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Experience isn't measured in years.
While I can understand this is rather vital for server management, you shouldn't forget that many people that are good at things at a young age, "learn on the go" - meaning they literally learn things as they are doing it, and as a result only learn the things they need. It may seem as if someone "knows nothing", whereas he simply doesn't know a few things you expect him to know, but has a very good understanding (and/or technique) otherwise. You can't call someone inexperienced because he doesn't know the things that you consider to be important - maybe his situation is entirely different?
Correct, but that does not make it grounds to assume that someone that is younger must thus automatically have less experience.
Uh, no, we can't. And suggestive statements like "I think we can all agree that [...]" while there is clearly a dispute over it, typically do not add value to a discussion and only tend to derail it.
Wrong. Experience isn't measured in years.
And there you have the vital point of experience vs. time, which basically leads to a contradiction in what you said yourself. You can't assume that everyone learns at the same rate, as typically that is not the case. It is extremely unlikely for any two individuals to learn about the same thing at the exact same rate.
Experience and knowledge are two different things. Someone can be experienced but that doesn't necessarily makes them knowledgeable.
Experience can (only) be gained in time.
So you are saying that my basic assumption is wrong, but argue against the conclusions i drew from that assumption? That doesn't make any sense.
And i never said that experience is measured in years.
Of course i can assume anything i want and then draw conclusions that are only valid if the assumption is true. For example i draw the conclusion that the traveler salesman problem can be solved in polylogarithmic time under the assumption that P=NP
Also to quote Wikipedia:
So you can't say:
The two concepts of experience and knowledge are so closely related that they can practically be considered the same in this context. Experience is something that, again, is not measured in time. As an example, take the following scenario: person A is 15 years old, and sits on his ass doing absolutely nothing except for casually reading some C++ articles for 5 years. Person B is 15 years old, and then spends two years on learning C++ and writing software. While person A is clearly older, and has 'spent more time', it would be rather clear that person B has more experience.
Um, no. I'm pointing out the contradiction in what you said. First you say 'experience can only be gained in time' as if nothing else is relevant, then you suddenly introduce a new element (the 'rate') that basically invalidates time as a metric in itself.
And i never said that experience is measured in years.
Experience and years were the only things you mentioned in that sentence, the only thing I can do there is assume you are implying a relationship between the two.
Of course you can assume anything you want, and it can be valid, but that does not mean it is true. And I was under the impression we were discussing reality here, not a hypothetical world where specific assumptions are true while they aren't in the 'real world'.
So you are saying that you took this:
as logically equivalent to:
because
??
If i wanted to imply something i would have written "implies".
So the best you can say is that my statement didn't contribute to the discussion, but you can in no way say that its false.
My original point was that you don't get experience overnight, it takes some time. Sorry if you understood it differently
tl;tr
@debug @gsrdgrdghd agreed, well said.
@joepie91 why you're defending the OP so much?
there was enough drama with HostSnowy. I'm not going to continue an argument here. i'm too bored of that.
I'm not "defending the OP". If you read back my posts, you will notice I never even mentioned CubixCloud once. It's simply that I'm getting sick of people discriminating others based on age, which is really not a relevant metric in 99,99% of the cases.
Oh, I definitely agree it takes time. It's just not reasonable to judge someone based on how much time he has spent on it, since practically noone learns at the same rate.
All you haters - just keep in mind that @EricCubixCloud has customer testimonials to prove you all wrong. I mean, they're right on their front page - actual quotes:
"I highly recommend them"
"Amazing Technical Support"
"I love my service with CubixCloud"
"My account was setup instantly"
I'm sure those are all legitimate...aren't you? :-)
Yes! They are from Twitter, other review websites, and user quotes
Just to point that out, i'm not a hater. i just said what i think. in the end it can be a decent vps provider, but i don't think so.
If so, I would include a screen shot of the twitter comment or a link or something. They look very fake. Tons of fly-by-night hosting companies have fake quotes in their templates so that's the perception.
Also, the "Customer Testimonials" link goes to a page that doesn't have any, which reinforces the perception.
agreed. @EricCubixCloud kid that looks fake. Put the sources somewhere.
Interesting language.
Good idea.
Thanks for the suggestions to help improve the new site, everyone. Keep them coming
Some wierd spellings going on in the "network" page.
Yeah, something does not seem right. Maybe try:
No big deal, I'll have to clean up the network page just a bit though.
Good catch, thanks.
... I love the irony of having your own typo in that statement.