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  • Guys have he tried turning on and off the server?

  • @ashish168527 said:
    Guys have he tried turning on and off the server?

    Sir stop trolling. Only serious answers allowed here, or you scare off some people.

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  • HeinzHeinz Member

    @barbaros said:

    I'm sorry to hear that you don't know how to read or understand. Hopefully you do better over time. Perhaps ask for some free help on LET and someone might help.

    You really talk a lot without saying anything.
    I actually asked for advice many years ago. But instead of just giving advice, someone took his free time and wrote a script for me. Out of the blue, without me even asking.
    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/16127/#Comment_16127

    People here used to be friendly, and I also tried to be friendly and helpful to others. Now. Now we have you.

  • @Heinz said:

    @barbaros said:

    I'm sorry to hear that you don't know how to read or understand. Hopefully you do better over time. Perhaps ask for some free help on LET and someone might help.

    You really talk a lot without saying anything.
    I actually asked for advice many years ago. But instead of just giving advice, someone took his free time and wrote a script for me. Out of the blue, without me even asking.
    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/16127/#Comment_16127

    People here used to be friendly, and I also tried to be friendly and helpful to others. Now. Now we have you.

    Aww man, I am really sorry you can't find people to write some script for you anymore for free on a public board made up by random strangers on web :(

  • HeinzHeinz Member

    It seems you have reading difficulties.

  • Prick won't give up. Just let it go...

  • tarisutarisu Member, Host Rep

    @xHosts said:

    @barbaros said:

    @xHosts said:
    I sadly see the “meme” idiots that post rubbish are the same who people often complain about too, posting and trolling people does not really help their company image either.

    I beg to differ that it doesn't help with their company image. People come here for exposure of their brands. Would you keep renewing your Host rep tag if your deal topic wouldn't stay on front page not long enough? Or if no one buys your services? I guess not.

    Well I mean sure you can tell people "share their order number and bend over front of the mirror and take a selfie and post it into the thread in return of getting double bandwidth" is a good marketing trick to keep your post active. But don't pretend that it's better than shitposters or trolls.

    I am not aware of any provider is unhappy about trolling / shitposting under their thread either or no topics got locked for such reason.

    And don't forget, trolls and shitposters has budget also, so indeed they are also customers themselves so don't treat them like shit.

    Giving someone 5 minutes free support, they will remember in the future if they are seeking a new provider or someone asks them to recommend a provider

    @Mumbly well as you can see even the free souls have an expectation or hoping in return. So it's not "wrong" to expect something in return of asking.

    Btw I have no issues with @xHosts or any other providers doing such thing.

    I look at it like this, you can have 2 providers offering the same service, same price, everything 100% the same

    Provider A - has a history of trolling or being unhelpful here and also direct to their customers

    Provider B - Has helped people, maybe asks people to post their order number for a upgrade or to win something to keep their thread on the first page for a while

    I think most would choose B, someone who has helped others, supported the community and uses the view as a professional image. There is a chance nothing comes of the help provided but people see a provider helping even non customers or someone with a history of being unhelpful to their customers, trolling random users which would push any potential customer away just based on attitude.

    When I review the thread I think it is a bit unnecessarily prolonged, nobody supports anyone for free in these days. I experienced this myself before Tarisu, I helped people with small things in my freelance work and it went to the point of my good intentions being abused. I am responding on my own behalf, not on behalf of my company.

    A customer doesn't look at who you help or what you do (I don't include scams or other cases), people look at your investments, your system and the support you provide to your customers. I don't think a friendly approach to users or a sincere approach with “meme” will harm anyone. Today's internet is very advanced, we can solve any problem very simply with AI or a simple google search before asking someone.

  • MumblyMumbly Member
    edited April 2025

    @tarisu it's actually quite simple: if someone asks you for help and you can't or don't want to help, just don't be a dick about it.
    No one's being blamed for not being able or not wanting to help. I'm raising my voice mainly because people are being dicks toward a fellow human who simply asked for help.
    I know he could have asked better, gave more info about the issues, etc., but it is what it is. Not everyone is well versed in these things or knows his way around.

    Anyway, with a bit of goodwill, this issue has been solved...

  • tarisutarisu Member, Host Rep
    edited April 2025

    @Mumbly said:
    Anyway, with a bit of goodwill, this issue has been solved...

    I don't think it's about intention, the majority of people who get this information have searched for hours and hours to find the information they need, and while searching for this information, they have learned good details and want someone else to realize the same. When we research a topic, we also get different information about that topic, which is natural. This is just what they said in this thread with sense of humor.

  • xHostsxHosts Member, Patron Provider

    @tarisu said:

    @xHosts said:

    @barbaros said:

    @xHosts said:
    I sadly see the “meme” idiots that post rubbish are the same who people often complain about too, posting and trolling people does not really help their company image either.

    I beg to differ that it doesn't help with their company image. People come here for exposure of their brands. Would you keep renewing your Host rep tag if your deal topic wouldn't stay on front page not long enough? Or if no one buys your services? I guess not.

    Well I mean sure you can tell people "share their order number and bend over front of the mirror and take a selfie and post it into the thread in return of getting double bandwidth" is a good marketing trick to keep your post active. But don't pretend that it's better than shitposters or trolls.

    I am not aware of any provider is unhappy about trolling / shitposting under their thread either or no topics got locked for such reason.

    And don't forget, trolls and shitposters has budget also, so indeed they are also customers themselves so don't treat them like shit.

    Giving someone 5 minutes free support, they will remember in the future if they are seeking a new provider or someone asks them to recommend a provider

    @Mumbly well as you can see even the free souls have an expectation or hoping in return. So it's not "wrong" to expect something in return of asking.

    Btw I have no issues with @xHosts or any other providers doing such thing.

    I look at it like this, you can have 2 providers offering the same service, same price, everything 100% the same

    Provider A - has a history of trolling or being unhelpful here and also direct to their customers

    Provider B - Has helped people, maybe asks people to post their order number for a upgrade or to win something to keep their thread on the first page for a while

    I think most would choose B, someone who has helped others, supported the community and uses the view as a professional image. There is a chance nothing comes of the help provided but people see a provider helping even non customers or someone with a history of being unhelpful to their customers, trolling random users which would push any potential customer away just based on attitude.

    When I review the thread I think it is a bit unnecessarily prolonged, nobody supports anyone for free in these days. I experienced this myself before Tarisu, I helped people with small things in my freelance work and it went to the point of my good intentions being abused. I am responding on my own behalf, not on behalf of my company.

    A customer doesn't look at who you help or what you do (I don't include scams or other cases), people look at your investments, your system and the support you provide to your customers. I don't think a friendly approach to users or a sincere approach with “meme” will harm anyone. Today's internet is very advanced, we can solve any problem very simply with AI or a simple google search before asking someone.

    Maybe they do, that is great for someone with a background with the means to invest from the start.

    Maybe I learnt and earned everything the hard way, starting my business from zero. I worked as a free support agent in return for a cPanel reseller back in 2015 following a accident that left me disabled, during recovery I self taught myself basic server skills as sitting in front of my PC was what I could manage, I helped that company on support and got a cPanel reseller in exchange, built that to earn a small income, bought my first node with OVH with the profits, expanded a few more nodes, moved to a more provider friendly supplier.

    You might claim people see investment, that is perfectly true but someone who had nothing to start with, nothing to invest and taught myself everything I respect people, since that costs nothing, I also respect people who are new to servers, maybe cannot afford to pay high tech fees because when I started I could not afford anything and that taught me a great deal.

    I have seen you on a lot of threads posting AI images to troll, maybe that is your attempt at humour but when someone needs a helping hand there is no need to be a total idiot about it. If you or won't help then ignore the post, no need to prove you wish to feel full of self importance on a forum.

    I would rather keep my self respect and have people if they do any type of background research before ordering see a helpful, supportive and someone behind the company as a good person.

    You can claim "I am responding as myself not the company" all you like, if you are in a work place or on the way to work or way home and still in the companies uniform and act a fool, people still will associate you with that company and attach your actions to that company.

    Just food for thought

    Thanked by 2Mumbly Frameworks
  • @barbaros said:

    @ashish168527 said:
    Guys have he tried turning on and off the server?

    Sir stop trolling. Only serious answers allowed here, or you scare off some people.

    :p sorry i slipped i thought situation was under control but looks like it escalated quickly

  • Like, how can anyone help without you providing more details.

  • i'm here!

  • @xHosts said:

    @barbaros said:

    @xHosts said:
    I sadly see the “meme” idiots that post rubbish are the same who people often complain about too, posting and trolling people does not really help their company image either.

    I beg to differ that it doesn't help with their company image. People come here for exposure of their brands. Would you keep renewing your Host rep tag if your deal topic wouldn't stay on front page not long enough? Or if no one buys your services? I guess not.

    Well I mean sure you can tell people "share their order number and bend over front of the mirror and take a selfie and post it into the thread in return of getting double bandwidth" is a good marketing trick to keep your post active. But don't pretend that it's better than shitposters or trolls.

    I am not aware of any provider is unhappy about trolling / shitposting under their thread either or no topics got locked for such reason.

    And don't forget, trolls and shitposters has budget also, so indeed they are also customers themselves so don't treat them like shit.

    Giving someone 5 minutes free support, they will remember in the future if they are seeking a new provider or someone asks them to recommend a provider

    @Mumbly well as you can see even the free souls have an expectation or hoping in return. So it's not "wrong" to expect something in return of asking.

    Btw I have no issues with @xHosts or any other providers doing such thing.

    I look at it like this, you can have 2 providers offering the same service, same price, everything 100% the same

    Provider A - has a history of trolling or being unhelpful here and also direct to their customers

    Provider B - Has helped people, maybe asks people to post their order number for a upgrade or to win something to keep their thread on the first page for a while

    I think most would choose B, someone who has helped others, supported the community and uses the view as a professional image. There is a chance nothing comes of the help provided but people see a provider helping even non customers or someone with a history of being unhelpful to their customers, trolling random users which would push any potential customer away just based on attitude.

    I can vouch for that. I am your customer exactly for that reason. There were multiple options to consider, but the interaction in the forum and helping hand in prior cases to lead me towards xhosts.

    Thanked by 1Frameworks
  • @Mumbly said:
    He asked for help on a tech forum. If you can't or don't want to help, just stfu or something.

    @Tushar include some more info, what OS you're running, what happened, what error do you see, etc., so someone can help you or at least give you useful advice.

    Agreed with @Mumbly here. Last time in threads like this, me and an other poster did provide solution but in sea of "meme" posts, it got lost. Atleast people should keep the thread clean if not helping.

    Thanked by 1Mumbly
  • 1uu11uu1 Member

    It's quite frustrating when developers are asked for help with little information and no compensation. Either you pay for the assistance, or you provide as much information as possible.

  • in addition to the joking and moralistic statements here, i must solemnly state that a yabs is actually always useful and necessary. on the one hand, you learn more about the system concerned and on the other hand, many people crave geekbench scores of 3500+ or under 100 in order to feel excitement or horror.

  • admaxadmax Member, Megathread Squad

    no time :)

  • itachikonohaitachikonoha Member
    edited April 2025

    @1uu1 said:
    It's quite frustrating when developers are asked for help with little information and no compensation. Either you pay for the assistance, or you provide as much information as possible.

    You are free to ignore those requests.

    In stackoverflow, when I was new, I have met many veteran devs which went to length in order to explain something.

    They did, not because they expected something in return but because they wanted to help as a community.

    Many chose not to do so because I didn't put that question up for bounty. And they are also justified in their reasons to ignore.

    But atleast they didn't pollute the question.

    Thanked by 1Mumbly
  • edited April 2025

    @xHosts said: I try to help others, I don’t see the point in making someone issue worse.

    I sadly see the “meme” idiots that post rubbish are the same who people often complain about too, posting and trolling people does not really help their company image either.

    Giving someone 5 minutes free support, they will remember in the future if they are seeking a new provider or someone asks them to recommend a provider

    Yep. Exactly. It's global. Trolling and meme nonsense is super toxic. Some believe they are not trolls and are doing some kind of good for the forum members and having popcorn drama fun, but they do more damage than good while not having the full context and story on what they are bashing.

    Thanked by 1Mumbly
  • @CharityHost_org said:

    @xHosts said: I try to help others, I don’t see the point in making someone issue worse.

    I sadly see the “meme” idiots that post rubbish are the same who people often complain about too, posting and trolling people does not really help their company image either.

    Giving someone 5 minutes free support, they will remember in the future if they are seeking a new provider or someone asks them to recommend a provider

    Yep. Exactly. It's global. Trolling and meme nonsense is super toxic. Some believe they are not trolls and are doing some kind of good for the forum members and having popcorn drama fun, but they do more damage than good while not having the full context and story on what they are bashing.

    well, providers who snoop on their customers' data (ftp storage) also cause damage. this violates the most important thing, namely trust. there may be trolling, but destroyed trust is fatal.

  • edited April 2025

    @hyperblast said: well, providers who snoop on their customers' data (ftp storage) also cause damage. this violates the most important thing, namely trust. there may be trolling, but destroyed trust is fatal.

    For trust to be established, it is a 2 way relationship. A customer that places explicitly AUP disallowed content publicly on the service violating AUP well knowingly doing so is the first case of violating of trust. It's different to host their public content and find they have violated AUP. I repeat, trolling with assumptions without full context and story around the issues do more damage than good.

  • so, his problem solved?

  • @ErawanArifNugroho said:
    so, his problem solved?

    yup, @xHosts did it :)

  • @ErawanArifNugroho said:
    so, his problem solved?

    Yes, was legacy vs UEFI only in the bios. @xHosts helped him

    Thanked by 1ErawanArifNugroho
  • @CharityHost_org said:

    @hyperblast said: well, providers who snoop on their customers' data (ftp storage) also cause damage. this violates the most important thing, namely trust. there may be trolling, but destroyed trust is fatal.

    For trust to be established, it is a 2 way relationship. A customer that places explicitly AUP disallowed content publicly on the service violating AUP well knowingly doing so is the first case of violating of trust. It's different to host their public content and find they have violated AUP. I repeat, trolling with assumptions without full context and story around the issues do more damage than good.

    Look, you shouldn't stretch it far.

    Even in justice system, when evidences against crime are obtained illegally, those evidences are not admissible for a reason.

    Misleading advertisement to non savy tech users is another mistake from you on the top. They were under the impression that they were buying FTP storage and NOT shared hosting.

    IIRC, you have been warned about that behavior earlier also.

    So you shouldn't take this opportunity as holier than thou and force your criticism thread in to the same domain as this thread. That's very unethical, malicious of you to paint both the same by same color.

  • xHostsxHosts Member, Patron Provider

    @1uu1 said:
    It's quite frustrating when developers are asked for help with little information and no compensation. Either you pay for the assistance, or you provide as much information as possible.

    As in one of my replies, some people cannot afford to pay $100 or more on a sunday night for something that took 5 minutes. I can see both sides of the coin.

    While many businesses sometimes see $100 as nothing my personal background makes me respect people who come from the less fortunate background. I worked and fought hard to build everything that I have from literally nothing, that is why now I am happy to give someone 5 minutes of my time to fix a tiny issue, people remember someone who goes out of their way to help them but even more so they remember people who just act like a child that is showing off to his mates.

    The ones who spend tike making their AI meme to feel cool could have solved the issue and had a thanks from the person in the time it took to make their meme.

    I guess that is what splits the user base

  • @CharityHost_org said:

    @xHosts said: I try to help others, I don’t see the point in making someone issue worse.

    I sadly see the “meme” idiots that post rubbish are the same who people often complain about too, posting and trolling people does not really help their company image either.

    Giving someone 5 minutes free support, they will remember in the future if they are seeking a new provider or someone asks them to recommend a provider

    Yep. Exactly. It's global. Trolling and meme nonsense is super toxic. Some believe they are not trolls and are doing some kind of good for the forum members and having popcorn drama fun, but they do more damage than good while not having the full context and story on what they are bashing.

    I would prefer trolling instead of getting caught scanning your customers’ file and then claim every one is trolling because you don’t like what they say.

    Then you go to providers chat and cry there some more so.

  • @itachikonoha said:

    @xHosts said:

    @barbaros said:

    @xHosts said:
    I sadly see the “meme” idiots that post rubbish are the same who people often complain about too, posting and trolling people does not really help their company image either.

    I beg to differ that it doesn't help with their company image. People come here for exposure of their brands. Would you keep renewing your Host rep tag if your deal topic wouldn't stay on front page not long enough? Or if no one buys your services? I guess not.

    Well I mean sure you can tell people "share their order number and bend over front of the mirror and take a selfie and post it into the thread in return of getting double bandwidth" is a good marketing trick to keep your post active. But don't pretend that it's better than shitposters or trolls.

    I am not aware of any provider is unhappy about trolling / shitposting under their thread either or no topics got locked for such reason.

    And don't forget, trolls and shitposters has budget also, so indeed they are also customers themselves so don't treat them like shit.

    Giving someone 5 minutes free support, they will remember in the future if they are seeking a new provider or someone asks them to recommend a provider

    @Mumbly well as you can see even the free souls have an expectation or hoping in return. So it's not "wrong" to expect something in return of asking.

    Btw I have no issues with @xHosts or any other providers doing such thing.

    I look at it like this, you can have 2 providers offering the same service, same price, everything 100% the same

    Provider A - has a history of trolling or being unhelpful here and also direct to their customers

    Provider B - Has helped people, maybe asks people to post their order number for a upgrade or to win something to keep their thread on the first page for a while

    I think most would choose B, someone who has helped others, supported the community and uses the view as a professional image. There is a chance nothing comes of the help provided but people see a provider helping even non customers or someone with a history of being unhelpful to their customers, trolling random users which would push any potential customer away just based on attitude.

    I can vouch for that. I am your customer exactly for that reason. There were multiple options to consider, but the interaction in the forum and helping hand in prior cases to lead me towards xhosts.

    As I try to deal less with your messages. Just wanted to add @hosthatch was right about their comments about you.

    Thanked by 2admax PineappleM
  • itachikonohaitachikonoha Member
    edited April 2025

    @barbaros said:

    @itachikonoha said:

    @xHosts said:

    @barbaros said:

    @xHosts said:
    I sadly see the “meme” idiots that post rubbish are the same who people often complain about too, posting and trolling people does not really help their company image either.

    I beg to differ that it doesn't help with their company image. People come here for exposure of their brands. Would you keep renewing your Host rep tag if your deal topic wouldn't stay on front page not long enough? Or if no one buys your services? I guess not.

    Well I mean sure you can tell people "share their order number and bend over front of the mirror and take a selfie and post it into the thread in return of getting double bandwidth" is a good marketing trick to keep your post active. But don't pretend that it's better than shitposters or trolls.

    I am not aware of any provider is unhappy about trolling / shitposting under their thread either or no topics got locked for such reason.

    And don't forget, trolls and shitposters has budget also, so indeed they are also customers themselves so don't treat them like shit.

    Giving someone 5 minutes free support, they will remember in the future if they are seeking a new provider or someone asks them to recommend a provider

    @Mumbly well as you can see even the free souls have an expectation or hoping in return. So it's not "wrong" to expect something in return of asking.

    Btw I have no issues with @xHosts or any other providers doing such thing.

    I look at it like this, you can have 2 providers offering the same service, same price, everything 100% the same

    Provider A - has a history of trolling or being unhelpful here and also direct to their customers

    Provider B - Has helped people, maybe asks people to post their order number for a upgrade or to win something to keep their thread on the first page for a while

    I think most would choose B, someone who has helped others, supported the community and uses the view as a professional image. There is a chance nothing comes of the help provided but people see a provider helping even non customers or someone with a history of being unhelpful to their customers, trolling random users which would push any potential customer away just based on attitude.

    I can vouch for that. I am your customer exactly for that reason. There were multiple options to consider, but the interaction in the forum and helping hand in prior cases to lead me towards xhosts.


    As I try to deal less with your messages. Just wanted to add @hosthatch was right about their comments about you.

    First of all, I do not require any validation from you.

    Nor I quoted any of your posts. My post was an appreciation post towards @xHosts and I don't see a reason why a third party will/should get offended.

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