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WHMCS 20% price increase

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  • alfatarsosalfatarsos Member, Host Rep

    @sandoz said:

    @zmeu said:
    who still use WHMCS?

    Many providers still using them, why changing something that is working?

    @alfatarsos said:

    @layer7 said:

    @alfatarsos said:
    Glad I moved...

    Hi,

    moving where?

    We went to WiseCP :)

    Uhhh, WiseCP is not good for who already have many customers. Where is the Proxmox module? Domain Registrars? Weak.

    Hostbill / Blesta is the key.
    WiseCP > Good for small companies only.

    Proxmox module can be done manually, as they had to be done for WHMCS, mind you.

    Domain Registrars you already have them there and they are growing.

    And regarding that "many customers" sentence - source?

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    Both Namecrane & BuyVM offer fairly discounted WHMCS licenses.

    They'll go up in January, but it's still quite a bit cheaper than retail.

    Francisco

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  • zmeuzmeu Member
    edited October 9

    @Francisco said: discounted WHMCS licenses

    and - what is the uptime for webhosting plans?

    https://whmcs.community/topic/342340-refunded-card-payment-and-look-at-the-date :+1:

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  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @zmeu said: and - what is the uptime for webhosting plans?

    well, better once we get the redundant router in LUX :)

    Generally shared is 99.99%. You can check https://status.namecrane.com/ to see.

    If you want it on a VPS you can do it via BuyVM, it's the same price.

    Francisco

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  • emghemgh Member, BF Ambassador

    @Francisco said: well, better once we get the redundant router in LUX

    Honestly that's great but I'm more disappointed in the fact that it took so long for LuxConnect to sort you out.. shit happens with hardware as you know.

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  • zmeuzmeu Member

    @Francisco said: 99.99%

    If I'm going to use Cloudflare as backend - which ones are good ?

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @emgh said: Honestly that's great but I'm more disappointed in the fact that it took so long for LuxConnect to sort you out.. shit happens with hardware as you know.

    LUXCONNECT never sorted us. I basically had to run the gauntlet through 10 years of emails to find the phone number of one of the root workers. He was able to pickup and help us out.

    I talked to them and asked why we were getting ignored and it seems they've added new support priority queues and we were never offered the higher one. They saw my ticket right away, but they claimed they were busy doing something else.

    I've asked to for a contract for the higher/top priority since it's silly to be in the 'when we feel like it' queue.

    Francisco

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  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @zmeu said: If I'm going to use Cloudflare as backend - which ones are good ?

    You can check the status page. It's 3rd party hetrix. We do 1 minute probes (this is disclosed to you if you click in).

    All locations are good. If it wasn't for the router mishap yesterday then LUX would be in the same uptime percentile as the rest.

    Francisco

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  • emghemgh Member, BF Ambassador
    edited October 9

    Woah, doing that without even letting clients know about it... I hope you end up getting it fixed without any further headaches :)

    Thanks for sharing

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  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @emgh said: Woah, doing that without even letting clients know about it... I hope you end up getting it fixed without any further headaches

    >

    When I get a working example of the router setup i'll do a maintenance time. I think we can do it without it getting overly bumpy. For the most part it'll be short ~30s cutovers while spanning tree sorts itself out.

    Francisco

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  • SaahibSaahib Host Rep, Veteran

    @zmeu, there is dedicated thread for buyvm Lux issue

  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @raindog308 published an article about the cPanel and WHMCS price increases on LowEndBox... look at the 2 year change in price in percentage terms... wow.

    https://lowendbox.com/blog/whmcs-and-cpanel-prices-going-up-by-5-10-keep-guessing/

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  • zmeuzmeu Member

  • iOVZiOVZ Member, Host Rep

    @jfreak53 said:

    @zmeu said:
    HE.net it doesnt use any billing, they sent invoices manually.

    I believe it, their website looks like last time they invested into it was 1999 😂

    I have to say that their customer center is actually simple and effective. My colleagues and I really like it.

  • iOVZiOVZ Member, Host Rep

    The billing system of WHMCS is unbearable for me. It's difficult to efficiently obtain useful information from the billing list of each client, and it fails to clearly display the actual transaction flow. Fortunately, we have a complete product suite from local IDC software company to choose from. They provide everything from the virtualization system to the business system, all from one company, and at a lower price.

  • edited October 10

    What are peoples opinions on Blesta as an alternative? Looks like I can import all my WHMCS customers and plans.

    It appears to have all the modules that I need. A big plus is that it's not obfuscated so I can go in and customize or fix stuff if I need to.

  • zmeuzmeu Member
    edited October 10

    @LosPollosHermanos said: Blesta as an alternative

    it all depends on what are you expecting from a billing system - we're also moving away from WHMCS.

  • edited October 10

    @zmeu said:

    @LosPollosHermanos said: Blesta as an alternative

    it all depends on what are you expecting from a billing system - we're also moving away from WHMCS.

    I expect a billing system like WHMCS but just the basics. I don't need all the bells and whistles. Since Blesta is not obfuscated I can probably code any edge case issues that come up myself since I know PHP and Javascript fairly well. With WHMCS it's all obfuscated, so I am 100% reliant on support.

  • zmeuzmeu Member

    In 🇷🇴 Romania any billing systems (excl. HostBill) are useless because they are not compliant with E-Invoicing [1]. For our UK companies we have in plan to go with Blesta, since there we're only do invoicing for networking stuffs.

    [1] https://hostbillapp.com/features/apps/xml_ubl/

  • I don't get how Hostbill doesn't get more customers, their product is quite solid and has a lot of plugins included. The pricing is clear, you invest one time and then you pay the maintainance fee which is quite reasonable.
    You have to pay for support tickets but that sounds like the best option, why pay monthly for "support" that is non existent at whmcs. Hostbill you pay per ticket but you have a real followup.
    Also they keep on adding features all the time.

  • RapToNRapToN Member, Host Rep

    @netswitch said:
    I don't get how Hostbill doesn't get more customers, their product is quite solid and has a lot of plugins included. The pricing is clear, you invest one time and then you pay the maintainance fee which is quite reasonable.
    You have to pay for support tickets but that sounds like the best option, why pay monthly for "support" that is non existent at whmcs. Hostbill you pay per ticket but you have a real followup.
    Also they keep on adding features all the time.

    Do you use HostBill?

    At least 5 years ago, I helped a company switch to HostBill and realised how much more money than expected you can spend if you don't inform yourself well in advance.
    I would be interested to know whether this is a typical problem or whether it was due to the specifics of the project.

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  • Whmcs has monopoly because there isnt any good alternative with the same dev community, translation, customs.. it s the most complete

  • EthernetServersEthernetServers Member, Patron Provider

    https://blog.hostbillapp.com/2024/10/14/migration-to-hostbill-what-to-expect-and-how-to-proceed/

    Posted yesterday, well worth a read for anyone looking to migrate.

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  • haryhary Member

    Looking for cheap owned blesta unbranded :wink:

  • @layer7 said:

    @jsg said:
    I'm again a bit surprised. After all LET is a place where really many providers are. So, quick question: Why not building a purpose community of providers who all together finance some developer(s) with experience to build a good solution? (and possibly earn more than just covering the cost by selling a good "made by providers for providers" product and WHMCS alternative) ...

    Hi,

    what?!?! Solving a problem together as community by organizing sense-fully?

    Come on... we are in 2024... dont expect too much :p

    Joke aside:

    Rebuilding something similar to WHMCS will take thousands of hours.

    Even only the integration of the top 20 payment gateways will take hundreds of hours. So only this is a middle 4-5 digit amount of money in EUR or USD currency.

    Or you just pay 5 cent per active customer...

    Once we reach 5 EUR / active customer, we might get slowly to the point where it makes economically sense to build something on your own or as crowd.

    But 5 cent... i mean we have no other supplier that let us pay less for a core ability of the company. Which means that WHMCS is by far the smallest invoice we have to pay per month. So before i make a new billing panel, i will open my own datacenter. Would make much more sense for the ROI.

    The solution is to develop a new platform that is compatible with current WHMCS modules

  • RadiRadi Host Rep, Veteran

    @iOVZ said:
    Fortunately, we have a complete product suite from local IDC software company to choose from. They provide everything from the virtualization system to the business system, all from one company, and at a lower price.

    Which company?

  • host_chost_c Member, Patron Provider, BF Ambassador

    @zmeu said:
    In 🇷🇴 Romania any billing systems (excl. HostBill) are useless because they are not compliant with E-Invoicing [1]. For our UK companies we have in plan to go with Blesta, since there we're only do invoicing for networking stuffs.

    [1] https://hostbillapp.com/features/apps/xml_ubl/

    I have nothing with the 1 time price + support after the first year, fine by me.

    1600 USD 4 Life for Data Center Edition is not that much, even 999 USD for Enterprise is a Good option.

    But 1 support ticket = 89 USD?? wtf???? :D ( after you deplete the X number you have / year on your plan )

    I can get away with 10,20 heck, even 30 USD.

    Is that product that good and has almost no issues/bugs/rats ( if correctly set up )??

  • zmeuzmeu Member

    @host_c almost all billing software does it have flaws. :lol:

    For UK I ended up by using Blesta - only invoicing
    For RO with WHMCS - forced by Law to use E-Factura (aka e-invoicing)

    By the way, I had 0 tickets while I was with WHMCS. :-)

  • host_chost_c Member, Patron Provider, BF Ambassador

    @zmeu said: By the way, I had 0 tickets while I was with WHMCS. :-)

    :D :D :D

    Update us when you have 3-5 modules in it and 1K customers at least :D

    I am still looking into HostBill. Seems nice....... hmmm.......

  • zmeuzmeu Member
    edited October 17

    @host_c said: Update us when you have 3-5 modules in it and 1K customers at least :D

    we have our own plugins for WHMCS :lol: the issue can be related to ModulesGarden or who was made it.

    eg RoTLD and Reseller plugin from them are outdated for Blesta and WHMCS, you have to downgrade.

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