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We’re making Bunny DNS free: because a faster internet won’t build itself

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  • @Levi said:
    Cf 0.00$\y; bunny 12.00$\y.

    Still looong way ahead to even itch cf’s back.

    And they said they are FREE, my butt

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  • VTCuongVTCuong Member
    edited June 25

    @nghialele said:

    @Levi said:
    Cf 0.00$\y; bunny 12.00$\y.

    Still looong way ahead to even itch cf’s back.

    And they said they are FREE, my butt

    Still incredibly cheap for GeoDNS compared to alternatives like ClouDNS. Not really sure about normal DNS though, small websites wouldn't likely to exceed the previous free quota while big ones with huge traffic are already paying a lot for CDN that one or two dollars less wouldn't really matter for them (or they use cloudflare, which is free).

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  • @VTCuong said: Still incredibly cheap for GeoDNS compared to alternatives like ClouDNS.

    Yep, ClouDNS cheapest package is like $35/y.

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  • DataRecoveryDataRecovery Member
    edited June 25

    @sillycat said: As with all bunny.net services, accounts using the platform are subject to our standard $1/month minimum spend, but DNS itself no longer incurs any usage-based charges

    @budi1413 said: but they will exclude dns from now on, so if you just use dns only, you will not get the $1 charge. because there is no minimum usage.

    @budi1413 said: 2 domain zones.
    < 100k queries per zone per month.
    let's see how it goes.

    @budi1413 so you have actually registered to check whether they will charge or not?

    Guys, has anyone tried to do the same?

    I wouldn't mind having an extra slave DNS (don't need Geo), but not for $12/yr.

    @emgh said: At Cloudflare, free means free. I prefer this version of the word free.

    Cloudflare is free until they decide they have replaced sufficient part of the internet with themselves and it's time to recover the expenditure (which is extensive).

  • VTCuongVTCuong Member

    @JohnFilch123 said:

    @VTCuong said: Still incredibly cheap for GeoDNS compared to alternatives like ClouDNS.

    Yep, ClouDNS cheapest package is like $35/y.

    And that package is not even GeoDNS, the one that does cost $10/m, almost cover the entire year with Bunny. Also the fact that you can control your DNS with code on Bunny is already insane.

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  • JohnFilch123JohnFilch123 Member
    edited June 25

    @VTCuong said: And that package is not even GeoDNS, the one that does cost $10/m

    Correct. I like ClouDNS but they are becoming very expensive. Also, their sale price is non-recurring, which is big meh.

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @DataRecovery said: Cloudflare is free until they decide they have replaced sufficient part of the internet with themselves and it's time to recover the expenditure (which is extensive).

    Thanks for your guessing. I will get back to you once I want more guesses.

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  • VTCuongVTCuong Member

    @DataRecovery said:
    Cloudflare is free until they decide they have replaced sufficient part of the internet with themselves and it's time to recover the expenditure (which is extensive).

    Don't know about them, but 20% of internet traffic is already more than sufficient for me. The moment they turn hostile, people would just move to somewhere else. What they want from free customers is their traffic data, so they could catch up with cyber security trends and squeeze more out of their enterprise customers.

  • zedzed Member

    can we get a few more explanations about how it's ok they said free when they meant this other thing that isn't actually free because not cloudflare or whatever the fuck?

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  • @VTCuong said:

    @JohnFilch123 said:

    @VTCuong said: Still incredibly cheap for GeoDNS compared to alternatives like ClouDNS.

    Yep, ClouDNS cheapest package is like $35/y.

    And that package is not even GeoDNS, the one that does cost $10/m, almost cover the entire year with Bunny. Also the fact that you can control your DNS with code on Bunny is already insane.

    You can actually email them & ask for a deals of Premium Plan based on your actual needs, I have a custom plan with them but now i am using blueballdns self-hosted, GeoDNS from BEANSUMMERHOST NEXTGEN SHED HOSTING SOLUTION LLC.

    On Bunny case, are you currently using bro, I might need some insight.

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  • @nghialele said: You can actually email them

    Nah, wanna migrate from them. I am testing self-hosted PowerDNS and Poweradmin and LUA for auto failover.

    @nghialele said: are you currently using bro

    Nope, not yet. Will probably migrate to it once my ClouDNS expires (around September I think).

    @nghialele said: blueballdns

    What is it? :relaxed:

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  • @VTCuong said: 20% of internet traffic is already more than sufficient for me. The moment they turn hostile, people would just move to somewhere else

    I doubt there will be any "somewhere else" by that time.

    They are looking to become for the internet what youtube became for video.
    Do you happen to know any real youtube alternatives these days?

    A couple of months ago there was a similar thread on this when CF introduced one more "free" service (don't recall which one exactly).

    @emgh said: Thanks for your guessing. I will get back to you once I want more guesses.

    Might be out of stock by that time.

    I'd suggest to pre-order. Yearly rate is discounted.

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  • @JohnFilch123 said:

    @nghialele said: You can actually email them

    Nah, wanna migrate from them. I am testing self-hosted PowerDNS and Poweradmin and LUA for auto failover.

    @nghialele said: are you currently using bro

    Nope, not yet. Will probably migrate to it once my ClouDNS expires (around September I think).

    @nghialele said: blueballdns

    What is it? :relaxed:

    Similar to what you are doing with PowerDNS my man.

  • @nghialele said: Similar to what you are doing with PowerDNS my man.

    But a different one, which is..?

  • @COLBYLICIOUS said:
    Great news to be honest, I always was afraid of getting many DNS requests which can convert into expensive bills.

    hate when people open my website and my bill 5x

  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @JohnFilch123 said:

    @nghialele said: You can actually email them

    Nah, wanna migrate from them. I am testing self-hosted PowerDNS and Poweradmin and LUA for auto failover.

    @nghialele said: are you currently using bro

    Nope, not yet. Will probably migrate to it once my ClouDNS expires (around September I think).

    @nghialele said: blueballdns

    What is it? :relaxed:

    Nice. Throw in some buyvm slices for anycast and you're golden.

    Running your own is more expensive though, but also way more fun and you have more control.

  • @Saragoldfarb said: Running your own is more expensive though, but also way more fun and you have more control.

    I am mostly running them because (surprise!) I love self-hosting and I learn something from it. However, eventually, if I will be able to build truly fault tolerant system, I would love to fully migrate to self-hosted. You also get access to exotic DNS records like DANE.

  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @JohnFilch123 said:

    @Saragoldfarb said: Running your own is more expensive though, but also way more fun and you have more control.

    I am mostly running them because (surprise!) I love self-hosting and I learn something from it. However, eventually, if I will be able to build truly fault tolerant system, I would love to fully migrate to self-hosted. You also get access to exotic DNS records like DANE.

    Exactly... If you think it's fun, take a look at https://www.dnsdist.org

    You can put it in front of your pdns.

  • nikosanikosa Member
    edited June 25

    I just started reselling DDoS-Protected ClouDNS for $15/domain/year :'(

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  • @Saragoldfarb said: You can put it in front of your pdns.

    Oh I run it but for secure DNS - DOH I think.

    Thanked by 1Saragoldfarb
  • @VTCuong said:

    @nghialele said:

    @Levi said:
    Cf 0.00$\y; bunny 12.00$\y.

    Still looong way ahead to even itch cf’s back.

    And they said they are FREE, my butt

    Still incredibly cheap for GeoDNS compared to alternatives like ClouDNS.

    GCore provides GeoDNS in free plan too !!

  • VTCuongVTCuong Member
    edited June 25

    @nghialele said:
    On Bunny case, are you currently using bro, I might need some insight.

    Well, I used to host a custom privacy focused Twitter alternative front-end called Nitter, stopped ever since daddy Elon imposed restrictions on guest users and scrapers like me.

    Since the software is stateless, it's easy to deploy on multiple servers with Ansible, put all IPs in a JSON file on a S3 bucket with each country corresponding to that set of servers, write the logic and done. I also have another file listing every country and ASN that I wanted to block for excessive scraping, vulnerabilities scanning and DDoSing, which would redirect the traffic to a static site also on Bunny stating that they had been blocked and contact info.

  • rpqurpqu Member

    @VTCuong said:

    @nghialele said:
    On Bunny case, are you currently using bro, I might need some insight.

    Well, I used to host a custom privacy focused Twitter alternative front-end called Nitter, stopped ever since daddy Elon imposed restrictions on guest users and scrapers like me.

    Since the software is stateless, it's easy to deploy on multiple servers with Ansible, put all IPs in a JSON file on a S3 bucket with each country corresponding to that set of servers, write the logic and done. I also have another file listing every country and ASN that I wanted to block for excessive scraping, vulnerabilities scanning and DDoSing, which would redirect the traffic to a static site also on Bunny stating that they had been blocked and contact info.

    What was your domain name? I probably have used it

  • @DataRecovery said:
    Do you happen to know any real youtube alternatives these days?

    What do you mean by these days? When was there ever a real YT alternative? Sure, there might have been a time when alternatives had two handful of users instead of the one handful they have now (not entirely true - Rumble probably has more activity currently than historic alternatives ever had) but there wasn't anything that could have actually replaced YT.

    Using a YT alternative always meant and still means skipping on a bunch of content/traffic/revenue. Nothing much has changed in that regard and it's unlikely to change in the future since the masses go where the masses are. Bemoaning the lack of options is the easy part but actually doing something about it takes determination 99,999% of people don't have.

    The only thing that at least theoretically could do something about YT's monopoly is an invidious style interface that unifies the various platforms thereby taking away the drawback of lacking content while still driving views towards the smaller platforms. The big problem would be that these kinds of interfaces don't/can't really proxy ads therefore not really profiting the creators on smaller platforms. This would have to be changed to break the cycle, which again is unlikely and technically probably borderline impossible anyways.

  • suutsuut Member

    I use their DNS. But starting two months ago, they began charging $1 a month while calling it "free"

  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @totally_not_banned said:

    @DataRecovery said:
    Do you happen to know any real youtube alternatives these days?

    What do you mean by these days? When was there ever a real YT alternative?

    OnlyFans.

  • @Saragoldfarb said:

    @totally_not_banned said:

    @DataRecovery said:
    Do you happen to know any real youtube alternatives these days?

    What do you mean by these days? When was there ever a real YT alternative?

    OnlyFans.

    Hehehe, that made me chuckle.

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  • vovlervovler Member

    I like this change. Will give it a try for sure.

    Not sure about people complaining as if $1/m is the end of the world, especially when it's most likely used to remove inactive accounts and to deactivate their zones to keep things snappy, prevent multiple accounts/abuse which is known to happen when you offer free services.

    $1 after payment processor fees won't make them millionaires and won't make you poor. And the amount of service they are offering is more than worth it.

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  • VTCuongVTCuong Member

    @rpqu said:

    What was your domain name? I probably have used it

    Don't think you've ever used it, as I didn't list my instance on the repo, so all the traffic was coming from search engines only.

    And actually, I didn't stop because of daddy Elon, it was even more embarrassing than that.
    Basically, I used my personal domain ending in .vn and forgot to disable NSFW content, which the VNNIC didn't like. They seized my domain and contacted the local authorities, which called me for a talk. Scariest experience of my life.

  • xmsxms Member
    edited June 26

    @vovler said: $1/m is the end of the world

    this is not highendtalk. even in hightend route53 you can get a 1 zone for and 1 million queries for $0.90

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