multi Core      | 7251
Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/19421322

YABS completed in 11 min 18 sec
Now I see why u so eager to defend that's either one hell of a deal, or a large downpayment for it.

Sad it won't be for a life-time enjoy while u have access.
I paid 400€ for this one and already used it for ~2 years, imo it already paid off. To be honest, depending on how many lifetime servers you got, it might be worth the migration anyway. The 14,99€/m for unlimited lifetime servers with 5 backups each doesn't sound that bad.

@OpaqueRegistrant said:

@NotFoundException said:
No, it is not required, as explained in the post you literally linked

The post literally says if you don't pay monthly then your server will be locked.

Like explained before, it will be locked, when you don't pay for it anymore. If you don't migrate in the first place, this doesn't affect you.

I just knew with those spec's you'd say migration was worth it, good luck with those new terms once migrated those prices can change anytime

NotFoundException · November 1

@LEBUserJoe said: I just knew with those spec's you'd say migration was worth it, good luck with those new terms once migrated those prices can change anytime

I won't, but it might be worth it for some people. I do agree with you, that if you migrate, you fucked up, even tho I don't agree with your last message regarding the law, but I suspect you to not trust the court / laws anyway, so I didn't bother commenting on it again.

Fubuki · November 1

so much for "lifetime" vps/dedi from zap-host

MikeA · November 1

the age old tale..

LEBUserJoe · November 1

@NotFoundException said:

@LEBUserJoe said: I just knew with those spec's you'd say migration was worth it, good luck with those new terms once migrated those prices can change anytime

I won't, but it might be worth it for some people. I do agree with you, that if you migrate, you fucked up, even tho I don't agree with your last message regarding the law, but I suspect you to not trust the court / laws anyway, so I didn't bother commenting on it again.

Been through court both against someone, and to defend myself.

I've seen the system fail on the outside and inside, i've seen judge's personal feeling sway his judgement humans are humans the system is flawed as humans are.

So yes I disagree and distrust of all general populations money spenders.

raindog308 · November 1

@LEBUserJoe said: I've seen the system fail on the outside and inside, i've seen judge's personal feeling sway his judgement humans are humans the system is flawed as humans are.

I've seen lifetime offers turn to non-lifetime...all these deals, like tears in the rain...

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