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  • @hennaboy said:

    @384_cz said:
    Then what stops a provider from saying "You can use your server only under the full moon. We will delete all of your data otherwise"

    Absolutely nothing. Terms are there to be read. 99.9% of people never read them.

    Thats not true. European laws forbid this

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  • @Alyx said: stating that continued use means you consent is standard practice

    Exactly that. This is legal feature. If you do not want to accept new changes, you can stop using the service. Otherwise, you automatically accept new T&C.

  • @JohnFilch123 said:

    @Alyx said: stating that continued use means you consent is standard practice

    Exactly that. This is legal feature. If you do not want to accept new changes, you can stop using the service. Otherwise, you automatically accept new T&C.

    You say it is common. I agree. Okay - but what providers do not have this statement in their T&C

  • @384_cz said: but what providers do not have this statement in their T&C

    I do not remember how precisely it works but from my memory it may be contained in the local legislation. Something like all contracts are automatically subject to provisions a b c etc. So, if you do not have this statement, it will automatically be assumed it is in the contract.

  • tentortentor Member, Host Rep

    @384_cz said:
    Is suspending any better than severe throtting?

    Better for oversell (because once suspended there is no CPU consumption at all), and worse for customer

  • @KeyGenMe said:

    @Andru said:

    @384_cz said:
    Hello LET,

    this is my first review on LET, for https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/203848/deluxhost-net-high-performance-pre-order-new-vps-deals-start-7-annual-ned/p1 (Offer X-3)
    I bought
    They delivered it faster than advertised 14 days
    After that, everything worked fine for a first few months
    But yesterday, I started using the CPU heavily.
    For a few hours, it worked just fine.
    But then, the server was down!
    Got an e-mail saying:

    This is a notification that your service has now been suspended. The details of this suspension are below: ........ Suspension Reason: FUP Violation (CPU Usage) Please contact us as soon as possible to get your service reactivated.

    WHAT THE FUCK!!

    When I was buying this server, I have read all the ToS and FUP, and there was no thing such as Suspension FUP Violation, for using the CPU heavily

    Before that, I received a kinda rude message saying: ToS change: Continued use of our services after this notice constitutes acceptance of the updated terms.
    This is not legal! You can not change ToS in the middle of a billing period without consensual written consent.

    After that, I opened a ticket, and got my server working, but they said that they will do it again for heavy CPU usage.

    Tagging the provider: @DeluxHost

    384.cz

    SUE them.

    Going to court is probably the next adequate decision after the VPS is blocked. Personally, the server was also blocked for me. A telegram bot using PostgreSQL was installed on it, which practically did not consume server resources by more than 50%. After correspondence with support and as an exception, they allowed to reinstall the system and told me to control the resources. Personally, I made a strong-willed decision to transfer all my projects from DLX to other VPS and as soon as the server rental period ends (I have a lot of them) to leave DLX permanently. Just my couple of Cents

    Nobody is going to court over a $12/year server.

  • throttling to X% is essentially allowing customer to use X% indefinitely. that isn't ideal in a higher oversold environment. CPU usage should stagger so the node can afford to provide CPU power where needed, hence FUP.

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  • @tentor said:

    @384_cz said:
    Is suspending any better than severe throtting?

    Better for oversell (because once suspended there is no CPU consumption at all), and worse for customer

    Ideally, it is better for a hoster to sell vps that do not consume resources and block those who use them for their intended purpose. Increasing your profit. It seems to me that this is not the right solution to the problem and I am sure that many customers, faced with blocking, will eventually leave DLX. Unfortunately...

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  • @hennaboy said:

    @KeyGenMe said:

    @Andru said:

    @384_cz said:
    Hello LET,

    this is my first review on LET, for https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/203848/deluxhost-net-high-performance-pre-order-new-vps-deals-start-7-annual-ned/p1 (Offer X-3)
    I bought
    They delivered it faster than advertised 14 days
    After that, everything worked fine for a first few months
    But yesterday, I started using the CPU heavily.
    For a few hours, it worked just fine.
    But then, the server was down!
    Got an e-mail saying:

    This is a notification that your service has now been suspended. The details of this suspension are below: ........ Suspension Reason: FUP Violation (CPU Usage) Please contact us as soon as possible to get your service reactivated.

    WHAT THE FUCK!!

    When I was buying this server, I have read all the ToS and FUP, and there was no thing such as Suspension FUP Violation, for using the CPU heavily

    Before that, I received a kinda rude message saying: ToS change: Continued use of our services after this notice constitutes acceptance of the updated terms.
    This is not legal! You can not change ToS in the middle of a billing period without consensual written consent.

    After that, I opened a ticket, and got my server working, but they said that they will do it again for heavy CPU usage.

    Tagging the provider: @DeluxHost

    384.cz

    SUE them.

    Going to court is probably the next adequate decision after the VPS is blocked. Personally, the server was also blocked for me. A telegram bot using PostgreSQL was installed on it, which practically did not consume server resources by more than 50%. After correspondence with support and as an exception, they allowed to reinstall the system and told me to control the resources. Personally, I made a strong-willed decision to transfer all my projects from DLX to other VPS and as soon as the server rental period ends (I have a lot of them) to leave DLX permanently. Just my couple of Cents

    Nobody is going to court over a $12/year server.

    The amount doesn't matter. I'm for justice and it's a matter of principle

  • @gbzret4d said:

    @hennaboy said:

    @384_cz said:
    Then what stops a provider from saying "You can use your server only under the full moon. We will delete all of your data otherwise"

    Absolutely nothing. Terms are there to be read. 99.9% of people never read them.

    Thats not true. European laws forbid this

    As I said in another reply good luck with that as

    Its in terms across the EU working effectively.

    And not many here who can only afford a $12/year vps has the funds to do anything legally

  • @KeyGenMe said:

    @hennaboy said:

    @KeyGenMe said:

    @Andru said:

    @384_cz said:
    Hello LET,

    this is my first review on LET, for https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/203848/deluxhost-net-high-performance-pre-order-new-vps-deals-start-7-annual-ned/p1 (Offer X-3)
    I bought
    They delivered it faster than advertised 14 days
    After that, everything worked fine for a first few months
    But yesterday, I started using the CPU heavily.
    For a few hours, it worked just fine.
    But then, the server was down!
    Got an e-mail saying:

    This is a notification that your service has now been suspended. The details of this suspension are below: ........ Suspension Reason: FUP Violation (CPU Usage) Please contact us as soon as possible to get your service reactivated.

    WHAT THE FUCK!!

    When I was buying this server, I have read all the ToS and FUP, and there was no thing such as Suspension FUP Violation, for using the CPU heavily

    Before that, I received a kinda rude message saying: ToS change: Continued use of our services after this notice constitutes acceptance of the updated terms.
    This is not legal! You can not change ToS in the middle of a billing period without consensual written consent.

    After that, I opened a ticket, and got my server working, but they said that they will do it again for heavy CPU usage.

    Tagging the provider: @DeluxHost

    384.cz

    SUE them.

    Going to court is probably the next adequate decision after the VPS is blocked. Personally, the server was also blocked for me. A telegram bot using PostgreSQL was installed on it, which practically did not consume server resources by more than 50%. After correspondence with support and as an exception, they allowed to reinstall the system and told me to control the resources. Personally, I made a strong-willed decision to transfer all my projects from DLX to other VPS and as soon as the server rental period ends (I have a lot of them) to leave DLX permanently. Just my couple of Cents

    Nobody is going to court over a $12/year server.

    The amount doesn't matter. I'm for justice and it's a matter of principle

    Okay let me re-phrase that. If they can only afford a $12/year server they cannot afford legal costs. Its never going to court.

    Thanked by 1384_cz
  • DeluxHostDeluxHost Member, Patron Provider

    Well, i think everything that needed to be said has already been explained on the previous page.

    At this point, the thread feels more like a legal debate than anything related to our actual service.

    We hope our explanations have clarified any questions, and as always, we remain open to finding solutions and helping anyone who reaches out directly.

    And yes, we will continue to limit and suspend anyone who violates the FUP and abuses CPU and I/O on our nodes, negatively impacting others. Our strict policy, which has nothing to do with "overselling" theories as many say without even knowing who we are, will remain unchanged. We will always give everyone a second chance.
    If someone wants to sue, that's no problem. We know we're right, and we'll work to always give our customers the best, no matter what.

    Have a good day :)

  • @JohnFilch123 said:

    @Alyx said: stating that continued use means you consent is standard practice

    Exactly that. This is legal feature. If you do not want to accept new changes, you can stop using the service. Otherwise, you automatically accept new T&C.

    Fact that most businesses don't have even a basic idea of the law or how it works and make some ad-hoc legally non binding clauses in their terms does not make it a "legal feature".

    From consumer rights directive article 25:

    "If the law applicable to the contract is the law of a Member State, consumers may not waive the rights conferred on them by the national measures transposing this Directive.

    Any contractual terms which directly or indirectly waive or restrict the rights resulting from this Directive shall not be binding on the consumer."

    Consumers can't waive their rights. And clauses that restrict their rights are invalid. Plenty of other directives and laws also need to be taken into account and all are implmented in national laws.

  • @DeluxHost said: which has nothing to do with "overselling" theories as many say without even knowing who we are

    Youre a daft cunt who oversold way to much. Own up to it instead of lying way to much dumbass.

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  • "We prioritize open communication and commit to contacting any customer found in violation of this policy before taking action."

    yeah sure :joy: this is not the first time I've seen customers being suspended out of the wild, and has even happened to myself personally. Took you weeks to read my tickets, and a whole month to unsuspend my VM, to then be asked to reboot the VM and the disk become corrupted :joy: and, as usual, your support being useless.

    i don't think anyone takes your hosting seriously, but if anyone still does, be aware.

    3rd of September:

    Only until Lorenzo came to the ticket, a proper response was provided to me:

    If my usage really impacted the shared infrastructure, why would you suspend me on the 3rd of the month and not before? There's quite a gap between 20TB to 28TB for you to have noticed, specially since my usage was low sustained, not 1 Gbps 24/7.

    and just vague responses once again...

    I pay peanuts, so I never bothered, but don't go here and tell customers about stuff when you're full of shit.

  • 384_cz384_cz Member
    edited November 2025


    EDIT: This is on their website

  • DeluxHostDeluxHost Member, Patron Provider
    edited November 2025

    @zGato said:

    "We prioritize open communication and commit to contacting any customer found in violation of this policy before taking action."

    yeah sure :joy: this is not the first time I've seen customers being suspended out of the wild, and has even happened to myself personally. Took you weeks to read my tickets, and a whole month to unsuspend my VM, to then be asked to reboot the VM and the disk become corrupted :joy: and, as usual, your support being useless.

    i don't think anyone takes your hosting seriously, but if anyone still does, be aware.

    If my usage really impacted the shared infrastructure, why would you suspend me on the 3rd of the month and not before? There's quite a gap between 20TB to 28TB for you to have noticed, specially since my usage was low sustained, not 1 Gbps 24/7.

    I pay peanuts, so I never bothered, but don't go here and tell customers about stuff when you're full of shit.

    We’re not going to go into personal attacks or arguments, everything relevant has already been explained in detail earlier in this thread.

    If you truly experienced an issue with support or service delays, you’re always welcome to contact us directly with your ticket ID and we’ll be glad to check it again, The ticket was probably closed automatically by the system. We're sorry for the problems you're experiencing.

    Unfortunately we have many satisfied customers who are happy with our service, So i would say that many people define us as a serious host from what I can see.

    Every single suspension we've issued has a reason behind it, they're never random.
    There have certainly been mistakes, but we've always acknowledged them and successfully resolved them.

    We're certainly not perfect, but we do our best to provide everyone with a good, stable, and fast service without charging crazy amounts. Lately, due to some issues that have emerged, our support team has had a lot of tickets to deal with, so the delay in responding may be due to an oversight rather than a deliberate act.
    We are still expanding our ticket response team to make everything even faster.

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  • DeluxHostDeluxHost Member, Patron Provider

    @384_cz said:

    EDIT: This is on their website

    Based on the data, our responses are almost always within 2-3 hours, at any time.

    Except in exceptional cases or last-minute problems, this has nothing to do with the specific case.

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  • It seems to me that Matteo does not perceive any constructive criticism adequately. He wants to sell his product here. No more, no less. And the public opinion of LET users and indignation at his blocking of servers based on his message above, he doesn't care. I hope this topic will help many potential customers to know the truth and refrain from buying

  • DeluxHostDeluxHost Member, Patron Provider

    @KeyGenMe said:
    It seems to me that Matteo does not perceive any constructive criticism adequately. He wants to sell his product here. No more, no less. And the public opinion of LET users and indignation at his blocking of servers based on his message above, he doesn't care. I hope this topic will help many potential customers to know the truth and refrain from buying

    Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and that’s perfectly fine.

    However, our replies in this thread have been focused on facts, explaining our policies and how we handle real cases. We’ve already clarified everything in detail, and there’s really nothing new to add.

    We’re here on LET like any other provider, to present our offers and assist customers transparently. Constructive criticism is always welcome, but personal assumptions or misinformation don’t help anyone.

    We’ll keep doing our job the same way we always have, fairly, transparently, and focused on those who actually use and value our services.

    Thanked by 1pepa65
  • 384_cz384_cz Member
    edited November 2025

    @KeyGenMe said:
    It seems to me that Matteo does not perceive any constructive criticism adequately. He wants to sell his product here. No more, no less. And the public opinion of LET users and indignation at his blocking of servers based on his message above, he doesn't care. I hope this topic will help many potential customers to know the truth and refrain from buying

    ===THANKS===

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  • remyremy Member
    edited November 2025

    Suspending users is not a good solution.
    Hosting providers should focus on keeping uptime for their customers (except in cases of law violations)

    A good provider that wants to limit CPU usage should:

    • automatically throttle cpu or io when needed
    • remove the limit when the condition no longer met

    If a provider doesn’t want to throttle, they need to have systems to balance the load and move vps instances between nodes automatically.

    Reality is : few small providers do that.
    Deluxhost prices are unsustainable when users want to use their vps.

  • DeluxHostDeluxHost Member, Patron Provider
    edited November 2025

    @remy said:
    Suspending users is not a good solution.
    Hosting providers should focus on keeping uptime for their customers (except in cases of law violations)

    A good provider that wants to limit CPU usage should:

    • automatically throttle cpu or io when needed
    • remove the limit when the condition no longer met

    If a provider doesn’t want to throttle, they need to have systems to balance the load and move vps instances between nodes automatically.

    Reality is : few small providers do that.
    Deluxhost prices are unsustainable when users want to use their vps.

    Thank you for the constructive comment, that’s actually a very fair point.

    We completely agree that uptime and service continuity are the most important things for any provider. In larger environments or with higher-end plans, load balancing and automatic throttling systems are indeed great solutions.

    However, on low-cost VPS nodes, such systems can add significant overhead and reduce the available performance for everyone, which is why most smaller providers, including us, rely on manual review and lightweight trigger systems to react when resource usage becomes abusive.

    Still, we’re actively working on improving this, smarter throttling and better automation are definitely in our roadmap. Our goal is always to maintain uptime and fairness for all customers, even within very affordable plans.

    Appreciate the feedback, it’s the kind of input that actually helps us make things better. 🙏

    We're not deaf to valid criticism, everything has always depended on how it's delivered, and that changes everything.

    We're still writing down all the criticisms and advice you give us, good or bad. We're confident we can learn and improve even more, it's just a matter of time. <3

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  • We at Discord raised this issue for extreme load created by some x user most likely running a cron job every 30 mins & executing some heavy load job for couple of minutes thereby disturbing everyone on that node.... Such people should be permanently banned...
    I personally don't think @DeluxHost has oversold over here as the load is pretty low rest of the time. But abusers deserve permaban.... Here is the screenshot to justify the situation...

    Thanked by 1pepa65
  • Nobody is going to court over a $12/year server.

    The amount doesn't matter. I'm for justice and it's a matter of principle

    How do you justify using 50% cpu all day on a $12 plan?

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  • @Caztiel said:
    We at Discord raised this issue for extreme load created by some x user most likely running a cron job every 30 mins & executing some heavy load job for couple of minutes thereby disturbing everyone on that node.... Such people should be permanently banned...
    I personally don't think @DeluxHost has oversold over here as the load is pretty low rest of the time. But abusers deserve permaban.... Here is the screenshot to justify the situation...

    I assume you're on a KVM node... you can't see others' load average, for what I understand.

    I have 3 VMs in NL, different nodes, none of them are experiencing anywhere close to that. What's your CPU?

  • They suspended one of my idle servers for excessive CPU usage. It actually went offline at the start of September, becoming unresponsive and I couldn't even connect to is using VNC from their Control Panel. I restarted it a few times from the Control Panel and it would stay up for a day or so, then go offline and be totally unresponsive again.

    I completely abandoned it about a month ago for being a useless heap of shit, and then they suspended it for excessive CPU usage whilst it was idle and the networking was unresponsive.

    For some reason images won't embed in this post, but links to screenshots from my monitoring of the server are included below.

    Network usage, (note the long dropouts and bursts of activity from September 1st, which relate to me restarting it from the Panel and then it becoming unresponsive again): https://imgur.com/a/RKEsSd7

    CPU consumption for life of the server, (prior to abandonment it was barely ever under any load): https://imgur.com/a/7puvgBr

    I run quite a few monitoring agents on my servers, but there's no issues with them on 1c1g servers from other providers, (and these VMs are supposed to have 2 vCPUs), so I can't imagine my inactive processes triggered the issue of excessive CPU consumption.

    I also have a 2nd server from them that is in the same state, (unresponsive networking and abandoned for being a potato), but it hasn't been suspended yet.

    In their defense, I haven't opened tickets to report the issues. But I just don't open tickets for dirt cheap servers because it's more effort than the server is worth.

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  • @zGato said:

    @Caztiel said:
    We at Discord raised this issue for extreme load created by some x user most likely running a cron job every 30 mins & executing some heavy load job for couple of minutes thereby disturbing everyone on that node.... Such people should be permanently banned...
    I personally don't think @DeluxHost has oversold over here as the load is pretty low rest of the time. But abusers deserve permaban.... Here is the screenshot to justify the situation...

    I assume you're on a KVM node... you can't see others' load average, for what I understand.

    I have 3 VMs in NL, different nodes, none of them are experiencing anywhere close to that. What's your CPU?

    I have 1 CPU....But my understanding is, when some x users on same node abuses CPU, your processes will wait in queue there by showing higher load average on your top or htop

  • @Caztiel said:

    @zGato said:

    @Caztiel said:
    We at Discord raised this issue for extreme load created by some x user most likely running a cron job every 30 mins & executing some heavy load job for couple of minutes thereby disturbing everyone on that node.... Such people should be permanently banned...
    I personally don't think @DeluxHost has oversold over here as the load is pretty low rest of the time. But abusers deserve permaban.... Here is the screenshot to justify the situation...

    I assume you're on a KVM node... you can't see others' load average, for what I understand.

    I have 3 VMs in NL, different nodes, none of them are experiencing anywhere close to that. What's your CPU?

    I have 1 CPU....But my understanding is, when some x users on same node abuses CPU, your processes will wait in queue there by showing higher load average on your top or htop

    yeah but this means your process is extremely high CPU usage, so you're throwing rocks into your own roof.

  • DeluxHostDeluxHost Member, Patron Provider

    @CloudHopper said:
    They suspended one of my idle servers for excessive CPU usage. It actually went offline at the start of September, becoming unresponsive and I couldn't even connect to is using VNC from their Control Panel. I restarted it a few times from the Control Panel and it would stay up for a day or so, then go offline and be totally unresponsive again.

    I completely abandoned it about a month ago for being a useless heap of shit, and then they suspended it for excessive CPU usage whilst it was idle and the networking was unresponsive.

    For some reason images won't embed in this post, but links to screenshots from my monitoring of the server are included below.

    Network usage, (note the long dropouts and bursts of activity from September 1st, which relate to me restarting it from the Panel and then it becoming unresponsive again): https://imgur.com/a/RKEsSd7

    CPU consumption for life of the server, (prior to abandonment it was barely ever under any load): https://imgur.com/a/7puvgBr

    I run quite a few monitoring agents on my servers, but there's no issues with them on 1c1g servers from other providers, (and these VMs are supposed to have 2 vCPUs), so I can't imagine my inactive processes triggered the issue of excessive CPU consumption.

    I also have a 2nd server from them that is in the same state, (unresponsive networking and abandoned for being a potato), but it hasn't been suspended yet.

    In their defense, I haven't opened tickets to report the issues. But I just don't open tickets for dirt cheap servers because it's more effort than the server is worth.

    Hi,

    thanks for sharing your experience, and I appreciate that you mentioned you didn’t open a ticket. That’s exactly the best way for us to investigate such cases properly.

    Our suspension system isn’t random, it’s based on specific usage triggers. If a VPS becomes unresponsive or gets stuck in a crash loop, the hypervisor can sometimes detect that as sustained CPU activity, even if it looks “idle” from the user side. When that happens, the system flags the instance and we review it manually.

    In most cases, a simple check or reinstall solves it right away, we just need a support ticket to take a look.

    We totally understand that with low-cost services, people sometimes don’t want to bother opening tickets, but we’re always available and happy to fix things quickly when we’re contacted.

    If you still have that VPS active, feel free to DM me or open a quick ticket, I’ll personally have it reviewed.

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