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  • xvpsxvps Member
    edited June 11

    @lowendtalkxdax said:

    @Jofre said:

    @lowendtalkxdax said:

    @Jofre said:
    I reported the scam and PayPal ruled in my favour today at 8am. So im guessing it was automatic and his account got banned or something, luckily they will get their money back even if they paid f&f

    How did up you report it? Usually their support tells you F&F is irreversible.

    I did not pay f&f, he asked for it and i just assumed it was for the fee, so i sent extra money to account for it without asking, so i was extremely lucky i guess.

    Though, if the account is suspended (as it most likely is, as my case was resolved instantly at 8am) the ones that paid with f&f can try to say they do not recognize the charge in paypal, i think that everything against a baned account is automatically accepted.

    Saying that you don’t recognize the charge is smart!

    Yes, it's real smart to try to scam PayPal. :D

  • angstromangstrom Moderator

    @xvps said:

    @lowendtalkxdax said:

    @Jofre said:

    @lowendtalkxdax said:

    @Jofre said:
    I reported the scam and PayPal ruled in my favour today at 8am. So im guessing it was automatic and his account got banned or something, luckily they will get their money back even if they paid f&f

    How did up you report it? Usually their support tells you F&F is irreversible.

    I did not pay f&f, he asked for it and i just assumed it was for the fee, so i sent extra money to account for it without asking, so i was extremely lucky i guess.

    Though, if the account is suspended (as it most likely is, as my case was resolved instantly at 8am) the ones that paid with f&f can try to say they do not recognize the charge in paypal, i think that everything against a baned account is automatically accepted.

    Saying that you don’t recognize the charge is smart!

    Yes, it's real smart to try to scam PayPal. :D

    Indeed, it wouldn't be advisable to lie to PayPal (in this way or in any other way)

  • Oh f*CK, I'm so sorry if my post at the start of this thread helped convince someone to get scammed. I'd have fallen for it in an instant if I hadn't got too much redundant storage already...😬

    Thanked by 2Jofre stxsh
  • stxshstxsh Member

    @CloudHopper said:
    Sounds like someone is in for a steal.

    :o

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @CloudHopper said:
    Sounds like someone is in for a steal.

    This statement is correct.
    OP was in for a steal, from unsuspecting members.

  • Yeah, I'm literally robbing @labze with the price I'm paying him, (I have one from the second round with IPv6 only for €55 p/y), so in my mind it's "a steal". In fact, I'm not ashamed to say that I brag about it in the real world.

    I had no clue the OP was a thief though. I was really tempted to be their first victim there 😲

  • xvpsxvps Member

    Look at it on the bright side.
    This kind of overselling don't affect other customers on the server.

    In other words, it is zero steal overselling™. 🙃

    Thanked by 1yoursunny
  • JasonMJasonM Member

    what happens if we pay by Paypal for such service transfer and the seller runs away with the money. How can we chargeback/open case for refund from Paypal?

  • @JasonM said:
    what happens if we pay by Paypal for such service transfer and the seller runs away with the money. How can we chargeback/open case for refund from Paypal?

    If F&F, you money is gone forever, unless you lie to PayPal saying your account got accessed by someone other then you.

    Thanked by 1JasonM
  • ValenerdValenerd Member
    edited June 12

    I can confirm. I made f&f payment and money are gone forever. Lesson learned.

    Thanked by 1maverick
  • 1allen1allen Member

    LowEndScam (tm)

    Though, it might be a good idea to require the proof of ownership to post the offers here.

  • dev_vpsdev_vps Member

    @1allen said:
    LowEndScam (tm)

    Though, it might be a good idea to require the proof of ownership to post the offers here.

    Still scammer can potentially "sell" to multiple buyers

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @1allen said:
    Though, it might be a good idea to require the proof of ownership to post the offers here.

    I include a YABS report with every service transfer thread.
    Does that improve your confidence?

  • MumblyMumbly Member
    edited June 12

    Those who paid via PayPal F&F using a credit card should initiate a credit card chargeback.

    It's not just you, the seller also voids PayPal protection in this case, so PayPal won't do anything, anything at all, to help the seller or intervene in any way.
    F&F looks like a great way to scam buyers, but that's mostly because buyers don't realize it works the same both ways. There's zero seller protection in such transactions.

  • cmeerwcmeerw Member

    @Mumbly said: Those who paid via PayPal F&F using a credit card should initiate a chargeback.

    Is that really good advice? Wouldn't PayPal then get mad at you?

  • MumblyMumbly Member
    edited June 12

    @cmeerw said:

    @Mumbly said: Those who paid via PayPal F&F using a credit card should initiate a chargeback.

    Is that really good advice? Wouldn't PayPal then get mad at you?

    No, with F&F, they don't care - you're on your own, and so is the seller.
    It's also not allowed to make sales via F&F, but that's on the seller, not the buyer, so the seller is helpless here.

    They acknowledge chargeback options and don't dispute your right to that mechanism even with regular transactions, but in such cases, they may step in to assist the seller because of seller protection:

    https://www.paypal.com/dm/webapps/mpp/security/resolve-disputes#:~:text=Here's a quick overview of the chargeback process:&text=The credit card company notifies,help to dispute the chargeback.

    We don’t initiate or handle chargebacks – the buyer's credit card issuer does. So that process follows the issuer’s policies. We also don’t judge the validity of a chargeback; that’s the responsibility of the card issuer. Our role is simply to collect information about the transaction and help you work with the card company to resolve the chargeback.

    If you've been notified of a chargeback, we'll help you sort it out. Our team of chargeback specialists can help you build a case to take to the credit card company – assuming you have good reason to dispute it. We'll provide you with all the relevant transaction details and walk you through the steps for submitting information to the credit card company.

    With an F&F transaction, the option above is gone. They won't help you sort it out, so legitimate sellers should absolutely avoid F&F as a payment method.

    Thanked by 2maverick tentor
  • _MS__MS_ Member

    F&F

  • MumblyMumbly Member

  • someversomever Member
    edited June 13

    While I would mention NodeSeek which is a CN vps forum where people can make transfer deals through agency (one of these agency is forum Admin so people can have deep trust, and agency would take 5% amount of this transfer as agency fee)
    It's just a case in some place and it may not apply to another place.

  • 1allen1allen Member

    @yoursunny said: I include a YABS report with every service transfer thread.

    you'd better do push-ups.

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @1allen said:

    @yoursunny said: I include a YABS report with every service transfer thread.

    you'd better do push-ups.

    Push-ups are at a premium because I can't produce new ones.
    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/3971610/#Comment_3971610

    There are about 20 videos unpublished.
    You can buy my totally safe service transfer, to get exclusive early access to one of these.
    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/189594/buy-one-asian-vps-get-two-push-up-videos#latest

    Thanked by 1SokolAlex
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