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Looking for Netcup alternative VDS.

bdspicebdspice Member
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I have used netcup root server RS 1000 G9.5 which have AMD EPYC™ 7702, 8 GB DDR4 RAM (ECC), 4 dedicated cores, 160 GB SSD and unlimited BW at 11.76€ per month.
I am looking for netcup alternative at such performance vds at same or lower price. Netcup only problem is montly contract. otherways netcup is excellent. VDS purpose is personal encoding only.

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  • JabJabJabJab Member
    edited December 2023

    Monthly contract is a problem? Buy from netcup.DE for 12 months contract, 6 months billing, 9,81€ per month then...

    // But that comes with the usual german contracts - need to cancel in advance, debt collectors incoming if you not pay, etc etc.

    Thanked by 2bdspice uncooked92
  • JabJabJabJab Member

    Other than that I know wishosting @exception0x876 likes to throw EU VDSes (at least unlimited turbo CPUs) from time to time... so ping? :D

    Thanked by 2bdspice exception0x876
  • loayloay Member

    the usual @PHP_Friends, Avoro and @crunchbits

    Thanked by 4bdspice crunchbits dataforest nick_
  • dev_vpsdev_vps Member

    @JabJab said:
    Other than that I know wishosting @exception0x876 likes to throw EU VDSes (at least unlimited turbo CPUs) from time to time... so ping? :D

    Those are not VDS.
    Just VPS with unrestricted cpu usage.

    Totally different things, in my opinion

  • bdspicebdspice Member

    @loay said:
    the usual @PHP_Friends = 4 core is €16.99/mo

    @crunchbits = 4 core is $38.00/mo

    both are expensive then netcup

  • dataforestdataforest Member, Patron Provider
    edited December 2023

    @bdspice said:

    @loay said:
    the usual @PHP_Friends = 4 core is €16.99/mo

    @crunchbits = 4 core is $38.00/mo

    both are expensive then netcup

    4 Cores (Epyc)
    8 GB DDR4 ECC RAM
    160 GB NVMe-SSD
    10 GBit/s shared
    Prepaid

    9 EUR per month incl. 19 % VAT (https://avoro.eu/en/rootserver/)

  • crunchbitscrunchbits Member, Patron Provider, Top Host

    @bdspice said:

    @loay said:
    the usual @PHP_Friends = 4 core is €16.99/mo

    @crunchbits = 4 core is $38.00/mo

    both are expensive then netcup

    I don't know if they're counting "vCPU" (threads) or not, but our 4 core is: 4 cores / 8 threads (actual CPU topology).

    Thanked by 4bdspice Frecyboy WebProject abtdw
  • bdspicebdspice Member

    @PHP_Friends said:

    @bdspice said:

    @loay said:
    the usual @PHP_Friends = 4 core is €16.99/mo

    @crunchbits = 4 core is $38.00/mo

    both are expensive then netcup

    4 Cores (Epyc)
    8 GB DDR4 ECC RAM
    160 GB NVMe-SSD
    10 GBit/s shared
    Prepaid

    9 EUR per month incl. 19 % VAT.

    order link please. do you have monthly contract like netcup?

  • JabJabJabJab Member

    @bdspice said: order link please. do you have monthly contract like netcup?

    That is from theirs second brand https://avoro.eu/en/rootserver/

    Thanked by 1bdspice
  • bdspicebdspice Member

    Thanks @JabJab @PHP_Friends got one from avoro.eu
    instant setup impressed me. here is yabs.
    curl -sL yabs.sh | bash
    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    # Yet-Another-Bench-Script #
    # v2023-11-30 #
    # https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #

    Fri Dec 29 21:54:24 UTC 2023

Basic System Information:
---------------------------------
Uptime     : 0 days, 0 hours, 12 minutes
Processor  : AMD EPYC 7452 32-Core Processor
CPU cores  : 4 @ 2350.000 MHz
AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
RAM        : 7.8 GiB
Swap       : 1024.0 MiB
Disk       : 160.0 GiB
Distro     : AlmaLinux 8.9 (Midnight Oncilla)
Kernel     : 4.18.0-477.13.1.el8_8.x86_64
VM Type    : KVM
IPv4/IPv6  : ✔ Online / ❌ Offline

IPv4 Network Information:
---------------------------------
ISP        : dataforest GmbH
ASN        : AS58212 dataforest GmbH
Host       : dataforest GmbH
Location   : Frankfurt am Main, Hesse (HE)
Country    : Germany

fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/sda2):
---------------------------------
Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
Read       | 62.31 MB/s   (15.5k) | 740.66 MB/s  (11.5k)
Write      | 62.41 MB/s   (15.6k) | 744.56 MB/s  (11.6k)
Total      | 124.72 MB/s  (31.1k) | 1.48 GB/s    (23.2k)
           |                      |
Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
Read       | 2.50 GB/s     (4.9k) | 4.29 GB/s     (4.1k)
Write      | 2.64 GB/s     (5.1k) | 4.58 GB/s     (4.4k)
Total      | 5.15 GB/s    (10.0k) | 8.88 GB/s     (8.6k)

iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
---------------------------------
Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping
-----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----
Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 4.54 Gbits/sec  | 6.44 Gbits/sec  | 11.3 ms
Scaleway        | Paris, FR (10G)           | 7.86 Gbits/sec  | busy            | 12.3 ms
NovoServe       | North Holland, NL (40G)   | 10.6 Gbits/sec  | 5.32 Gbits/sec  | 7.41 ms
Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 1.84 Gbits/sec  | 713 Mbits/sec   | 94.4 ms
Clouvider       | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 2.06 Gbits/sec  | 1.47 Gbits/sec  | 81.9 ms
Clouvider       | Dallas, TX, US (10G)      | 1.32 Gbits/sec  | 66.4 Mbits/sec  | 116 ms
Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 1.01 Gbits/sec  | 53.9 Mbits/sec  | 146 ms

Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:
---------------------------------
Test            | Value
                |
Single Core     | 938
Multi Core      | 2562
Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/4189279

YABS completed in 13 min 45 sec
    Thanked by 1nick_
  • JabJabJabJab Member
    edited December 2023

    @bdspice said: IPv4/IPv6 : ✔ Online / ❌ Offline

    out of curiosity - you disabled that on purpose or it's year 2024 (fuck those few days) and there is no IPv6 in PHP-Friends o.O?

  • bdspicebdspice Member

    @JabJab said:

    @bdspice said: IPv4/IPv6 : ✔ Online / ❌ Offline

    out of curiosity - you disabled that on purpose or it's year 2024 (fuck those few days) and there is no IPv6 in PHP-Friends o.O?

    i didn't checked yet because i dont need actually. maybe i need to manually make it on from control panel.

  • dataforestdataforest Member, Patron Provider

    @JabJab said:

    @bdspice said: IPv4/IPv6 : ✔ Online / ❌ Offline

    out of curiosity - you disabled that on purpose or it's year 2024 (fuck those few days) and there is no IPv6 in PHP-Friends o.O?

    Of course we have full IPv6 support for both of our labels :)

    Thanked by 2JabJab gbzret4d
  • darkimmortaldarkimmortal Member
    edited December 2023

    @dev_vps said:

    @JabJab said:
    Other than that I know wishosting @exception0x876 likes to throw EU VDSes (at least unlimited turbo CPUs) from time to time... so ping? :D

    Those are not VDS.
    Just VPS with unrestricted cpu usage.

    Totally different things, in my opinion

    Everyone selling VDS means unrestricted CPU VPS

    I would be very interested in any providers where cores are pinned to a particular VM. If someone hasn't already, this could be tested by L1 cache timing

    There is also another definition of VDS where an entire box is virtualised e.g. https://oplink.net/vds/, but this is rare and of dubious value to the customer

  • remyremy Member
    edited December 2023

    @darkimmortal said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @JabJab said:
    Other than that I know wishosting @exception0x876 likes to throw EU VDSes (at least unlimited turbo CPUs) from time to time... so ping? :D

    Those are not VDS.
    Just VPS with unrestricted cpu usage.

    Totally different things, in my opinion

    Everyone selling VDS means unrestricted CPU VPS

    I would be very interested in any providers where cores are pinned to a particular VM. If someone hasn't already, this could be tested by L1 cache timing

    There is also another definition of VDS where an entire box is virtualised e.g. https://oplink.net/vds/, but this is rare and of dubious value to the customer

    For me it means the CPU allocation is guaranteed
    Pinned or not the CPU performance should not vary much over time.
    No overselling of ressources.

    Unrestricted CPU access would not mean that the ressources are guaranteed. Because CPU performance could vary depending on the use of other users.

    VDS = guaranteed ressources for most providers as far I know

  • mustafamw3mustafamw3 Member, Patron Provider

    hetzner

  • bdspicebdspice Member

    @mustafamw3 said:
    hetzner

    They unapproved my account while signup. So no chance. Anyways avoro.eu woking excellent for me till now

  • COLBYLICIOUSCOLBYLICIOUS Member
    edited December 2023

    @bdspice said:
    Thanks @JabJab @PHP_Friends got one from avoro.eu
    instant setup impressed me. here is yabs.
    curl -sL yabs.sh | bash
    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    # Yet-Another-Bench-Script #
    # v2023-11-30 #
    # https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #

    Fri Dec 29 21:54:24 UTC 2023

    Basic System Information:
    ---------------------------------
    Uptime : 0 days, 0 hours, 12 minutes
    Processor : AMD EPYC 7452 32-Core Processor
    CPU cores : 4 @ 2350.000 MHz
    AES-NI : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
    RAM : 7.8 GiB
    Swap : 1024.0 MiB
    Disk : 160.0 GiB
    Distro : AlmaLinux 8.9 (Midnight Oncilla)
    Kernel : 4.18.0-477.13.1.el8_8.x86_64
    VM Type : KVM
    IPv4/IPv6 : ✔ Online / ❌ Offline

    IPv4 Network Information:
    ---------------------------------
    ISP : dataforest GmbH
    ASN : AS58212 dataforest GmbH
    Host : dataforest GmbH
    Location : Frankfurt am Main, Hesse (HE)
    Country : Germany

    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/sda2):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k (IOPS) | 64k (IOPS)
    ------ | --- ---- | ---- ----
    Read | 62.31 MB/s (15.5k) | 740.66 MB/s (11.5k)
    Write | 62.41 MB/s (15.6k) | 744.56 MB/s (11.6k)
    Total | 124.72 MB/s (31.1k) | 1.48 GB/s (23.2k)
    | |
    Block Size | 512k (IOPS) | 1m (IOPS)
    ------ | --- ---- | ---- ----
    Read | 2.50 GB/s (4.9k) | 4.29 GB/s (4.1k)
    Write | 2.64 GB/s (5.1k) | 4.58 GB/s (4.4k)
    Total | 5.15 GB/s (10.0k) | 8.88 GB/s (8.6k)

    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider | Location (Link) | Send Speed | Recv Speed | Ping
    ----- | ----- | ---- | ---- | ----
    Clouvider | London, UK (10G) | 4.54 Gbits/sec | 6.44 Gbits/sec | 11.3 ms
    Scaleway | Paris, FR (10G) | 7.86 Gbits/sec | busy | 12.3 ms
    NovoServe | North Holland, NL (40G) | 10.6 Gbits/sec | 5.32 Gbits/sec | 7.41 ms
    Uztelecom | Tashkent, UZ (10G) | 1.84 Gbits/sec | 713 Mbits/sec | 94.4 ms
    Clouvider | NYC, NY, US (10G) | 2.06 Gbits/sec | 1.47 Gbits/sec | 81.9 ms
    Clouvider | Dallas, TX, US (10G) | 1.32 Gbits/sec | 66.4 Mbits/sec | 116 ms
    Clouvider | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 1.01 Gbits/sec | 53.9 Mbits/sec | 146 ms

    Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:
    ---------------------------------
    Test | Value
    |
    Single Core | 938
    Multi Core | 2562
    Full Test | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/4189279

    YABS completed in 13 min 45 sec

    For me, this GB6 Single Core is pretty low compared with other servers that I can get here from LET.

  • bdspicebdspice Member

    @COLBYLICIOUS said:

    For me, this GB6 Single Core is pretty low compared with other servers that I can get here from LET.

    which VDS you got from here at such price? i want one.

  • c1vhostingc1vhosting Member

    @darkimmortal said: I would be very interested in any providers where cores are pinned to a particular VM. If someone hasn't already, this could be tested by L1 cache timing

    >

    We do..

  • dev_vpsdev_vps Member

    @remy said:

    @darkimmortal said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @JabJab said:
    Other than that I know wishosting @exception0x876 likes to throw EU VDSes (at least unlimited turbo CPUs) from time to time... so ping? :D

    Those are not VDS.
    Just VPS with unrestricted cpu usage.

    Totally different things, in my opinion

    Everyone selling VDS means unrestricted CPU VPS

    I would be very interested in any providers where cores are pinned to a particular VM. If someone hasn't already, this could be tested by L1 cache timing

    There is also another definition of VDS where an entire box is virtualised e.g. https://oplink.net/vds/, but this is rare and of dubious value to the customer

    For me it means the CPU allocation is guaranteed
    Pinned or not the CPU performance should not vary much over time.
    No overselling of ressources.

    Unrestricted CPU access would not mean that the ressources are guaranteed. Because CPU performance could vary depending on the use of other users.

    VDS = guaranteed ressources for most providers as far I know

    I have had services where cores were pinned to my VPS and not rest shared with any other VPS on the server node

    @mxmla Server-Factory

  • dev_vpsdev_vps Member
    edited December 2023

    @c1vhosting said:

    @darkimmortal said: I would be very interested in any providers where cores are pinned to a particular VM. If someone hasn't already, this could be tested by L1 cache timing

    We do..

    @darkimmortal

    Make sure you read the entire contract agreement completely in detail BEFORE signing up for the service with any provider.

    Thanked by 1c1vhosting
  • WhiteRoseGWhiteRoseG Member

    @PHP_Friends said:

    @bdspice said:

    @loay said:
    the usual @PHP_Friends = 4 core is €16.99/mo

    @crunchbits = 4 core is $38.00/mo

    both are expensive then netcup

    4 Cores (Epyc)
    8 GB DDR4 ECC RAM
    160 GB NVMe-SSD
    10 GBit/s shared
    Prepaid

    9 EUR per month incl. 19 % VAT (https://avoro.eu/en/rootserver/)

    Yes can vouch for Avoro network speed is impressive and also there instant setup for Win22 RDP is awesome.

    Thanked by 1dataforest
  • bdspicebdspice Member

    @WhiteRoseG said:

    @PHP_Friends said:

    @bdspice said:

    @loay said:
    the usual @PHP_Friends = 4 core is €16.99/mo

    @crunchbits = 4 core is $38.00/mo

    both are expensive then netcup

    4 Cores (Epyc)
    8 GB DDR4 ECC RAM
    160 GB NVMe-SSD
    10 GBit/s shared
    Prepaid

    9 EUR per month incl. 19 % VAT (https://avoro.eu/en/rootserver/)

    Yes can vouch for Avoro network speed is impressive and also there instant setup for Win22 RDP is awesome.

    OMG, i didnt notich there windows license is included.In this case, thats lowest windows vps i have ever seen.

  • sreekanth850sreekanth850 Member

    @bdspice said:

    @WhiteRoseG said:

    @PHP_Friends said:

    @bdspice said:

    @loay said:
    the usual @PHP_Friends = 4 core is €16.99/mo

    @crunchbits = 4 core is $38.00/mo

    both are expensive then netcup

    4 Cores (Epyc)
    8 GB DDR4 ECC RAM
    160 GB NVMe-SSD
    10 GBit/s shared
    Prepaid

    9 EUR per month incl. 19 % VAT (https://avoro.eu/en/rootserver/)

    Yes can vouch for Avoro network speed is impressive and also there instant setup for Win22 RDP is awesome.

    OMG, i didnt notich there windows license is included.In this case, thats lowest windows vps i have ever seen.

    I guess its bring your own key. They give you evaluation version.

  • WhiteRoseGWhiteRoseG Member

    @sreekanth850 said:

    @bdspice said:

    @WhiteRoseG said:

    @PHP_Friends said:

    @bdspice said:

    @loay said:
    the usual @PHP_Friends = 4 core is €16.99/mo

    @crunchbits = 4 core is $38.00/mo

    both are expensive then netcup

    4 Cores (Epyc)
    8 GB DDR4 ECC RAM
    160 GB NVMe-SSD
    10 GBit/s shared
    Prepaid

    9 EUR per month incl. 19 % VAT (https://avoro.eu/en/rootserver/)

    Yes can vouch for Avoro network speed is impressive and also there instant setup for Win22 RDP is awesome.

    OMG, i didnt notich there windows license is included.In this case, thats lowest windows vps i have ever seen.

    I guess its bring your own key. They give you evaluation version.

    https://massgrave.dev/

  • bdspicebdspice Member

    @sreekanth850 said:

    @bdspice said:

    @WhiteRoseG said:

    @PHP_Friends said:

    @bdspice said:

    @loay said:
    the usual @PHP_Friends = 4 core is €16.99/mo

    @crunchbits = 4 core is $38.00/mo

    both are expensive then netcup

    4 Cores (Epyc)
    8 GB DDR4 ECC RAM
    160 GB NVMe-SSD
    10 GBit/s shared
    Prepaid

    9 EUR per month incl. 19 % VAT (https://avoro.eu/en/rootserver/)

    Yes can vouch for Avoro network speed is impressive and also there instant setup for Win22 RDP is awesome.

    OMG, i didnt notich there windows license is included.In this case, thats lowest windows vps i have ever seen.

    I guess its bring your own key. They give you evaluation version.

    @PHP_Friends is your windows VDS come with key or not?

  • dataforestdataforest Member, Patron Provider

    @bdspice said:

    @sreekanth850 said:

    @bdspice said:

    @WhiteRoseG said:

    @PHP_Friends said:

    @bdspice said:

    @loay said:
    the usual @PHP_Friends = 4 core is €16.99/mo

    @crunchbits = 4 core is $38.00/mo

    both are expensive then netcup

    4 Cores (Epyc)
    8 GB DDR4 ECC RAM
    160 GB NVMe-SSD
    10 GBit/s shared
    Prepaid

    9 EUR per month incl. 19 % VAT (https://avoro.eu/en/rootserver/)

    Yes can vouch for Avoro network speed is impressive and also there instant setup for Win22 RDP is awesome.

    OMG, i didnt notich there windows license is included.In this case, thats lowest windows vps i have ever seen.

    I guess its bring your own key. They give you evaluation version.

    @PHP_Friends is your windows VDS come with key or not?

    No, these are Evaluation machines :)

    Thanked by 1bdspice
  • FaraonuFaraonu Member

    32 GB RAM
    4 CPU Core
    600 GB SSD

    YABS: https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/3845153#Comment_3845153

  • bdspicebdspice Member

    @Faraonu said:
    32 GB RAM
    4 CPU Core
    600 GB SSD

    YABS: https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/3845153#Comment_3845153

    what is this? are you provider here?

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