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  • ahnlakahnlak Member

    @jar said:

    @MikePT said:
    Portugal, Spain, UK, France, Belgium etc we seem to be down. No power at all.

    This is why I tell people to fuck off when they say "lol Texas isn't even part of the national power grid!" Because fuck centralization and fuck people who call a strength a weakness :joy:

    FWIW, UK and Belgium were totally untouched by this, there's one crazy media organisation in Portugal that just added some random countries to the list because... the story wasn't big enough already?

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  • MumblyMumbly Member

    @jar said: This is why I tell people to fuck off when they say "lol Texas isn't even part of the national power grid!" Because fuck centralization and fuck people who call a strength a weakness

    But Texas isn't even part of the national power grid! :p

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  • MumblyMumbly Member

    But seriously, I (from Central Europe) barely know what a power outage looks like. I mean, we were without power for a whole 5 minutes about 8 years ago. It was pretty cool - the entire street, everything around us, in complete calm darkness.
    I was thinking once about buying a UPS... just in case, but honestly, the batteries would most likely die in 10-15 years without being needed even once.

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  • olokeoloke Member

    @itachikonoha said:
    This is where 3rd world countries like us shine! We don't care about outage because it is our daily occurrence.

    Not having outage in the whole day is something that will make me surprise.

    which country/region is that?
    if you're comfortable sharing ofc

  • MultiMulti Member

    @jar said:

    @MikePT said:
    Portugal, Spain, UK, France, Belgium etc we seem to be down. No power at all.

    This is why I tell people to fuck off when they say "lol Texas isn't even part of the national power grid!" Because fuck centralization and fuck people who call a strength a weakness :joy:

    Afaik Texas has the most power outtages of all states in the US and far more outtages than any European country. So I wouldn't call that a strength.

  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran

    @Multi said: Afaik Texas has the most power outtages of all states in the US and far more outtages than any European country. So I wouldn't call that a strength.

    Google gives me all kinds of different answers to "what state has the most power outages". Texas is usually up there, but so are California, Maine, Alaska, Mississippi, Kentucky, West Virginia, etc.

    It's not clear what a "Texas power outage" means, though. The entire state? Never happens. A couple city blocks in El Paso for an hour? Wouldn't surprise me.

    The worst states appear to be the ones that are (a) poor (MS, for example), (b) have lots of natural disasters, and/or (c) large geographically because statistics.

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  • @shallownorthdakota said:
    I remember the blackout in 2003 that affected the Northeastern US and Canada. I was in downtown Toronto trying to get to my lawyers office on the 24th floor of an office tower on University Ave.

    It was wild driving back home on the highway that night and (not) seeing the normally lit up skyline of Toronto almost completely dark.

    As it turns out it was caused by a software bug (feature) in an alarm system for the power grid.

    Computer failure
    A software bug known as a race condition existed in General Electric Energy's Unix-based XA/21 energy management system.[14] Once triggered, the bug stalled FirstEnergy's control room alarm system for over an hour. System operators were unaware of the malfunction. The failure deprived them of both audio and visual alerts for important changes in system state.[15][16]

    Unprocessed events queued up after the alarm system failure and the primary server failed within 30 minutes. Then all applications (including the stalled alarm system) were automatically transferred to the backup server, which itself failed at 14:54. The server failures slowed the screen refresh rate of the operators' computer consoles from 1–3 seconds to 59 seconds per screen. The lack of alarms led operators to dismiss a call from American Electric Power about the tripping and reclosure of a 345 kV shared line in northeast Ohio. But by 15:42, after the control room itself lost power, control room operators informed technical support (who were already troubleshooting the problem) of the alarm system problem.[17]

    There's very little more annoying than having a redundant failover system that immediately fails on failover. You're sighing in relief for the failover and then it's a double fuck when it also fails.

  • @jar said:

    @MikePT said:
    Portugal, Spain, UK, France, Belgium etc we seem to be down. No power at all.

    This is why I tell people to fuck off when they say "lol Texas isn't even part of the national power grid!" Because fuck centralization and fuck people who call a strength a weakness :joy:

    What? Texas power grid design is dumb and basic. It's only worse from arrogance and incompetence.

  • @artxs said:

    @xaoc said:

    @artxs said:
    It's just EU testing energy independence from Russia.

    And there's the rusophile 😅

    just the facts.. no philes or phobia. :)

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2025/01/03/europe-russia-ukraine-war-energy-imports-oil-gas-pipeline/

    That's irrelevant to this topic. You can gtfo now.

  • @Mumbly said: But seriously, I (from Central Europe) barely know what a power outage looks like. I mean, we were without power for a whole 5 minutes about 8 years ago.

    It happens a little more often for me, last time was like 4ish years ago, one of the substations got triggered by thermal protection, took about an hour to get back.

    But a whole country wide outage in Belgium last happened in 1982.

  • davidedavide Member

    @raindog308 said:

    @Multi said: Afaik Texas has the most power outtages of all states in the US and far more outtages than any European country. So I wouldn't call that a strength.

    Google gives me all kinds of different answers to "what state has the most power outages". Texas is usually up there, but so are California, Maine, Alaska, Mississippi, Kentucky, West Virginia, etc.

    It's not clear what a "Texas power outage" means, though. The entire state? Never happens. A couple city blocks in El Paso for an hour? Wouldn't surprise me.

    The worst states appear to be the ones that are (a) poor (MS, for example), (b) have lots of natural disasters, and/or (c) large geographically because statistics.

    I read it was Commiefornia that started the trend of buying large condo unit methane generators laid on a concrete slab in the backyard. The story was that electric trellises had frequent car accidents being built closely alongside the roads.

    No idea.

  • GhtGht Member

    Could be a Large Scale Cyber Attack.

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran
    edited April 28

    @Multi said:

    @jar said:

    @MikePT said:
    Portugal, Spain, UK, France, Belgium etc we seem to be down. No power at all.

    This is why I tell people to fuck off when they say "lol Texas isn't even part of the national power grid!" Because fuck centralization and fuck people who call a strength a weakness :joy:

    Afaik Texas has the most power outtages of all states in the US and far more outtages than any European country. So I wouldn't call that a strength.

    Can't hear you over the sound of my electricity.

    But if we're saying 5 countries lost power at once like this post seems to be, I'll take a lecture on how great centralization is with nothing more than a hysterical laugh :joy:

  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    There actually was another Level 2 alert this afternoon.
    Level 3 was when Spain got cut off.

    Very stable these days.

  • MikePTMikePT Veteran

    Power is back, came back 1 hour ago to my city. Finally.

  • MikePTMikePT Veteran

    @AlexanderM said:

    @MikePT said:
    Portugal, Spain, UK, France, Belgium etc we seem to be down. No power at all.

    Mike where’s your UPS at!?

    No UPS could resist such downtime! :(

    @magicvpn said:

    @MikePT said: Belgium

    Source? We are not down.

    I included the website but it was fake news.

    Apparently it was just Portugal, Spain and a part of France.

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  • MikePTMikePT Veteran

    @Mahfuz_SS_EHL said:
    What's the update now @MikePT ?

    All good. Power is being restored gradually in Portugal and I believe in Spain too. 👌

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  • nohavpsnohavps Member, Patron Provider

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    cv1 hosting off 7 hours

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  • MikePTMikePT Veteran
    edited April 28

    To explain further guys, we're told that the issue was indeed the interconnection between other countries. It looks like we had to cut ties for now until it stabilizes and so we can power up our country.

    Such power downtimes never occurred to this extent. Even a local outage rarely takes almost 12h like this one, unless there's a fire close or heavy rain. Still very rare.

  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    @nohavps said:
    cv1

    cv1 hosting off 7 hours

    https://status.c1vhosting.it/

    Cutting Edge basement DC

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  • @Mumbly said:

    @jar said: This is why I tell people to fuck off when they say "lol Texas isn't even part of the national power grid!" Because fuck centralization and fuck people who call a strength a weakness

    But Texas isn't even part of the national power grid! :p

    Europe's power grid is much more reliable then the US one. Multiple failovers in most regions. And we don't have tornados in Europe.

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran
    edited April 28

    @gbzret4d said: Europe's power grid is much more reliable then the US one

    lol

    @MikePT said: Portugal, Spain, UK, France, Belgium etc we seem to be down. No power at all.

    European exceptionalism is today as American exceptionalism was in the early 2000s.

    "We knocked out half of the continent at once... don't worry, we're still better!"

  • nohavpsnohavps Member, Patron Provider

    I understand that the problem in Spain was a connection point in France that disconnected and caused this problem.

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  • @jar said:

    @gbzret4d said: Europe's power grid is much more reliable then the US one

    lol

    @MikePT said: Portugal, Spain, UK, France, Belgium etc we seem to be down. No power at all.

    European exceptionalism is today as American exceptionalism was in the early 2000s.

    "We knocked out half of the continent at once... don't worry, we're still better!"

    The outages of individual power lines or areas can be better absorbed in Europe. What is wrong with this statement?

  • gbzret4dgbzret4d Member
    edited April 28

    @Neoon said:

    @nohavps said:
    cv1

    cv1 hosting off 7 hours

    https://status.c1vhosting.it/

    Cutting Edge basement DC

    They are hosting in Spain? I thought the power outage only affected Spain and Portugal

  • nohavpsnohavps Member, Patron Provider

    @gbzret4d said:

    @Neoon said:

    @nohavps said:
    cv1

    cv1 hosting off 7 hours

    https://status.c1vhosting.it/

    Cutting Edge basement DC

    They are hosting in Spain? I thought the power outage only affected spain

    In Italy but I think the disconnection affected him

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  • gbzret4dgbzret4d Member
    edited April 28

    @nohavps said:
    I understand that the problem in Spain was a connection point in France that disconnected and caused this problem.

    Prime minister of Spain told the media that their Spanish based Electricity supplier had a problem in their own network. I thin they are called something with RED. I guess France dropped the connection to Spain after the voltage and frequency reached a critical level

    Edit: from a news source:

    According to REN, a "rare atmospheric phenomenon" in Spain due to extreme temperature fluctuations in the interior of the country is the cause of the outages.

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  • @MikePT said:
    Power is back, came back 1 hour ago to my city. Finally.

    Are you in Lisbon or next to Lisbon?

  • zedzed Member

    I didn't want to be that guy while people were without power but since it's better now:

    lol eu

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  • @MikePT said:

    @AlexanderM said:

    @MikePT said:
    Portugal, Spain, UK, France, Belgium etc we seem to be down. No power at all.

    Mike where’s your UPS at!?

    No UPS could resist such downtime! :(

    @magicvpn said:

    @MikePT said: Belgium

    Source? We are not down.

    I included the website but it was fake news.

    Apparently it was just Portugal, Spain and a part of France.

    Are you talking about your private ups or an ups for your DC?

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