Netcup CPU Steal and The Low Quality of Support

dev_vps

@riomartin said:

@AXYZE said:
Why are you guys watching compressed 1080p/4K YouTube via compressed and very blocky VNC/RDP with framedrops?

Is it too good quality to watch it directly on your machine and you need completely destroyed 1080p/4K streams?

My purpose is to bring the lightest thin device with you on mobile position, without thinking to bring heavy and bulky one like tablet or thin laptops above 1kg

Then use VPN.

riomartin

@dev_vps said:

@riomartin said:

@dev_vps said:
@riomartin
Running apps through WINE on Linux based OS will be always resource consuming as compared to running natively on Windows Server OS

I will let you google for the cause and reasons.

I had done tons of trials and errors Buddy

I doubt if anyone has done even 50% of tests done by me on LET with respect to testing Windows Server based VPS.
Feel free to ask around. 😀

since Cheapwindowsvps still offers Windows VPS only back in 2015/2016.

I don’t recommend this provider.

And second, as my last screenshot, if I load Youtube and stream from Native app Firefox-ESR under Debian 12 xfce it wont get as smooth as Edge with Wine loaded.

if you use wine on linux vps, especially on low end, there is a strong chance your VPS will be limited. Check with @rsk

Windows is just for fun, the future might be having Windows not as native but on the top of Virtualization.

I program in Windows for my work and has been doing for many decades. This includes working in financial institutions ranked within top 5 worldwide rankings.

And I had compared everything.

I highly doubt it. If I am not wrong, you were having difficulty even installing the OS on a premium provider’s panel.

— programming in Windows OS since NT days

You might have decades in programming
but when speaking of MT4, you were not sharing any information regarding it.

WHen you compare Native MT4 under Windows Server vs Wine MT4 on Linux,
perhaps the limitation of app zero respond for 5-10 minutes waiting for movement of candles reading in 1 minutes and 5 minutes will make sense of you why I prefer to load this thing under Linux compared to Windows Server

dev_vps

@riomartin said:

@dev_vps said:

@riomartin said:

@dev_vps said:
@riomartin
Running apps through WINE on Linux based OS will be always resource consuming as compared to running natively on Windows Server OS

I will let you google for the cause and reasons.

I had done tons of trials and errors Buddy

I doubt if anyone has done even 50% of tests done by me on LET with respect to testing Windows Server based VPS.
Feel free to ask around. 😀

since Cheapwindowsvps still offers Windows VPS only back in 2015/2016.

I don’t recommend this provider.

And second, as my last screenshot, if I load Youtube and stream from Native app Firefox-ESR under Debian 12 xfce it wont get as smooth as Edge with Wine loaded.

if you use wine on linux vps, especially on low end, there is a strong chance your VPS will be limited. Check with @rsk

Windows is just for fun, the future might be having Windows not as native but on the top of Virtualization.

I program in Windows for my work and has been doing for many decades. This includes working in financial institutions ranked within top 5 worldwide rankings.

And I had compared everything.

I highly doubt it. If I am not wrong, you were having difficulty even installing the OS on a premium provider’s panel.

— programming in Windows OS since NT days

The Cheap Provider you did not recommend,
I played Youtube under Debian 12 + Xfce4 + Wine + Edge on their $3 without any issues

So yeah, what else I should complaint ?

All that matters is that you are happy.
you should not be bothered that there are much better offers.

dev_vps

@riomartin said:

@dev_vps said:

@riomartin said:

@dev_vps said:
@riomartin
Running apps through WINE on Linux based OS will be always resource consuming as compared to running natively on Windows Server OS

I will let you google for the cause and reasons.

I had done tons of trials and errors Buddy

I doubt if anyone has done even 50% of tests done by me on LET with respect to testing Windows Server based VPS.
Feel free to ask around. 😀

since Cheapwindowsvps still offers Windows VPS only back in 2015/2016.

I don’t recommend this provider.

And second, as my last screenshot, if I load Youtube and stream from Native app Firefox-ESR under Debian 12 xfce it wont get as smooth as Edge with Wine loaded.

if you use wine on linux vps, especially on low end, there is a strong chance your VPS will be limited. Check with @rsk

Windows is just for fun, the future might be having Windows not as native but on the top of Virtualization.

I program in Windows for my work and has been doing for many decades. This includes working in financial institutions ranked within top 5 worldwide rankings.

And I had compared everything.

I highly doubt it. If I am not wrong, you were having difficulty even installing the OS on a premium provider’s panel.

— programming in Windows OS since NT days

You might have decades in programming
but when speaking of MT4, you were not sharing any information regarding it.

Read what folks are saying about their experience

https://www.forexpeacearmy.com/community/threads/mt4-under-wine.74223/

https://www.mql5.com/en/forum/282367

Some features in metaeditor also do not work, 
for example when you place the cursor over a function 
and press F1 it will not go to the actual page 
but just open help where on windows it will go to the 
actual help page with the function you wanted to pull up.

dev_vps

One more thing, @riomartin

You can send an email to MT Technical Support — which platform they recommend

Afterall, no one knows better than them. 😀

Personally, I do NOT use MT. My setup can run natively on any OS.

Moopah

There's host on LET with VPS that have shared iGPU if you actually need it

dev_vps

@Moopah said:
There's host on LET with VPS that have shared iGPU if you actually need it

Ryzen 7950x and Core i9 VPS are great for RDP.

Example
YouTube video playback at HD resolution, even with 1 vCore Ryzen. Imagine the power with 4x vCPU.

dev_vps

@riomartin said:

when speaking of MT4, you were not sharing any information regarding it.

Here you go @riomartin
Running MT5 on Windows RDP on tiny VPS 1 vCore / 2 gb ram

riomartin

@dev_vps said:

@riomartin said:

when speaking of MT4, you were not sharing any information regarding it.

Here you go @riomartin
Running MT5 on Windows RDP on tiny VPS 1 vCore / 2 gb ram

Your MT5 is more modern , more light , indicators more RAM friendly
My MT4 with upper chart indicators consists of MN 3indicators, W 3 indicators, D 3 indicators, H3 3 indicators will made the MT4 dizzy x 5 tabs

That is 1 pair only
I had 3 pairs to monitored, which is TradingView is absolutely different and this cannot be replaceable

And the lower chart consist of 2 indicators modified for VolumeSpreadAnalysis

All of those were indicators from year before 2010 and 2013.

I tested on LayerAE for 4C8GB, this MT4 no issues at all, both Debian and WindowsServer 2022.
Thanks for your references of Windows that solved the issues of playing Youtube so hard in the Linux Debian by using WIndows Server2022

Next I will try maybe at Layer7 for their AMD7350X and Xeon
Should be fun when I found out whats wrong with this situation

anyway, thanks for your references.

dev_vps

@riomartin said:

@dev_vps said:

@riomartin said:

when speaking of MT4, you were not sharing any information regarding it.

Here you go @riomartin
Running MT5 on Windows RDP on tiny VPS 1 vCore / 2 gb ram

Your MT5 is more modern , more light , indicators more RAM friendly
My MT4 with upper chart indicators consists of MN 3indicators, W 3 indicators, D 3 indicators, H3 3 indicators will made the MT4 dizzy x 5 tabs

My trading methodology is far simpler and driven by price action approach .... not personally big fan of so called "indicators"

anyway, thanks for your references.

you are welcome.

dev_vps

My favorite book
https://www.amazon.com/Naked-Forex-High-Probability-Techniques-Indicators/dp/1118114019

riomartin

@dev_vps said:
My favorite book
https://www.amazon.com/Naked-Forex-High-Probability-Techniques-Indicators/dp/1118114019

Everyone has their own methodology
as long as I am fine

I dont care others

As long as I am confident with Serverhost 1core 3GB running Debian for my youtube
I dont care others

Thank You for the references.

warih

@riomartin said:

@dev_vps said:
My favorite book
https://www.amazon.com/Naked-Forex-High-Probability-Techniques-Indicators/dp/1118114019

Everyone has their own methodology
as long as I am fine

I dont care others

As long as I am confident with Serverhost 1core 3GB running Debian for my youtube
I dont care others

Thank You for the references.

Which node location do you use on Serverhost?
Is the uptime good?

jsg

@riomartin said:
Is that all GERMAN VPS like this when behave supporting customers ?

Yes, due to a law requiring providers to let customers who open a negative thread on LET wait for 3 days.

More seriously:

It seems quite normal to see some "steal" on linux VPS but I can't comment on netcup specifically because I don't have a VPS with them but a VDS ("root server"). I've been perfectly happy with my netcup VM but have to confirm that while they are polite they seem to not always be too interested in small customers' (say less than 10 or so VMs) problems. I've also seen my share of "polite responses" from them (read "we don't care" but expressed in a formally polite way). More annoyingly though I've also experienced them to not care a flying f_ck about customers asking for anything outside their fixed "menu", not even when one has been a perfectly trouble-free customer for years.
Plus they tend to be quite bureaucratic which however seems to largely stem from german laws (plus netcup's desire to be on the 100% safe side).

So, the deal seems to basically boil down to "you get quite a lot for a really attractive price, but you have to cope with them being bureaucratic and quite ignorant at least towards small customers".

EDIT: After looking at the complete thread I'd like to apologize for disturbing your Windows vs. linux and x86 vs Arm private battle (and will from now on simply ignore your threads an posts).

TimboJones

@jsg said:

@riomartin said:
Is that all GERMAN VPS like this when behave supporting customers ?

Yes, due to a law requiring providers to let customers who open a negative thread on LET wait for 3 days.

I know you're trying to make a joke, but it doesn't work because he opened the thread after the three day wait, not the other way around.

As others pointed out, it was the weekend and he was expecting the work done on Friday, not Monday.

From his point of view, it's Friday afternoon, the tech agent should mention when the work would be done just as you would let your boss know if he gave you a task on a Friday that you wouldn't get to until Monday.

In many countries, ISPs handle critical infrastructure and wouldn't expect a large service provider not to have 24/7 support. But support hours are clearly advertised, so root issue is OP picked wrong provider. It's especially bad since he didn't fucking notice until pointed out a full week later.