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  • interesting this KYC for something of 7 dollar per year. Buying a house is almost easier.

  • backtogeekbacktogeek Member, Host Rep
    edited February 8

    have at look at https://tierhive.com if you want, we are a small team, 2 old sys admins and a dev, not pretending to be enterprise, this is still in alpha, we dont collect personal info, free credit on sign up under most conditions, and we tried to do things differently, you get a /24 to play with on a custom meshed lan, you then build your servers on top, if you are looking for yabs porn, probably not for you, if you are looking to play with something a bit different that costs $0.000135 per hour on the minimums, cool!

    You can even manage your own dhcp scope :D

    The project is still in Alpha, we don't take ourselves too seriously, not 1 office was used in the development :D

    Thanked by 2RCVmedia tenji
  • @emperor said:
    noez.de ask only email for sign up

    noez ask after a phone number yet?

  • @Marx07 said: noez ask after a phone number yet?

    Never asked me for anything, i used their gre tunnel service.

  • @backtogeek said:
    have at look at https://tierhive.com if you want, we are a small team, 2 old sys admins and a dev, not pretending to be enterprise, this is still in alpha, we dont collect personal info, free credit on sign up under most conditions, and we tried to do things differently, you get a /24 to play with on a custom meshed lan, you then build your servers on top, if you are looking for yabs porn, probably not for you, if you are looking to play with something a bit different that costs $0.000135 per hour on the minimums, cool!

    You can even manage your own dhcp scope :D

    The project is still in Alpha, we don't take ourselves too seriously, not 1 office was used in the development :D

    You caught me at a good time, I was just scrolling through some of these providers to check some out since my billing cycle ends in 3 days. TierHive has peaked my interested for the next month! Registering now (:

    Thanked by 1backtogeek
  • I'll vouch for @aluy

    Thanked by 3tracks aluy forest
  • backtogeekbacktogeek Member, Host Rep

    @tracks said:

    @backtogeek said:
    have at look at https://tierhive.com if you want, we are a small team, 2 old sys admins and a dev, not pretending to be enterprise, this is still in alpha, we dont collect personal info, free credit on sign up under most conditions, and we tried to do things differently, you get a /24 to play with on a custom meshed lan, you then build your servers on top, if you are looking for yabs porn, probably not for you, if you are looking to play with something a bit different that costs $0.000135 per hour on the minimums, cool!

    You can even manage your own dhcp scope :D

    The project is still in Alpha, we don't take ourselves too seriously, not 1 office was used in the development :D

    You caught me at a good time, I was just scrolling through some of these providers to check some out since my billing cycle ends in 3 days. TierHive has peaked my interested for the next month! Registering now (:

    any issues or if you dont get free credit (still work in progress, some false positives still) just let me know by PM or ticket I will sort it out for you.

    Ant.

  • CamCam Member, Patron Provider

    @DataRecovery said:

    @tracks said:
    smaller providers that have a similar outlook of the "anti-corp" slop

    Great smaller provider with great smaller VPSes: https://hosting.gullo.me/ by @Cam

    ❤️ Thanks for the tag!!

  • HostBilbyHostBilby Member, Patron Provider
    edited February 8

    @cainyxues said:
    hnmm @aluy @Alyx @HostBilby @layer7 @MikeA @tentor [nice peeps I use some of them :smile: ]

    Edit: there's also @host_c for storage [maybe not a smol team but still]

    @cainyxues Thanks for the love babes!! 🥰

    @tracks mostly no bs and a little bit of inappropriate kisses 😘

    Thanked by 1cainyxues
  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @tracks said:
    Just wanted to pop back in and thank you all for the responses, I have actually used or looked into many of the providers listed. And I'm sure I'll be testing out at least one at the end of my websites billing cycle, in a couple of days.

    To clarify, when I say no bs - I generally mean minimal KYC, near instant setup, a "jump right in" type of setup that still favors the users privacy in most regards. Optional crypto is obviously also nice, generally speaking, I don't really care about the location for what I'm currently working on.

    Definitely try @MannDude incognet. I think it would be a great match for real.

  • @sillycat said:

    @MannDude said: No bullshit here.

    No bullshit until you need to make up excuses for why tickets go unanswered for months...

    @MannDude said:

    @sillycat said:

    @MannDude said: No bullshit here.

    No bullshit until you need to make up excuses for why tickets go unanswered for months...

    Because the services are mostly self managed. Ain't no excuse, we're a small team and id rather keep my $25/hr entry level help that I trust than to outsource to faster but less trusted 3rd party companies. I could use AI or hire some questionable support team tonight to man the help desk but choose not to. Would probably be cheaper but ultimately less trusted.

    I've never said our support is fast or available around the clock. There are better hosts if you need a quick response time to general support requests.

    EDIT: With that said, there is a slew of stuff that is waiting on my response but I'm swamped with work. 90% of support related complaints are my fault, so I don't mind taking the blame. Trying to get more organized so I don't get lost in other project stuff and spend a couple hours a day at least busting out the pending tasks / things set for me and me alone. You may consider that bullshit, that's fine.

    @tracks I can vouch for Incognet and honestly haven’t had ticket issues. They have never gone unanswered for a duration longer than I am willing to wait. Yes it’s longer than some bigger providers, but my issues weren’t urgent. I have never had urgent problems with @MannDude that he didn’t address immediately.

  • @tentor and @aluy I have used them both and can recommend them.

    Thanked by 3tentor aluy oloke
  • forestforest Member
    edited February 9

    @MikeA said:
    I like to give no bullshit.

    https://extravm.com/vps

    Crypto accepted. Price match (no $7/y.) 8 locations across the USA, APAC, Europe.

    Tried to load the website:

    You've been blocked from accessing our website. If you believe this is a mistake please email us at [email protected]. This can rarely happen if your IP has been blocked for reasons such as being a Tor IP, a DDoS source, etc.

    So you block Tor. Pass.

  • MikeAMikeA Member, Patron Provider
    edited February 9

    @forest said:

    @MikeA said:
    I like to give no bullshit.

    https://extravm.com/vps

    Crypto accepted. Price match (no $7/y.) 8 locations across the USA, APAC, Europe.

    Tried to load the website:

    You've been blocked from accessing our website. If you believe this is a mistake please email us at [email protected]. This can rarely happen if your IP has been blocked for reasons such as being a Tor IP, a DDoS source, etc.

    So you block Tor. Pass.

    Yeah sorry bro. Too many kiddy porn orders from Tor exits unfortunately. You can use any public/commercial/private VPN. (no need to share your info either)

  • @MikeA said:
    I like to give no bullshit.

    https://extravm.com/vps

    Crypto accepted. Price match (no $7/y.) 8 locations across the USA, APAC, Europe.

    Would recommend. Prem provider.
    Also I like the new website design.

  • forestforest Member
    edited February 9

    @Fubukibox said:
    I'll vouch for @aluy

    100% agree. Aluy is great. I have three VPSes with them.

    I also really like @MAXKO_Hosting who are very understanding of privacy. There's also Pfcloud UG (https://pfcloud.io) who aren't on LET but who are no-nonsense and don't care about KYC (unless you're trying to get VAT removed).

    Thanked by 2aluy oloke
  • forestforest Member
    edited February 9

    @MikeA said:

    @forest said:

    @MikeA said:
    I like to give no bullshit.

    https://extravm.com/vps

    Crypto accepted. Price match (no $7/y.) 8 locations across the USA, APAC, Europe.

    Tried to load the website:

    You've been blocked from accessing our website. If you believe this is a mistake please email us at [email protected]. This can rarely happen if your IP has been blocked for reasons such as being a Tor IP, a DDoS source, etc.

    So you block Tor. Pass.

    Yeah sorry bro. Too many kiddy porn orders from Tor exits unfortunately. You can use any public/commercial/private VPN. (no need to share your info either)

    You don't need to block access to the front page to stop people from hosting CP. Better to just have the orders automatically marked as fraud and then you can manually review any that look legitimate.

    But it's hard to be considered a no-BS hosting provider if you're one of the few on LET that completely block Tor even from the front page. It makes ExtraVM seem more hostile to privacy than even the average host. The USA for example has some of the strictest CP-related laws in the world, and yet providers like IncogNET who are based in the US manage to function just fine without blocking Tor. It's your choice, of course, but it would be better to find privacy-friendly alternatives.

    Thanked by 1MannDude
  • MikeAMikeA Member, Patron Provider

    @forest said:
    You don't need to block access to the front page to stop people from hosting CP.

    It's not worth putting extra effort to allow people to browse the site, and instead only get blocked then they try to order. I'd rather just tap one button rather than continuously maintaining a list of Tor exits. There's really never been any good orders from Tor (separate from HTTPs attacks through it.)

    It's not about blocking people who can't access the internet in the first place, or people who want anonymity - Tor is blocked by pretty much all global regimes that censor the internet of their citizens. I don't block VPNs, proxies, nor datacenter IPs. Any blocks of those that I did in the past were temporary due to attacks and were removed.

    We can have our own opinions!

    @forest said: and yet providers like IncogNET who are based in the US manage to function just fine without blocking Tor

    I believe he's actually not in the US but lives in Asia based on some of his past comments, but it's totally besides the point. Anyone can register a company in the United States, it cost like $50.

    I'd argue I'm more privacy oriented than many others, I just don't care to boast about it.

    "No-BS" means no bullshit. I never said that I run a "Tor friendly" company. But I'm also not against Tor, I've donated to them multiple times in the past and have Tor merch from like 10 years ago.

  • @MikeA said:

    @forest said:
    You don't need to block access to the front page to stop people from hosting CP.

    It's not worth putting extra effort to allow people to browse the site, and instead only get blocked then they try to order. I'd rather just tap one button rather than continuously maintaining a list of Tor exits. There's really never been any good orders from Tor (separate from HTTPs attacks through it.)

    It's not about blocking people who can't access the internet in the first place, or people who want anonymity - Tor is blocked by pretty much all global regimes that censor the internet of their citizens. I don't block VPNs, proxies, nor datacenter IPs. Any blocks of those that I did in the past were temporary due to attacks and were removed.

    We can have our own opinions!

    @forest said: and yet providers like IncogNET who are based in the US manage to function just fine without blocking Tor

    I believe he's actually not in the US but lives in Asia based on some of his past comments, but it's totally besides the point. Anyone can register a company in the United States, it cost like $50.

    I'd argue I'm more privacy oriented than many others, I just don't care to boast about it.

    "No-BS" means no bullshit. I never said that I run a "Tor friendly" company. But I'm also not against Tor, I've donated to them multiple times in the past and have Tor merch from like 10 years ago.

    Fair enough. I just have a knee-jerk reaction to Tor blocks since it's (almost) always synonymous with a complete disregard for privacy and the importance of anonymity.

  • MikeAMikeA Member, Patron Provider

    @forest said: it's (almost) always synonymous with a complete disregard for privacy and the importance of anonymity.

    I'll remove the blocks and see how it goes, hopefully not to regret, but I'll keep a managed challenge from Cloudflare on some. Looking over it now though I actually didn't block all Tor, just a handful of networks where most problems stem from. Tor exits on common datacenter/VPS ranges weren't ever blocked.

  • @MikeA said:

    @forest said: it's (almost) always synonymous with a complete disregard for privacy and the importance of anonymity.

    I'll remove the blocks and see how it goes, hopefully not to regret, but I'll keep a managed challenge from Cloudflare on some. Looking over it now though I actually didn't block all Tor, just a handful of networks where most problems stem from. Tor exits on common datacenter/VPS ranges weren't ever blocked.

    What might work well is requiring a pre-sales ticket to order while using Tor. That would give you some valuable insight into the kind of person who is purchasing. It should be easy to distinguish bots and MJJs from people who simply value privacy.

    Thanked by 1tracks
  • tmntwitwtmntwitw Member
    edited February 10

    @tracks said: To clarify, when I say no bs - I generally mean minimal KYC, near instant setup, a "jump right in" type of setup that still favors the users privacy in most regards.

    Maybe can check out @servers_guru, seems to match what you are looking for.

  • servers_guruservers_guru Member, Patron Provider

    @tmntwitw said:

    @tracks said: To clarify, when I say no bs - I generally mean minimal KYC, near instant setup, a "jump right in" type of setup that still favors the users privacy in most regards.

    Maybe can check out @servers_guru, seems to match what you are looking for.

    Thanks for the mention! We definitely fit that description since 2021 :)

  • b00nb00n Member

    @backtogeek said:
    have at look at https://tierhive.com if you want, we are a small team, 2 old sys admins and a dev, not pretending to be enterprise, this is still in alpha, we dont collect personal info, free credit on sign up under most conditions, and we tried to do things differently, you get a /24 to play with on a custom meshed lan, you then build your servers on top, if you are looking for yabs porn, probably not for you, if you are looking to play with something a bit different that costs $0.000135 per hour on the minimums, cool!

    You can even manage your own dhcp scope :D

    The project is still in Alpha, we don't take ourselves too seriously, not 1 office was used in the development :D

    What kind of hardware do you operate? I don't see it on your site. Cpu, ssd, etc.

  • backtogeekbacktogeek Member, Host Rep

    @b00n said:

    @backtogeek said:
    have at look at https://tierhive.com if you want, we are a small team, 2 old sys admins and a dev, not pretending to be enterprise, this is still in alpha, we dont collect personal info, free credit on sign up under most conditions, and we tried to do things differently, you get a /24 to play with on a custom meshed lan, you then build your servers on top, if you are looking for yabs porn, probably not for you, if you are looking to play with something a bit different that costs $0.000135 per hour on the minimums, cool!

    You can even manage your own dhcp scope :D

    The project is still in Alpha, we don't take ourselves too seriously, not 1 office was used in the development :D

    What kind of hardware do you operate? I don't see it on your site. Cpu, ssd, etc.

    Nothing that will win any YABS competitions, its all NVMe based as a minimum, but its not an enterprise grade project, so we just take what hardware we can get at a price that fits, anything from Intel D, to EPYC, Kansas runs on the best hardware with EPYC CPU's and DDR5, UK is probably the slower with a Xeon D-* base

    If you're concerned about the hardware, it's probably not right for you, if you are just curious :) Sign up, and you get free credit to test it anyway, all you need is an email address and a username, we dont collect personal info.

    Thanked by 1b00n
  • i think most web hosts just require an email address to sign up.
    only when you make a payment some might as full address that too to match credit card. but if paid by paypal no need to put all the address.

  • backtogeekbacktogeek Member, Host Rep

    @JasonM said:
    i think most web hosts just require an email address to sign up.
    only when you make a payment some might as full address that too to match credit card. but if paid by paypal no need to put all the address.

    We use an MOR model, technically you are never our customer, you pay the mearchant of record, we just geta signal confirming that and give you the account tokens.

    We need an email address, because the internet is a fun place to not verify sign-ups and also so you can get alerts etc if you run out of credit. but thats it.

    I guess technically we could even optionally purge your email address after sign up and you can use a username only. I will add that to the list/roadmap.

    Thanked by 1rpqu
  • @backtogeek said:

    ....
    We need an email address, because the internet is a fun place to not verify sign-ups and also so you can get alerts etc if you run out of credit. but thats it.

    I guess technically we could even optionally purge your email address after sign up and you can use a username only. I will add that to the list/roadmap.

    maybe you could add option to link social network contact (discord, telegram, whatsapp etc) & verify through that also & send msg to it as optional other than email.

  • backtogeekbacktogeek Member, Host Rep

    @tenji said:

    @backtogeek said:

    ....
    We need an email address, because the internet is a fun place to not verify sign-ups and also so you can get alerts etc if you run out of credit. but thats it.

    I guess technically we could even optionally purge your email address after sign up and you can use a username only. I will add that to the list/roadmap.

    maybe you could add option to link social network contact (discord, telegram, whatsapp etc) & verify through that also & send msg to it as optional other than email.

    Yeah we considered that, might go that way, probably not discord given that they are jumping into government pockets these days and Trust+Meta is not a good equation, but maybe telegram, signal, other stuff that's not just a data farm.

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    i like @tentor i think @tentor is good because @tentor server is very stable and @tentor server is very sweden and @tentor is @tentor

    thanks

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