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rpqu

@FAT32 said:

@rpqu said:

@FAT32 said:
Is this the correct thread to shitpost

If you said so.

I am a bit bored

Hmm, want to start a drama?

FAT32

@rpqu said:

@FAT32 said:

@rpqu said:

@FAT32 said:
Is this the correct thread to shitpost

If you said so.

I am a bit bored

Hmm, want to start a drama?

How

rpqu

@FAT32 said:

@rpqu said:

@FAT32 said:

@rpqu said:

@FAT32 said:
Is this the correct thread to shitpost

If you said so.

I am a bit bored

Hmm, want to start a drama?

How

1. Make megathread
2. @ peoples
3. ?
4. Drama

AlteredParadox

@FAT32 said:

@rpqu said:

@FAT32 said:
Is this the correct thread to shitpost

If you said so.

I am a bit bored

Hello DinoFriend!

host_c

@FAT32 said: Is this the correct thread to shitpost

It is

@FAT32 said: I am a bit bored

Same here, yet we are on hollyday, so we are bored doing stuff

@rpqu said: Hmm, want to start a drama?

OK, I am in, so.......

rpqu

@host_c said:

@rpqu said: Hmm, want to start a drama?

OK, I am in, so.......

Do you consent to release of @host_c (your subsidiary) cost structure analysis?

Daniel15

@allthemtings said:
I wonder at what point providers will choose to just close down over increasing pricing knowing a high majority of the users will cancel this seems to be the new norm i think only the big dogs will survive and probably set a new floor price. The era of lowend is coming to an close

I think a lot of low end providers will survive; the prices will just go up in line with the rest of the industry (~2-4x). Moreso than the massive providers, because the profit margins are a lot smaller. Electricity is also going up in price significantly, so services on existing hardware are likely to all go up too.

Maelstrom36

@Daniel15 said:

@allthemtings said:
I wonder at what point providers will choose to just close down over increasing pricing knowing a high majority of the users will cancel this seems to be the new norm i think only the big dogs will survive and probably set a new floor price. The era of lowend is coming to an close

I think a lot of low end providers will survive; the prices will just go up in line with the rest of the industry (~2-4x). Moreso than the massive providers, because the profit margins are a lot smaller. Electricity is also going up in price significantly, so services on existing hardware are likely to all go up too.

I think that's probably what will happen. The low end providers won't necessarily disappear. If hardware and power costs keep climbing, the whole market basically gets pushed up and the new norm ends up being a much higher floor price.

host_c

@rpqu said:

@host_c said:

@rpqu said: Hmm, want to start a drama?

OK, I am in, so.......

Do you consent to release of @host_c (your subsidiary) cost structure analysis?

Sure, that will be an interesting read , knock yourself out

rpqu

@host_c said:

@rpqu said:

@host_c said:

@rpqu said: Hmm, want to start a drama?

OK, I am in, so.......

Do you consent to release of @host_c (your subsidiary) cost structure analysis?

Sure, that will be an interesting read , knock yourself out

Ok, there's no turning back

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@rpqu said:

@FAT32 said:

@rpqu said:

@FAT32 said:

@rpqu said:

@FAT32 said:
Is this the correct thread to shitpost

If you said so.

I am a bit bored

Hmm, want to start a drama?

How

1. Make megathread
2. @ peoples
3. ?
4. Drama

This would be good: a "Host-C refugee Megathread, or Back to School Megathread".

host_c

@rpqu said:

@host_c said:

@rpqu said:

@host_c said:

@rpqu said: Hmm, want to start a drama?

OK, I am in, so.......

Do you consent to release of @host_c (your subsidiary) cost structure analysis?

Sure, that will be an interesting read , knock yourself out

Ok, there's no turning back

Oh boy, what have I unleashed?

nghialele

My service with Host-C isn't increasing, I think I'm safe, for now. Enjoying the service so far.

I hope things went well for everyone, and we don't get any of the price increase event anytime soon.

rpqu

@host_c said:

@rpqu said:

@host_c said:

@rpqu said:

@host_c said:

@rpqu said: Hmm, want to start a drama?

OK, I am in, so.......

Do you consent to release of @host_c (your subsidiary) cost structure analysis?

Sure, that will be an interesting read , knock yourself out

Ok, there's no turning back

Oh boy, what have I unleashed?

@host_c cost structure report thread. With option to escalate to approximated annual net income (loss) under old and new normal (ramflation)

host_c

@AlteredParadox

Man, I completely forgot about his.....

"Whip the Llama's Ass"

Hope you are 19 and will soon release something like winamp, cheers!

AlteredParadox

@host_c said:
@AlteredParadox

Man, I completely forgot about his.....

"Whip the Llama's Ass"

Hope you are 19 and will soon release something like winamp, cheers!

I still randomly play that intro from time to time, winamp was great

host_c

@AlteredParadox said:

@host_c said:
@AlteredParadox

Man, I completely forgot about his.....

"Whip the Llama's Ass"

Hope you are 19 and will soon release something like winamp, cheers!

I still randomly play that intro from time to time, winamp was great

It truly was.... damn, good times.....

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@host_c said:

@AlteredParadox said:

@host_c said:
@AlteredParadox

Man, I completely forgot about his.....

"Whip the Llama's Ass"

Hope you are 19 and will soon release something like winamp, cheers!

I still randomly play that intro from time to time, winamp was great

It truly was.... damn, good times.....

To reproduce those times nowadays:

1. Use a Linux desktop because Linux is better (in my opinion)
2. Install Audacious (you can install this on Windows too)
3. For Linux, copy the Winamp .wsz skin from archive.org into /usr/share/audacious/Skins
4. Enjoy (Winamp) Audacious with Winamp skin to preserve that old feeling.

AlteredParadox

Hello. What is happening in @host_c land?

host_c

@AlteredParadox said: Hello. What is happening in @host_c land?

Summer Hollidays, nothing much right now....

host_c

@AlteredParadox

I will update the above, this is getting ridiculous

612 USD for a 1.8TB SAS 10K RPM drive??? WTF

870 USD for a 12TB SAS 7.2K RPM drive?? the fuq, and only 12Mo warranty??

Prices are TAX and Shipping excluded.

what is next? 128 USD for a 128 GB USB Drive? I fuqing hate this economy.....

I shall not say a word about DDR5 ECC

5470 USD for 96 GB DDR5 ECC Reg ( PC5-44800 )

Time to dig up the DDR3 and DDR2 platforms.......

I this job bar, yes I do

Cheers!

@rpqu & @jsg - any hints on the bright future ahead?

rpqu

@host_c said:
@rpqu & @jsg - any hints on the bright future ahead?

Sadly, no. I have posted link on the cest pit from trendforce.com. Monthly shipment is down. Price goes up.
https://www.trendforce.com/news/2026/09/01/news-hbm3e-spot-prices-said-to-be-4-5x-lta-levels-with-samsung-reportedly-locking-70-of-memory-capacity-through-2031/
So, Samsung and many other upstream are purposefully reducing the production volume or hoarding it so price goes up -> more people sign up for LTAs.

Next year, Vera rubin will provide token generation 10-18x of GB300. So, Just imagine 1 racks with 2x the capex and 2x the TDP could generate 10 racks equivalent of current gen.

host_c

Actually, I dropped my marbles, o customer of ours needs 4 U3 NVME drives, they don't like getting used stuff so they asked for new.

57921 USD + TAX, now I did send the mail to them, most probably by now they went with getting a Porsche for themselves rather then what they need .

Fuq me times N...... where the heck did we put that LGA 771 HP G5's?........

rpqu

@host_c said:
Actually, I dropped my marbles, o customer of ours needs 4 U3 NVME drives, they don't like getting used stuff so they asked for new.

57921 USD + TAX, now I did send the mail to them, most probably by now they went with getting a Porsche for themselves rather then what they need .

Fuq me times N...... where the heck did we put that LGA 771 HP G5's?........

Might as well use DDR4 ramdisk.

Edit: last time I check DDR4 is faster than typical NVME ( I don't know about it against HBF)

forest

@rpqu said: Edit: last time I check DDR4 is faster than typical NVME ( I don't know about it against HBF)

s/HBF/HBM/ I guess? It's still faster. Even old RAM is quite fast, especially under write-heavy workloads.

rpqu

@forest said:

@rpqu said: Edit: last time I check DDR4 is faster than typical NVME ( I don't know about it against HBF)

s/HBF/HBM/ I guess? It's still faster. Even old RAM is quite fast, especially under write-heavy workloads.

HBF/M is High Bandwidth Flash/Memory. The difference is one it's a flash, non-volatile. While the other is equivalent to RAM.
If this crisis persist, someone is going to make module which uses DDR2/DDR3/DDR4 for storage + HDD slave

forest

@rpqu said:

@forest said:

@rpqu said: Edit: last time I check DDR4 is faster than typical NVME ( I don't know about it against HBF)

s/HBF/HBM/ I guess? It's still faster. Even old RAM is quite fast, especially under write-heavy workloads.

HBF/M is High Bandwidth Flash/Memory. The difference is one it's a flash, non-volatile. While the other is equivalent to RAM.
If this crisis persist, someone is going to make module which uses DDR2/DDR3/DDR4 for storage + HDD slave

Oops, I got that mixed up. Somehow thought you said HBM but meant HBF.

rpqu

@forest said:

@rpqu said:

@forest said:

@rpqu said: Edit: last time I check DDR4 is faster than typical NVME ( I don't know about it against HBF)

s/HBF/HBM/ I guess? It's still faster. Even old RAM is quite fast, especially under write-heavy workloads.

HBF/M is High Bandwidth Flash/Memory. The difference is one it's a flash, non-volatile. While the other is equivalent to RAM.
If this crisis persist, someone is going to make module which uses DDR2/DDR3/DDR4 for storage + HDD slave

Oops, I got that mixed up. Somehow thought you said HBM but meant HBF.

No worries. What do you think about stripping volatile memory module from GPU and other embedded system?

forest

@rpqu said: What do you think about stripping volatile memory module from GPU and other embedded system?

Those are optimized for throughput rather than latency, so it might not be a great replacement for a server's memory.

rpqu

@forest said:
Those are optimized for throughput rather than latency, so it might not be a great replacement for a server's memory.

I mean for the purpose of replacing current gen nvme. Those which require up to 1e6 iops