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Netcup Double Charges

I just received my invoice from Netcup and saw that they charged 2x for one of my VDS's. On closer inspection it seems they charged for two months.

Has this happened to anyone else and does anyone have an idea why they would do this?

Comments

  • RubbenRubben Member

    Why don’t you contact netcup support and ask them? Or just sue them

  • @Rubben said:
    Why don’t you contact netcup support and ask them? Or just sue them

    Already contacted, just interested if it has happened to anyone else.

  • RubbenRubben Member

    @barbarza said:

    @Rubben said:
    Why don’t you contact netcup support and ask them? Or just sue them

    Already contacted, just interested if it has happened to anyone else.

    Good

  • sliixsliix Member

    If my experience told me anything with Netcup, it’s usually because of the contract (minimum month or something)

    YMMV of course so good that you’ve already contacted them.

  • using them since 4 month, never face like that, i used paypal, card.

  • daileeedaileee Member

    Never happened to me with Netcup, but i think i had a similar experience with Hetzner. Since my storage box usage is under €5, they bill me every two months instead.

    And yeah, on the invoice it looks like i'm being charged for two storage boxes.

  • RubbenRubben Member

    @daileee said:
    Never happened to me with Netcup, but i think i had a similar experience with Hetzner. Since my storage box usage is under €5, they bill me every two months instead.

    And yeah, on the invoice it looks like i'm being charged for two storage boxes.

    thats so funny because hetzner literally bills me for 0.02 EUR and i always pay via paypal idk why thats worth for them to send invoices that small

  • barbarzabarbarza Member
    edited May 2025

    Response from Netcup:

    The product you have specified has a billing period of 2 months and is therefore invoiced every 2 months, for 2 months in advance.
    The billing periods cannot be changed afterwards, without further ado. In some cases, this is possible via a so-called 'sidegrade' of the product with a higher minimum contract term.

    I find this really weird as when I signed up for the product it mentioned monthly term.

  • @barbarza said:
    Response from Netcup:

    The product you have specified has a billing period of 2 months and is therefore invoiced every 2 months, for 2 months in advance.
    The billing periods cannot be changed afterwards, without further ado. In some cases, this is possible via a so-called 'sidegrade' of the product with a higher minimum contract term.

    I find this really weird as when I signed up for the product it mentioned monthly term.

    some products are monthly contract but billing could be different increments. meaning you can cancel without penalty but get billed every so often

  • Take a look at your contract details.

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  • This sounds like a German provider kind of thing. Are they German by chance? Some German providers have horrible contractual terms tied to their services and will send you to debt collection for non-payment rather than delete the server. Always read the fine print before signing up and get clarification on how to exit the contract.

  • @daileee said:
    Since my storage box usage is under €5, they bill me every two months instead.

    And yeah, on the invoice it looks like i'm being charged for two storage boxes.

    Low transaction amounts aren't very economical from a business point of view because of the fees involved with credit cards and PayPal.

  • angstromangstrom Moderator

    @barbarza said:
    Response from Netcup:

    The product you have specified has a billing period of 2 months and is therefore invoiced every 2 months, for 2 months in advance.
    The billing periods cannot be changed afterwards, without further ado. In some cases, this is possible via a so-called 'sidegrade' of the product with a higher minimum contract term.

    I find this really weird as when I signed up for the product it mentioned monthly term.

    There's a distinction between "contract term" and "billing term" -- these two may but need not be the same

    For example, a typical situation is to have a contract term of 12 months but a billing term of 1 month (so one pays every month)

    It's highly unlikely that netcup suddenly changed the billing term after you purchased the service, so my guess is that you missed this detail when purchasing it

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  • Website says 1 month billing 🤷‍♂️

  • RubbenRubben Member

    @barbarza said:

    Website says 1 month billing 🤷‍♂️

    unrelated, but post yabs right now or send me in pm

  • JabJabJabJab Member

    @barbarza said:
    Website says 1 month billing 🤷‍♂️

    What website says now is not the thing you "bought" so it could be different ;')
    Take a look into first e-mails from netcup. Was there something like "extra SSD" promo or something and that changed the rules?

    However I don't really recall netcup running 2 months billing period for servers.

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  • @JabJab said:

    @barbarza said:
    Website says 1 month billing 🤷‍♂️

    What website says now is not the thing you "bought" so it could be different ;')
    Take a look into first e-mails from netcup. Was there something like "extra SSD" promo or something and that changed the rules?

    However I don't really recall netcup running 2 months billing period for servers.

    It was not on promo when I ordered it, it was like a month ago and the page was like this.

  • titustitus Member

    Sounds interesting, I have been using their services for a long time, but never happened similar with me. I have a small VPS with them (terms: yearly contract, monthly payment), and I always get my invoices month by month, and I pay it manually. No issues.

    You got one invoice with correct details, but Your card/PayPal got charged double? Or got one invoice with double fee (two month service fee)? Sorry it's not clear for me, Are You pay "manually"? Or 'PayPal subscription"/'saved card' 'auto payment'. I don't prefer automatic payments.

  • FalzoFalzo Member

    Maybe if it is the first invoice for that product, it is the initial month (post paid) and the next month (pre paid) they send an invoice on a specific date of month regardless of the start date of the service and for the future will then charge one month in advance.

    However there is a tab on the product details within the controlnpanel, that will show the terms, of what you actually booked.

    Just on a side note, of it comes with a 12 months contract term, you keep in mind that you need to pay for that period anyway and cancel proactively 30 days on advance and so on.

    Make sure you understood, what you signed up for 😉

  • n1njaxn1njax Member
    edited May 2025

    @barbarza said:

    @JabJab said:

    @barbarza said:
    Website says 1 month billing 🤷‍♂️

    What website says now is not the thing you "bought" so it could be different ;')
    Take a look into first e-mails from netcup. Was there something like "extra SSD" promo or something and that changed the rules?

    However I don't really recall netcup running 2 months billing period for servers.

    It was not on promo when I ordered it, it was like a month ago and the page was like this.

    Go to CCP, click Products, scroll down to your product, tap contract details and you should see something like this:

    Contract details
    We have agreed the following with you in addition to our T&Cs:

    Fee/month (individually agreed):
    15,56 € (Includes VAT where required)
    Fee/month (standard):
    18,52 € (Includes DE statutory VAT .)
    Minimum contractual term:
    1 Months
    Accounting period:
    all 1 months in advance
    Fee/term (standard):
    18,52 € (Includes DE statutory VAT .)
    Product created on:
    11.12.2024
    Cancellation period of notice:
    at least 31 days before expiry of the minimum contractual term
    Possible cancellation date:
    (If notice of cancellation submitted today .)
    10.07.2025
    Next account statement:
    11.06.2025 10:45:07

  • @Rubben said:

    @barbarza said:

    Website says 1 month billing 🤷‍♂️

    unrelated, but post yabs right now or send me in pm

    that looks like an RS 2000 so I'll just post mine (promo with more disk):

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    Processor  : AMD EPYC 9634 84-Core Processor
    CPU cores  : 8 @ 2246.624 MHz
    AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ❌ Disabled
    RAM        : 15.6 GiB
    Swap       : 0.0 KiB
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    Distro     : Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
    Kernel     : 6.1.0-34-amd64
    VM Type    : KVM
    IPv4/IPv6  : ✔ Online / ✔ Online
    
    IPv6 Network Information:
    ---------------------------------
    ISP        : netcup GmbH
    ASN        : AS214996 netcup GmbH
    Host       : Netcup KVM MNZ
    Location   : Manassas, Virginia (VA)
    Country    : United States
    
    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/vda3):
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    Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 165.30 MB/s  (41.3k) | 381.61 MB/s   (5.9k)
    Write      | 165.73 MB/s  (41.4k) | 383.62 MB/s   (5.9k)
    Total      | 331.04 MB/s  (82.7k) | 765.24 MB/s  (11.9k)
               |                      |
    Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 418.70 MB/s    (817) | 596.05 MB/s    (582)
    Write      | 440.95 MB/s    (861) | 635.75 MB/s    (620)
    Total      | 859.66 MB/s   (1.6k) | 1.23 GB/s     (1.2k)
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping
    -----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----
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    Eranium         | Amsterdam, NL (100G)      | 2.50 Gbits/sec  | 2.16 Gbits/sec  | 98.9 ms
    Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 2.31 Gbits/sec  | 386 Mbits/sec   | 180 ms
    Leaseweb        | Singapore, SG (10G)       | busy            | 1.63 Gbits/sec  | --
    Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 2.60 Gbits/sec  | 1.21 Gbits/sec  | 65.9 ms
    Leaseweb        | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 2.68 Gbits/sec  | 2.36 Gbits/sec  | 6.78 ms
    Edgoo           | Sao Paulo, BR (1G)        | 2.27 Gbits/sec  | 485 Mbits/sec   | 123 ms
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv6):
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    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping
    -----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 2.47 Gbits/sec  | 198 Mbits/sec   | 75.3 ms
    Eranium         | Amsterdam, NL (100G)      | 2.46 Gbits/sec  | 2.13 Gbits/sec  | 98.8 ms
    Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 1.75 Gbits/sec  | 523 Mbits/sec   | 180 ms
    Leaseweb        | Singapore, SG (10G)       | 2.07 Gbits/sec  | 1.35 Gbits/sec  | 238 ms
    Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 2.53 Gbits/sec  | 987 Mbits/sec   | 65.9 ms
    Leaseweb        | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 2.70 Gbits/sec  | 2.32 Gbits/sec  | 6.60 ms
    Edgoo           | Sao Paulo, BR (1G)        | 2.28 Gbits/sec  | 1.33 Gbits/sec  | 123 ms
    
    Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:
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    Multi Core      | 9432
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  • Someone won a double hard drive, maybe you won a double monthly fee

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