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What happened to CloudCone? Was it hacked?

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  • The individual who previously complained about having paid the ransom yet not receiving the data has now closed his post and set it to private, rendering it inaccessible to others. What does this signify?

  • @qwerttaa said:
    The individual who previously complained about having paid the ransom yet not receiving the data has now closed his post and set it to private, rendering it inaccessible to others. What does this signify?

    Where

  • what t f? :|

  • LeviLevi Member

    This is business ruining event. Where is @Cloudcone ?

  • @Levi said:
    This is business ruining event. Where is @Cloudcone ?

    eeping

  • yeah.. seems cloudcone is hacked.
    hope our data, billing details are safe!

    Thanked by 2Ympker whynotlearn
  • @qwerttaa said:
    The individual who previously complained about having paid the ransom yet not receiving the data has now closed his post and set it to private, rendering it inaccessible to others. What does this signify?

    Sounds you're facing the same situation :lol:
    Sorry for your $100

  • gbzret4dgbzret4d Member
    edited January 30

    @Gravely said:
    Fixed their status page

    Pay $50 to decrypt the status page

  • edited January 30

    I guess that does quality as "major incident" - ouch

    Thanked by 1tentor
  • https://status.cloudcone.com/incidents/346624

    People here are not reporting network timeouts?

    Thanked by 1AlteredParadox
  • MaxTakebaMaxTakeba Member
    edited January 30

    @AlteredParadox said:

    I guess that does quality as "major incident" - ouch

    >

    some services should be facing network timeouts

    SHOULD?!?!?!?!!

  • @MaxTakeba said: SHOULD?!?!?!?!!

    Yeah, like that. Probs just an english translation thing.

    Thanked by 1sillycat
  • I am curious about the extent of the incident and how it is being handled.

    In regards to client communications and notifications

  • @qwerttaa said:
    [snip]

    The attacker seems to always be using the same address: https://polygonscan.com/address/0xEf35250A9A2A763F87E406C2a9187A5a389c09AA#tokentxns

    Only transaction ever is this guy.

    Thanked by 2oloke nghialele
  • Damn. Hope everyone got backups. Probably will have to reinstall my idling dedi once I have time. And change account passwords.

  • defaultdefault Veteran
    edited January 30

    I believe this issue could be isolated to just one server or one node. Up to this point this thread should have exploded in complaints but instead it is quite light.

  • At times like this, I would prefer Valve support on my side.

  • @Ympker said:
    At times like this, I would prefer Valve support on my side.

    A little off topic but the guy you see in the video used to actually be a programmer. I follow his comedy videos a lot lol. I came to know he was a programmer when he made a (whiplash?) inspired chatgpt video and he used so many programming terms that I was super pleasantly surprised and then I saw comments to figure out other people wondering too and then some replied (or he himself? I forgot) replied that he used to be a programmer.

    This guy's videos are awesome fwiw.

    Thanked by 1Ympker
  • Also another comment but what are some good (vps?) which actually have a backup UI or backups enabled by default. I feel like I don't backup.

    Any good cli tools as well would be preferable & where do you guys backup? Is there a standardized backup solution.

    Also another point but wouldn't some concern be also over the fact that the hackers can see your data in your first place (even if you have backup)

    Wouldn't this be really bad in some scenarios. Is there any way to prevent such thing too like LUKS encryption on rest maybe but I don't think LUKS encryption is supported for vps or do VPS support LUKS encryption?

  • @whynotlearn said:
    Also another comment but what are some good (vps?) which actually have a backup UI or backups enabled by default. I feel like I don't backup.

    Any good cli tools as well would be preferable & where do you guys backup? Is there a standardized backup solution.

    Also another point but wouldn't some concern be also over the fact that the hackers can see your data in your first place (even if you have backup)

    Wouldn't this be really bad in some scenarios. Is there any way to prevent such thing too like LUKS encryption on rest maybe but I don't think LUKS encryption is supported for vps or do VPS support LUKS encryption?

    ZeroByte, Kopia, Restic, borg, Duplicati, Databasus

    There are shit tons of tools out there just people choose to blindly trust low-pricing services with "expensive data". That's their choice.

  • @nghialele said:

    @whynotlearn said:
    Also another comment but what are some good (vps?) which actually have a backup UI or backups enabled by default. I feel like I don't backup.

    Any good cli tools as well would be preferable & where do you guys backup? Is there a standardized backup solution.

    Also another point but wouldn't some concern be also over the fact that the hackers can see your data in your first place (even if you have backup)

    Wouldn't this be really bad in some scenarios. Is there any way to prevent such thing too like LUKS encryption on rest maybe but I don't think LUKS encryption is supported for vps or do VPS support LUKS encryption?

    ZeroByte, Kopia, Restic, borg, Duplicati, Databasus

    There are shit tons of tools out there just people choose to blindly trust low-pricing services with "expensive data". That's their choice.

    Alright that's great but where do we have the backup service point to? What are some options that you would recommend? Backblaze/Wasabi is usually said, maybe Ionos has the cheapest S3

    I mean there is another thread https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/214024/what-backup-solution-you-use-or-better-what-is-the-ideal-let-backup-solution and people recommend storage vps's but wouldn't storage vps's from other servers/ LET providers might have the same issue too just as how cloudcone did?

  • @nghialele said:

    @whynotlearn said:
    Also another comment but what are some good (vps?) which actually have a backup UI or backups enabled by default. I feel like I don't backup.

    Any good cli tools as well would be preferable & where do you guys backup? Is there a standardized backup solution.

    Also another point but wouldn't some concern be also over the fact that the hackers can see your data in your first place (even if you have backup)

    Wouldn't this be really bad in some scenarios. Is there any way to prevent such thing too like LUKS encryption on rest maybe but I don't think LUKS encryption is supported for vps or do VPS support LUKS encryption?

    ZeroByte, Kopia, Restic, borg, Duplicati, Databasus

    There are shit tons of tools out there just people choose to blindly trust low-pricing services with "expensive data". That's their choice.

    Completely agree.
    There are lots of tools to do backups, many of them free. Storage servers can be had for a few dollars a month.
    There is no good excuse to not have backups.

  • I feel like hetzner backup solution can be good/cheap while still being really secure. If hetzner implodes, it would have some really harsh consequences which I don't see happening atleast right now.

    I don't know for backup, I would prefer the semi big providers (just below the AWS,Azure,GCP things) like OVH,Hetzner.

  • @rcy026 said:

    @nghialele said:

    @whynotlearn said:
    Also another comment but what are some good (vps?) which actually have a backup UI or backups enabled by default. I feel like I don't backup.

    Any good cli tools as well would be preferable & where do you guys backup? Is there a standardized backup solution.

    Also another point but wouldn't some concern be also over the fact that the hackers can see your data in your first place (even if you have backup)

    Wouldn't this be really bad in some scenarios. Is there any way to prevent such thing too like LUKS encryption on rest maybe but I don't think LUKS encryption is supported for vps or do VPS support LUKS encryption?

    ZeroByte, Kopia, Restic, borg, Duplicati, Databasus

    There are shit tons of tools out there just people choose to blindly trust low-pricing services with "expensive data". That's their choice.

    Completely agree.
    There are lots of tools to do backups, many of them free. Storage servers can be had for a few dollars a month.
    There is no good excuse to not have backups.

    I meaan I am not familiar with Cloudcone but this could've happened to anyone including a storage vps provider itself as well.

    I guess though one can still use storage vps provider on the fact that if say the backup service gets hacked/blocked, you have the main service and can create another backup vps

    and if the main service gets like (cloudconed?), then you have the backup

    It is relying on the fact that the attack would just not happen in the same time on both whose chances might be low but never zero. But the same goes for maybe big providers who have multiple servers & might have your data in different locations like say OVH,hetzner too.

    I guess Storage VPS or hetzner/ovh s3 both might be good enough but a backup is definitely a must.

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @whynotlearn said:
    Also another comment but what are some good (vps?) which actually have a backup UI or backups enabled by default. I feel like I don't backup.

    @Advin has daily automatic backup, but would they vanish if you forget to pay?

    Convoy backup

    Thanked by 1host_c
  • @whynotlearn said:

    @nghialele said:

    @whynotlearn said:
    Also another comment but what are some good (vps?) which actually have a backup UI or backups enabled by default. I feel like I don't backup.

    Any good cli tools as well would be preferable & where do you guys backup? Is there a standardized backup solution.

    Also another point but wouldn't some concern be also over the fact that the hackers can see your data in your first place (even if you have backup)

    Wouldn't this be really bad in some scenarios. Is there any way to prevent such thing too like LUKS encryption on rest maybe but I don't think LUKS encryption is supported for vps or do VPS support LUKS encryption?

    ZeroByte, Kopia, Restic, borg, Duplicati, Databasus

    There are shit tons of tools out there just people choose to blindly trust low-pricing services with "expensive data". That's their choice.

    Alright that's great but where do we have the backup service point to? What are some options that you would recommend? Backblaze/Wasabi is usually said, maybe Ionos has the cheapest S3

    I mean there is another thread https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/214024/what-backup-solution-you-use-or-better-what-is-the-ideal-let-backup-solution and people recommend storage vps's but wouldn't storage vps's from other servers/ LET providers might have the same issue too just as how cloudcone did?

    Buy a damn physical SSD with few TB on it for your precious data, what data you have? A full mirror of Debian need to be backed up?

    :D

    Thanked by 1whynotlearn
  • LeviLevi Member

    @nghialele said: Buy a damn physical SSD

    Nghia lele, did you saw prices on those SSDs? 7$ VPS is way better in short term dopamine secretion.

    Thanked by 1nghialele
  • CloudconeCloudcone Member, Patron Provider

    Hello,

    We acknowledge the incident that has happened today

    What We First Observed

    We were initially alerted to the incident when our monitoring systems detected that several VMs lost network connectivity. Upon investigating, we found ransom messages being displayed at boot on all of the affected VMs.

    Our engineering teams immediately isolated the affected servers and began analysis. During the investigation, we confirmed that the boot sectors of impacted VM disks had been overwritten with the ransom message. We are attempting to recover the data by various means including examining raw block devices, reconstructing partition tables, and searching for intact filesystems.

    How the Attack Was Executed

    Meanwhile, the team investigating the breach discovered that a remote bash script (which is no longer accessible) had been executed across all affected nodes. Shell histories on those hosts had also been cleared. We performed a thorough review of authentication activity using system journals, rotated log files, login records and auditing data and found no evidence of unauthorized SSH access. All recorded user logins matched known internal accounts.

    At this point, we started looking into other infrastructure that could have facilitated this attack and discovered that logs of one of our Virtualizor instances had been cleared from around the time of the incident. This is the Virtualizor instance that all of the affected nodes are connected to.

    At this time, based on the available evidence, we believe that the attackers used the "Server Terminal" functionality within Virtualizor to gain shell access to connected nodes and execute the malicious script. This access method does not use SSH, which explains the lack of evidence relating to SSH connectivity, and we also discovered that this doesn't leave any login records on the nodes (all root level logins are also alerted via emails), explaining why we didn't find anything out of the ordinary earlier.

    Scope of Impact

    We use Virtualizor instances to support our VPS services. At this time, we have confirmed that only nodes connected to a single Virtualizor instance were impacted. Nodes attached to our other platforms were not affected.

    We also do not store personal or billing information of our users within virtualization platforms such as Virtualizor. Our investigation has found no evidence that customer databases or billing systems were accessed or compromised.

    We are currently working on the way forward, and all affected clients shall be emailed, and we apologize for the inconvenience this has caused to all our affected clients.

  • @whynotlearn said:

    @rcy026 said:

    @nghialele said:

    @whynotlearn said:
    Also another comment but what are some good (vps?) which actually have a backup UI or backups enabled by default. I feel like I don't backup.

    Any good cli tools as well would be preferable & where do you guys backup? Is there a standardized backup solution.

    Also another point but wouldn't some concern be also over the fact that the hackers can see your data in your first place (even if you have backup)

    Wouldn't this be really bad in some scenarios. Is there any way to prevent such thing too like LUKS encryption on rest maybe but I don't think LUKS encryption is supported for vps or do VPS support LUKS encryption?

    ZeroByte, Kopia, Restic, borg, Duplicati, Databasus

    There are shit tons of tools out there just people choose to blindly trust low-pricing services with "expensive data". That's their choice.

    Completely agree.
    There are lots of tools to do backups, many of them free. Storage servers can be had for a few dollars a month.
    There is no good excuse to not have backups.

    I meaan I am not familiar with Cloudcone but this could've happened to anyone including a storage vps provider itself as well.

    I guess though one can still use storage vps provider on the fact that if say the backup service gets hacked/blocked, you have the main service and can create another backup vps

    and if the main service gets like (cloudconed?), then you have the backup

    It is relying on the fact that the attack would just not happen in the same time on both whose chances might be low but never zero. But the same goes for maybe big providers who have multiple servers & might have your data in different locations like say OVH,hetzner too.

    I guess Storage VPS or hetzner/ovh s3 both might be good enough but a backup is definitely a must.

    The backup should of course not be on the same infrastructure as the server you are backing up, that is correct.
    I have my backups on two storage servers from two different providers. The servers I backup does not run on any of those providers. I also have a NAS at home that fetches a copy from one of the backup servers once a month. The backup is of course monitored so if a server misses a backup I get an alert.
    This whole setup costs me less then $10/month, probably closer to $5.

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