servaRICA - Black Friday 2024 - Dedicated servers , Unified Plans and Storage , Incredible

servarica_hani

@sitss said:

@servarica_hani said:

@sitss said:
@servarica_hani can i do an early renewal of my existing VDSs and upgrade/change to this promo? tnx

open a ticket mostly will give you new vps and you handle data transfer

can this done thru temp snapshot?

Honestly the team will be able to suggest best solution
usually they know about these processes more than me

servarica_hani

@nick_ said:
Fat and Slim plans are different only at the storage size while the hardware is exactly the same? If so, the 16GB slim plan is the 8GB fat plan killer. $2 more for 2x RAM, CPU, and bandwidth.

yeah the only diffrence is the the slice NVMe storage everything else is the same
and yes you can find some configs are much cheaper than others depending on your needs

servarica_hani

@zed3473 said:
Opossum 1: 1GB RAM, 1 core, 1TB HDD, 4TB @ 1Gbps, 1 IPv4 = $29/year (Order Here) How is excess traffic calculated and is there a speed limit?

yes will switch 10mbps

servarica_hani

@MaxTakeba said:

Just need to get AMD-V turned on which I've already sent a ticket for. Not bad to be honest... I hate XEN and I have a feeling the NVME is being held back a little (by the software raid in the VM on top of the overhead of it being in a VM and everyone else).

You are correct 100%
Xen is great for many many features that are not available on kvm out of box
but disk performance is not their strong point

Those NVMe on the server have read 1210000 IOPS and 480K write IOPS
and on some cases we run 4 or 5 vms per server
but the VM cannot do fraction of that

to be honest in real word situation it was never that we saw an application being much slower due to disk speed on nvme
So it seems it only for yabs that it does not show good numbers

That being said we are working on a project to rewrite good chunk of storage code in xen but it is not easy task so dont have ETA about it yet

servarica_hani

@smajl said:
Is it possible to add slices later on?

yes as long as we have stock
but within like 2 or 3 weeks I would say we will definitely have some but if you are talking about 1 year from now then it depend on that time

servarica_hani

@cotc said:

@itsTomHarper said:

@cotc said:
YABS for Unified Slim Plan 8 Slice

fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/mapper/unified--nvme-main):

Block Size	4k (IOPS)	64k (IOPS)
Read	24.01 MB/s (6.0k)	166.59 MB/s (2.6k)
Write	24.02 MB/s (6.0k)	167.47 MB/s (2.6k)
Total	48.03 MB/s (12.0k)	334.07 MB/s (5.2k)
Block Size	512k (IOPS)	1m (IOPS)
------	--- ----	---- ----
Read	239.15 MB/s (467)	244.85 MB/s (239)
Write	251.86 MB/s (491)	261.15 MB/s (255)
Total	491.02 MB/s (958)	506.00 MB/s (494)

Isn't the disk supposed to be nvme?

yep, it's slow. the disk speed tests result is very similiar compared to HDD Storage VPS from other provider.

@servarica_hani should I open a ticket?

yes open a ticket but dont expect same number as KVM based VPS , xen does not get same numbers although the hardware here is excellent

We are working on perminant fix for this but it is still in very early stages

servarica_hani

@churongcon said:
Hello I buy SSD NVME but it show HDD disk

The disk is nvme but i am not sure how windows will show it as in xen the drive you see in windows in called tapdisk which is software layer between the actual nvme and your windows VPS

servarica_hani

@RayRedd said:
is there any free additional bandwidth limit offer for dedicated servers?

which server you are looking for
for greyhound servers we can switch to unlimited 1gbps if that of interest to the users here

seedmonster

The only thing I need from the new Unified package is to be nested virtualization. Can it be enable or not? Thx!

sanvit

Until when will this offer be available? And are the cores dedicated (can I do 100% 24/7 using plex for example)?

Thank you

MaxTakeba

@servarica_hani said:

@MaxTakeba said:

Just need to get AMD-V turned on which I've already sent a ticket for. Not bad to be honest... I hate XEN and I have a feeling the NVME is being held back a little (by the software raid in the VM on top of the overhead of it being in a VM and everyone else).

You are correct 100%
Xen is great for many many features that are not available on kvm out of box
but disk performance is not their strong point

Those NVMe on the server have read 1210000 IOPS and 480K write IOPS
and on some cases we run 4 or 5 vms per server
but the VM cannot do fraction of that

to be honest in real word situation it was never that we saw an application being much slower due to disk speed on nvme
So it seems it only for yabs that it does not show good numbers

That being said we are working on a project to rewrite good chunk of storage code in xen but it is not easy task so dont have ETA about it yet

Is Xen worth keeping? You're probably right, I wouldn't see the inefficiency issues. But statistically speaking, the nvme disks in that yabs test was performing like a SAS SSD would.

Plus the way OS installers see the nvme storage as 64GB blocks (that I need to create a LVM and make it one volume) really threw me off when I manually reinstalled Debian (sorry I don't trust templates, it's just how I roll).

Hyper-V is just as bad with storage performance too.

servarica_hani

@seedmonster said:
The only thing I need from the new Unified package is to be nested virtualization. Can it be enable or not? Thx!

Unfortunately we did a test and there is exceptions in the hypervisor
we are debugging but so far nested virtualizationdoes not work

servarica_hani

@sanvit said:
Until when will this offer be available? And are the cores dedicated (can I do 100% 24/7 using plex for example)?

Thank you

till quantity last
so within 3 weeks i think we will have stock for sure
after that it depend on how many orders we will get or if we will reorder new hardware

dev_vps

@servarica_hani said:

@churongcon said:
Hello I buy SSD NVME but it show HDD disk

The disk is nvme but i am not sure how windows will show it as in xen the drive you see in windows in called tapdisk which is software layer between the actual nvme and your windows VPS

For Windows Server OS, Hyper-V and KVM virtualizations are better than Xen

servarica_hani

@MaxTakeba said:

@servarica_hani said:

@MaxTakeba said:

Just need to get AMD-V turned on which I've already sent a ticket for. Not bad to be honest... I hate XEN and I have a feeling the NVME is being held back a little (by the software raid in the VM on top of the overhead of it being in a VM and everyone else).

You are correct 100%
Xen is great for many many features that are not available on kvm out of box
but disk performance is not their strong point

Those NVMe on the server have read 1210000 IOPS and 480K write IOPS
and on some cases we run 4 or 5 vms per server
but the VM cannot do fraction of that

to be honest in real word situation it was never that we saw an application being much slower due to disk speed on nvme
So it seems it only for yabs that it does not show good numbers

That being said we are working on a project to rewrite good chunk of storage code in xen but it is not easy task so dont have ETA about it yet

Is Xen worth keeping? You're probably right, I wouldn't see the inefficiency issues. But statistically speaking, the nvme disks in that yabs test was performing like a SAS SSD would.

Plus the way OS installers see the nvme storage as 64GB blocks (that I need to create a LVM and make it one volume) really threw me off when I manually reinstalled Debian (sorry I don't trust templates, it's just how I roll).

Hyper-V is just as bad with storage performance too.

Hyper-V and xcp have very similar storage stack , so i wouldnt be surprised if it perform the same

it is the other tools and stability that sell it for us
we have some vms up for years with zero issues
So the disk performance was in the past not that big of the deal before the the new generations of nvme so we were ok with it as the diff was like 20% in performance
now with many NVMe reaching more than 1M IOPS this issue started to be big issue and we need to fix it or even switch to KVM for nvme based vms

servarica_hani

@dev_vps said:

@servarica_hani said:

@churongcon said:
Hello I buy SSD NVME but it show HDD disk

The disk is nvme but i am not sure how windows will show it as in xen the drive you see in windows in called tapdisk which is software layer between the actual nvme and your windows VPS

For Windows Server OS, Hyper-V and KVM virtualizations are better than Xen

@churongcon
if you install windows yourself make sure to install xcp tools
ask the team to mount the iso there
it will give you better driver for network and disk
you will see the diff

Thanks

slantgolf

@discocat said:

@slantgolf said:
@servarica_hani and others. :0
It seems that servarica's website is different than what was posted here. Specifically the storage for the Greyhound. It shows 2 12TB HDD. However, support said that is incorrect.

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Ah thanks for flagging - was about to order that exact server for the storage!

@servarica_hani was fantastic to talk with and explained the Greyhound servers physically cannot handle that drive count. However, in another 2 months approximately there will be another round of new servers so stay tuned.

gemini_geek

anyone got disk IO benchmark on SAN disk ? IOPS limit/expectation ?

MaxTakeba

@servarica_hani said:

@MaxTakeba said:

@servarica_hani said:

@MaxTakeba said:

Just need to get AMD-V turned on which I've already sent a ticket for. Not bad to be honest... I hate XEN and I have a feeling the NVME is being held back a little (by the software raid in the VM on top of the overhead of it being in a VM and everyone else).

You are correct 100%
Xen is great for many many features that are not available on kvm out of box
but disk performance is not their strong point

Those NVMe on the server have read 1210000 IOPS and 480K write IOPS
and on some cases we run 4 or 5 vms per server
but the VM cannot do fraction of that

to be honest in real word situation it was never that we saw an application being much slower due to disk speed on nvme
So it seems it only for yabs that it does not show good numbers

That being said we are working on a project to rewrite good chunk of storage code in xen but it is not easy task so dont have ETA about it yet

Is Xen worth keeping? You're probably right, I wouldn't see the inefficiency issues. But statistically speaking, the nvme disks in that yabs test was performing like a SAS SSD would.

Plus the way OS installers see the nvme storage as 64GB blocks (that I need to create a LVM and make it one volume) really threw me off when I manually reinstalled Debian (sorry I don't trust templates, it's just how I roll).

Hyper-V is just as bad with storage performance too.

Hyper-V and xcp have very similar storage stack , so i wouldnt be surprised if it perform the same

it is the other tools and stability that sell it for us
we have some vms up for years with zero issues
So the disk performance was in the past not that big of the deal before the the new generations of nvme so we were ok with it as the diff was like 20% in performance
now with many NVMe reaching more than 1M IOPS this issue started to be big issue and we need to fix it or even switch to KVM for nvme based vms

If you do switch to kvm based solutions (e.g proxmox) I would love to be a beta tester

MaxTakeba

@gemini_geek said:
anyone got disk IO benchmark on SAN disk ? IOPS limit/expectation ?

Give me half an hour. Just on my way home.

bbn12

hard check on ordering IP/address.... it's a NO for Canada location for me

JamesOakley

@servarica_hani - so far very happy. A couple of little issues to iron out, but Sathish, Hari and Gokul have been absolutely superb helping me with two tickets, and now everything is working well. Good service, and you've got a good team.

MaxTakeba

@gemini_geek said:
anyone got disk IO benchmark on SAN disk ? IOPS limit/expectation ?

Apologies, ended up making lunch.
Here's a 1Mib sequential write.

sudo fio --name=random-write --ioengine=posixaio --rw=randwrite --bs=1m --size=16g --numjobs=1 --iodepth=1 --runtime=60 --time_based --end_fsync=1
random-write: (g=0): rw=randwrite, bs=(R) 1024KiB-1024KiB, (W) 1024KiB-1024KiB, (T) 1024KiB-1024KiB, ioengine=posixaio, iodepth=1
fio-3.33
Starting 1 process
random-write: Laying out IO file (1 file / 16384MiB)
Jobs: 1 (f=1): [F(1)][100.0%][eta 00m:00s]
random-write: (groupid=0, jobs=1): err= 0: pid=62592: Thu Nov 28 18:11:58 2024
write: IOPS=167, BW=168MiB/s (176MB/s)(11.0GiB/67015msec); 0 zone resets
slat (usec): min=18, max=1519, avg=53.85, stdev=58.25
clat (usec): min=541, max=64151, avg=5274.63, stdev=6087.86
lat (usec): min=565, max=64195, avg=5328.48, stdev=6086.96
clat percentiles (usec):
| 1.00th=[ 619], 5.00th=[ 676], 10.00th=[ 971], 20.00th=[ 1188],
| 30.00th=[ 1237], 40.00th=[ 1287], 50.00th=[ 1418], 60.00th=[ 2024],
| 70.00th=[ 9765], 80.00th=[12125], 90.00th=[14877], 95.00th=[16188],
| 99.00th=[21103], 99.50th=[22938], 99.90th=[26346], 99.95th=[30802],
| 99.99th=[61080]
bw ( KiB/s): min=61440, max=1348982, per=100.00%, avg=192097.21, stdev=135482.04, samples=119
iops : min= 60, max= 1317, avg=187.47, stdev=132.29, samples=119
lat (usec) : 750=8.87%, 1000=1.20%
lat (msec) : 2=49.79%, 4=8.26%, 10=2.32%, 20=27.86%, 50=1.68%
lat (msec) : 100=0.02%
cpu : usr=1.02%, sys=0.37%, ctx=19061, majf=0, minf=23
IO depths : 1=100.0%, 2=0.0%, 4=0.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
submit : 0=0.0%, 4=100.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, 64=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
complete : 0=0.0%, 4=100.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, 64=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
issued rwts: total=0,11244,0,0 short=0,0,0,0 dropped=0,0,0,0
latency : target=0, window=0, percentile=100.00%, depth=1

Run status group 0 (all jobs):
WRITE: bw=168MiB/s (176MB/s), 168MiB/s-168MiB/s (176MB/s-176MB/s), io=11.0GiB (11.8GB), run=67015-67015msec

Disk stats (read/write):
xvdg: ios=0/267336, merge=0/584, ticks=0/1426312, in_queue=1426345, util=94.14%

Lightsoul

vps give us only Canada, is it possible to switch to another location?

churongcon

@servarica_hani said:

@dev_vps said:

@servarica_hani said:

@churongcon said:
Hello I buy SSD NVME but it show HDD disk

The disk is nvme but i am not sure how windows will show it as in xen the drive you see in windows in called tapdisk which is software layer between the actual nvme and your windows VPS

For Windows Server OS, Hyper-V and KVM virtualizations are better than Xen

@churongcon
if you install windows yourself make sure to install xcp tools
ask the team to mount the iso there
it will give you better driver for network and disk
you will see the diff

Thanks

Hello I dont install by myself. I choose Windows 2022 when bought from website

rid

@servarica_hani Unable to purchase due to credit card and physical location not the same. I'm now on an overseas trip and will not be back until 2 weeks later. Any way to resolve this? Support not responding.

rid

@rid said:
@servarica_hani Unable to purchase due to credit card and physical location not the same. I'm now on an overseas trip and will not be back until 2 weeks later. Any way to resolve this? Support not responding.

Support manually reversed the order cancellation and the payment went through. Good service!

mitnick2

@bbn12 said:
hard check on ordering IP/address.... it's a NO for Canada location for me

i use it from Europe, and its fine.. u are developing games? lag is around 100-110ms

simwiki

nice offer

bbn12

@mitnick2 said:

@bbn12 said:
hard check on ordering IP/address.... it's a NO for Canada location for me

i use it from Europe, and its fine.. u are developing games? lag is around 100-110ms

cancelled my order due to loc/IP... no, not for gaming