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Help us test out our new Anti Spam system at NameCrane!

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  • bobertbobert Member

    Never mind, I found it, it is in a seperate "Domain Defaults" button besides "Add New Domain" and it defaults to disabled.

  • fburgerfburger Member

    the move to the new anti spam worked really well.
    But in standard settings it is not as good as spam experts and needs a lot of "train as spam"

    I think it is not good when mails with subject "enjoy intensely" or words with "vi**ra* - (correct spelled) come to the inbox and only get a score of 3.0 in mxfilter :D
    Maybe because I get this mails in german. Maybe it is not good with this language?

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @fburger said:
    the move to the new anti spam worked really well.
    But in standard settings it is not as good as spam experts and needs a lot of "train as spam"

    I think it is not good when mails with subject "enjoy intensely" or words with "vi**ra* - (correct spelled) come to the inbox and only get a score of 3.0 in mxfilter :D
    Maybe because I get this mails in german. Maybe it is not good with this language?

    Other languages are always harder, we don’t have quite as much data. Click the messages and you’ll see a “queue ID”. Send me some of those and I’ll see what we can tweak on our end :)

    Francisco

  • DiscoverDiscover Member

    @Francisco said:

    @Discover said:
    As a Namcrane webhosting customer, is it possible to test this without affecting my existing hosting setup? I have a few domains I’d like to use for testing and experimentation.

    You can pick/choose which domains you want to route through this. You have to update the MX records on every domain you want to cut over.

    Later this month the mx?.mxfilter.net records will be cut over.

    Francisco

    Got it, thanks for the clarification. How can I help test the email anti-spam service without using my existing NameCrane hosting account? Will there be a separate test account available for me to use?

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @Discover said: Got it, thanks for the clarification. How can I help test the email anti-spam service without using my existing NameCrane hosting account? Will there be a separate test account available for me to use?

    Too late, everything's using the new system as of last week :)

    The beta's over, the testing is over. SE's outta the mix.

    Francisco

  • DiscoverDiscover Member

    @Francisco said:

    @Discover said: Got it, thanks for the clarification. How can I help test the email anti-spam service without using my existing NameCrane hosting account? Will there be a separate test account available for me to use?

    Too late, everything's using the new system as of last week :)

    The beta's over, the testing is over. SE's outta the mix.

    Francisco

    Thanks for the update! I didn't realize the beta had already ended. Glad to hear everything is now running on the new system.

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    Some new improvements!

    DMARC Report Processing

    You can now wire up your DMARC records to be sent to MXFilter and it'll process, build reports, and send you weekly digests. This is reseller brandable too.

    This is completely free and included with all shared, reseller, & cranemail users! No need to pay ridiculous SAAS (i'm looking at you dmarcreport.com!) costs.

    Francisco

  • ThundasThundas Member

    @Francisco said:
    Some new improvements!

    DMARC Report Processing

    You can now wire up your DMARC records to be sent to MXFilter and it'll process, build reports, and send you weekly digests. This is reseller brandable too.

    This is completely free and included with all shared, reseller, & cranemail users! No need to pay ridiculous SAAS (i'm looking at you dmarcreport.com!) costs.

    Francisco

    Thank you

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @Thundas said: Thank you

    You're most welcome.

    Let me know what else we're missing! Compared to the paid options I think the only thing we'd need is a data table of all reports that have come in, so i'll work on that today.

    Francisco

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    Additional improvement: the data table!

    There's a download link on the right side that'll show up going forward. We store the raw reports for 120 days.

    Francisco

    Thanked by 1Thundas
  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran
    edited July 31

    One more feather in our cap: Hosted MTA-STS w/ REPORTING!

    This is a very niche feature, but one our privacy focused users will love. You can now use our hosted MTA-STS setup inside of MXFilter. It of course requires you're using our MX servers, but that's kinda obvious.

    We handle the SSL certificate, the mta-sts.txt hosting & generation, as well as the TLS report ingesting and report building :)


    All at no additional cost! Available for Shared, Resellers, & CraneMail! Its also fully reseller brandable, you just gotta wait for us to roll out access to the accounts.

    Francisco

  • AndreixAndreix Host Rep, Veteran

    Does it drop @cogentco.com and @cryptomus.com by default?

  • rpqurpqu Member

    @Andreix said:
    Does it drop @cogentco.com and @cryptomus.com by default?

    Are they still bothering you? Have you test @tentor's strategy?

  • AndreixAndreix Host Rep, Veteran
    edited July 31

    @rpqu said:

    @Andreix said:
    Does it drop @cogentco.com and @cryptomus.com by default?

    Are they still bothering you? Have you test @tentor's strategy?

    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4839816#Comment_4839816

    Fresh, today.

    Yeah... @tentor is just a lucky dude... I'm not.

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @Andreix said:
    Does it drop @cogentco.com and @cryptomus.com by default?

    No....t yet.

    We need to add a "recommended blocks" list that pops up on first login. Specify your industry and it just plops a bunch of lists. Webhosting/Sysadmin/IT? Cogentco. Online commerce in any shape or form? Cryptomus.com.

    Francisco

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    You can now tweak symbol weights via the 'Scoring Rules' :)

    Want the LLM to weigh in more/less? You can!

    Francisco

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    New update pushed out!

    Users now get notified when their outbound messaages get quarantined for one reason or another:

    This email is also reseller branded when applicable.

    Francisco

    Thanked by 1jpa
  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran
    edited September 17

    Another quick, update!

    A new per-domain option has been added to flag emails that have IBAN's in them. Domain admins have the option of blocking those emails from being sent out, or at the very least be alerted that such an email was sent.

    There's plenty of stories of email accounts/computers being compromised and used to send fraudulent wire details and stealing deposits.

    This isn't perfect. I'm sure there'll be funny cases where they write things backwards with instructions for the user to reverse the order or whatever, but its some free peace of mind for those that want it.

    Note: This only works on messages that leave the domain. Going user<>user on the same domain doesn't hit MXFilter.

    Francisco

    Thanked by 3jpa COLBYLICIOUS Innoix
  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    Another night time update shipped out.

    We now inspect all calendar invites to see if they're spammy/phishing/etc. This is a big issue with people abusing gmail/Calendry/Zoho/O365 to send spam (subscriptions, invoices, PAY NOW, etc).

    Thanks everyone!

    Francisco

    Thanked by 3jpa Innoix monsoon73
  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran
    edited 6:12PM

    Hello everyone!

    A new reputation system is currently shadow scoring all outbound email. This system will act as a 3rd voice weighing in on scoring:

    • Bayes/RBL/DBL/etc for your standard scoring
    • LLM/AI for reasoning, intent, worldly knowledge of companies, their domains, & spam patterns
    • Reputation, something earned over time

    Each day you're awarded a tiny bit of reputation with it taking up to 6 months to gain a perfect outbound reputation. You don't need to have a perfect reputation to gain from the system though. Every bit of reputation will help to tweak scores (either helping bring down your overall scores if you're a good mailer, or send you straight to hell if you're terrible).

    Your domain must send a ~reasonable amount of email per month to start earning reputation. Events like account compromises, bounce rates, Rejected outbound emails, etc, weigh in on your score as well. Not addressing compromised/spamming accounts will in time cause your domain to automatically lock.

    We'll soon expose redacted/limited reputation data to domain admins & mxfilter reseller users. I don't expect us to expose hard figures, but probably a simple "Good/Fair/Ass" sorta score.

    We'll be swapping the system from shadowing to full weigh in later this month.

    Thanks!

    Francisco

    Thanked by 2jpa klaus
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