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Hetzner Reseller who accepts Crypto

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  • servers_guruservers_guru Member, Patron Provider
    edited June 2024

    @NetDynamics24 said:

    @Smith42 said:
    Curious because I rent close to a 100 servers from various Hetzner resellers and I've been assured by these resellers that my servers are safe in the absence of abuse complaints as they have agreements in place with Hetzner for reselling.

    There is no such agreement with Hetzner. Neither they do have reseller program.

    You can actually have an official reseller agreement to void VAT, at least if you are incorporated in the US. Which we have with them.

  • NetDynamics24NetDynamics24 Member, Host Rep

    @servers_guru said:

    You can actually have an official reseller agreement to void VAT, at least if you are incorporated in the US. Which we have with them.

    Can you please show it? We have asked them and they always say they do not have a reseller program.

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @servers_guru said:

    @NetDynamics24 said:

    @Smith42 said:
    Curious because I rent close to a 100 servers from various Hetzner resellers and I've been assured by these resellers that my servers are safe in the absence of abuse complaints as they have agreements in place with Hetzner for reselling.

    There is no such agreement with Hetzner. Neither they do have reseller program.

    You can actually have an official reseller agreement to void VAT, at least if you are incorporated in the US. Which we have with them.

    VAT? For the US?

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    Hetzner removes VAT for me because of my EU company, but they do this without any reseller agreement and also the US does not have VAT @ Hetzner in the first place.

  • Is there any information about any previously known Hetzner resellers being banned by them (not deadpool) ?

  • servers_guruservers_guru Member, Patron Provider
    edited June 2024

    @emgh said:
    Hetzner removes VAT for me because of my EU company, but they do this without any reseller agreement and also the US does not have VAT @ Hetzner in the first place.

    They do. They incorporated a branch in New York a couple of years ago and started to charge vat for their US customers. Which is why we did the reseller thing to start with.

    https://opencorpdata.com/us-va/11262776

    @NetDynamics24 said:

    @servers_guru said:

    You can actually have an official reseller agreement to void VAT, at least if you are incorporated in the US. Which we have with them.

    Can you please show it? We have asked them and they always say they do not have a reseller program.

    They do not have a reseller program. It's called a Non Taxable Transaction Certificate (NTTC) which says that you are reselling Hetzner product and should not pay Vat on it. You send it to Hetzner and they void VAT for you.

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @servers_guru

    I trust you but this is very weird then:

  • NetDynamics24NetDynamics24 Member, Host Rep

    For US companies Hetzner is charging sales tax, not VAT. They started charging this tax last year.

    Thanked by 2servers_guru emgh
  • servers_guruservers_guru Member, Patron Provider
    edited June 2024

    @NetDynamics24 said:
    For US companies Hetzner is charging sales tax, not VAT. They started charging this tax last year.

    My bad if it is not called vat, I don't rememeber exactly but it was around 8.5% for NM.

    Before they opened their US branch it was 0%.

  • servers_guruservers_guru Member, Patron Provider
    edited June 2024

    @emgh said:
    @servers_guru

    I trust you but this is very weird then:

    As mentioned by netdynamics it's probably called sales tax and not vat. I'd have to check old invoices.

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • labzelabze Member, Patron Provider

    @Smith42 said:
    Out of curiosity, does anybody have any info on past Hetzner resellers who have been banned by Hetzner? (i.e. names of the companies/individuals?)

    Curious because I rent close to a 100 servers from various Hetzner resellers and I've been assured by these resellers that my servers are safe in the absence of abuse complaints as they have agreements in place with Hetzner for reselling.

    Contrary to what most people assume, once you are in good business with Hetzner they are quite lenient as long as you pay your bills and respond to abuse notices. I'd say you have to do something quite wrong to be banned from Hetzner, especially as a registered company.

    I get weekly abuse notices and the worst that has happened if I fail to respond in time is that the specific IP address is blocked until the issue is addressed.

    Hetzner allows reselling and is part of their TOS but they do not provide specific agreements with individuals or companies.

  • servers_guruservers_guru Member, Patron Provider
    edited June 2024

    @labze said:

    @Smith42 said:
    Out of curiosity, does anybody have any info on past Hetzner resellers who have been banned by Hetzner? (i.e. names of the companies/individuals?)

    Curious because I rent close to a 100 servers from various Hetzner resellers and I've been assured by these resellers that my servers are safe in the absence of abuse complaints as they have agreements in place with Hetzner for reselling.

    Contrary to what most people assume, once you are in good business with Hetzner they are quite lenient as long as you pay your bills and respond to abuse notices. I'd say you have to do something quite wrong to be banned from Hetzner, especially as a registered company.

    I get weekly abuse notices and the worst that has happened if I fail to respond in time is that the specific IP address is blocked until the issue is addressed.

    Hetzner allows reselling and is part of their TOS but they do not provide specific agreements with individuals or companies.

    I second that. Regarding agreement as mentioned they don't provide a specific agreement but you can as a US company have an agreement of that kind to void taxes. That makes you "officially" an hetzner reseller. You can do that with any company you resell which charges you taxes.

    Thanked by 1sillycat
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