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Virtualizor? Should we convert?

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  • HyperVM seemed great, the file manager is very helpful when first configuring your server. Also the blockips function it just seems real friendly for new users. I would much rather HyperVM.

  • I wish I had seen this sooner.

    DO NOT USE VIRTUALIZOR

    There are much better solutions out there that offer much better support.

    http://www.virtualizor.com/forums/index.php?topic=7287.0 still isn't fixed
    http://www.virtualizor.com/forums/index.php?topic=7227.0 still doesn't work properly
    http://www.virtualizor.com/forums/index.php?topic=7295.0 still not implemented

    Pretty terrible for a product that we're paying $9 per month per node for.

  • Not sure if this helps you or not but OnApp now have a free version http://onapp.com/cloud/free-download/ not sure if I would be ready to go with it without support. We often find small bugs which require support.

    But as the community develops it maybe an option....

    The free version does have some limitations though. You can see the comparison here

    http://onapp.com/cloud/pricing/

  • joepie91joepie91 Member, Patron Provider

    So it basically comes down to HyperVM being a mess for clients, and SolusVM and Virtualizor being a mess for hosts?

  • @joepie91: You've got it!

  • @vmhosts said: The free version does have some limitations though.

    It has so many limitations I would place it in the worthless pile.

  • yomeroyomero Member
    edited April 2012

    HyperVM is great, and have more features than SolusVM.

    IMHO, if a client has experience with Linux, must not have ANY problem using a panel with 'bad' design. ¬_¬

    Not buying because hypervm? ffs

    Client side perspective

  • InfinityInfinity Member, Host Rep

    @yomero said: HyperVM is great, and have more features than SolusVM.

    +1, if only the majority of customers thought that way.

  • twaintwain Member

    I've used Cloudmin Xen and Cloudmin KVM (GPL) for personal use and they are both excellent... not sure how they'd be for selling to an end user, but they do have a very functional user-facing interfacin where the client can reinstall to different template, reboot, vnc console etc etc.

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  • From a client perspective I don't care which control panel you use, as long as it provides basic capabilities such as reboot and some form of out-of-band access.

    What I do care about is secure (https) access to the panel. So far this not available (AFAIK) for either your Solus or your HyperVM setups. I have VMs with you using both panels. Signup emails included only http (insecure) links to the panels and I haven't received any update regarding https access.

  • @sleddog said: So far this not available (AFAIK) for either your Solus or your HyperVM setups

    SSL absolutely is available for Solus and I have a valid cert on it for port 5656, and HyperVM has the ability also, on port 8888, are you maybe visiting the insecure port?

    Now, a self signed cert might make your browser moan, but it is just a conspiracy started by the browser makers and cert companies.

  • @miTgiB said: SSL absolutely is available for Solus and I have a valid cert on it for port 5656, and HyperVM has the ability also, on port 8888, are you maybe visiting the insecure port?

    Now, a self signed cert might make your browser moan, but it is just a conspiracy started by the browser makers and cert companies.

    Yes, I've tried the various ports for https panel access, but to no avail (unable to connect).

    To be clear, I'm referring to service @BlueVM, and not Hostigation. Secure access to your panel fine :)

  • @joepie91 said: So it basically comes down to HyperVM being a mess for clients, and SolusVM and Virtualizor being a mess for hosts?

    Thank god someone sees my perspective. In reality the client side isn't as "user friendly" on hypervm, but its USABLE! Where as solusVM is a nut job in a box for hosts.

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  • I'm definitely looking for an alternative to SolusVM but it appears there won't be released any time soon. Time to start our own in-house panel...

  • One thing I've learned from releasing an open source panel for OpenVZ... a LOT of hosts are either lazy, stupid, or both. People want panels to hold their hands and do EVERY LITTLE THING for them. It's a bit ridiculous. If I was shopping for a VPS host, I'd avoid anyone using SolusVM just based on the fact that a lot of hosts wouldn't even know how to create a container without it.

  • InfinityInfinity Member, Host Rep

    @subigo said: If I was shopping for a VPS host, I'd avoid anyone using SolusVM just based on the fact that a lot of hosts wouldn't even know how to create a container without it.

    A few months ago I wouldn't have believed it but now I even know of hosts that don't even know what vzctl is, while running OpenVZ servers, and that's just scary.

  • @Infinity said: A few months ago I wouldn't have believed it but now I even know of hosts that don't even know what vzctl is, while running OpenVZ servers, and that's just scary.

    I use it every day :)

  • JacobJacob Member

    So what's this "vzctl", I have never heard of this before.

  • BlueVMBlueVM Member
    edited April 2012

    @Jacob said: So what's this "vzctl", I have never heard of this before.

    Its the command line prompt for using and administrating openvz.

  • InfinityInfinity Member, Host Rep

    @BlueVM said: Its the command line prompt for using and administrating openvz.

    I think he's having a joke about..

  • vzctl enter is the command that you hope your provider isn't using.

  • @Infinity said: I think he's having a joke about..

    I hope so :|

  • @Aldryic said: vzctl enter is the command that you hope your provider isn't using.

    If you don't trust your host, don't sign up. It's not like a provider can't access your files in Xen...

  • @subigo said: If you don't trust your host, don't sign up.

    That's the exact point I was making.

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