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c_vpsc_vps Member
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Hi Experts,

We want to get some knowledge from your experience.

As We are starting to provide shared hosting to our clients.

We are using 7900x with cPanel/LiteSpeed/Cloudlinux/imunify360.

Using event mpm.
Using lsphp as a handler with opcache.

We have tried our best to make it better.

Is there any way to make it more better for wp based sites.

Any Expert recommendations will be highly appreciated.
TIA

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  • c_vpsc_vps Member

    No one able to help?

  • labzelabze Member, Patron Provider

    Would help to know what's metrics you need to improve on? It's quite vague.

    Thanked by 2loay Peppery9
  • sassliksasslik Member

    Install clean WordPress with WP benchmark tool, run test and post result here.

  • c_vpsc_vps Member

    @labze said:
    Would help to know what's metrics you need to improve on? It's quite vague.

    I want to make the hosting best performance in term of Speed. What thing i have to do with server. What info i have to post here to get better suggestion.

  • tentortentor Member, Patron Provider

    @c_vps said: I want to make the hosting best performance in term of Speed.

    Static websites have the best performance. Never achievable by Wordpress or another CMS

  • vikiahm3dvikiahm3d Member

    Mate, you going to provide service to customers without knowing anything about optimisation?

    Not a great business idea bro. Maybe learn one or two things first and then offer services.

  • loayloay Member

    @c_vps said: I want to make the hosting best performance in term of Speed. What thing i have to do with server. What info i have to post here to get better suggestion.

    You have done must of the needed server side optimization, you can offer either an optimized wordpress install or a plugin for customers to cache content and optimize media from wordpress.

  • c_vpsc_vps Member

    @loay said:

    @c_vps said: I want to make the hosting best performance in term of Speed. What thing i have to do with server. What info i have to post here to get better suggestion.

    You have done must of the needed server side optimization, you can offer either an optimized wordpress install or a plugin for customers to cache content and optimize media from wordpress.

    Could you please elaborate, What does mean optimize wordpress install.

  • c_vpsc_vps Member

    @sasslik said:
    Install clean WordPress with WP benchmark tool, run test and post result here.

    Here are the result,
    https://postimg.cc/qtXP2k51
    I/O Usage was 20mb on this test.

  • loayloay Member

    @c_vps said: Could you please elaborate, What does mean optimize wordpress install.

    You have your WordPress install with all plugins and performance tuning pre-installed or offer a plugin that do all of this. From the bench you've shared the problem is with the I/O of your server or configuration.

  • c_vpsc_vps Member

    @loay said:

    @c_vps said: Could you please elaborate, What does mean optimize wordpress install.

    You have your WordPress install with all plugins and performance tuning pre-installed or offer a plugin that do all of this. From the bench you've shared the problem is with the I/O of your server or configuration.

    Everything looking good in test. Is any other way to get performance like speedypage. They have a good performance as compared to others. What technology they use

    Thanked by 1speedypage
  • loayloay Member

    @c_vps said: What technology they use

    I have no experience with speedypage, I do think you need faster disks for better performance given your benchmark results. This is the fio results for speedypage vps from benchmark by @febryanvaldo

    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50):
---------------------------------
Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
Read       | 713.83 MB/s (178.4k) | 4.93 GB/s    (77.0k)
Write      | 715.71 MB/s (178.9k) | 4.95 GB/s    (77.4k)
Total      | 1.42 GB/s   (357.3k) | 9.89 GB/s   (154.5k)
           |                      |
Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
Read       | 4.11 GB/s     (8.0k) | 4.13 GB/s     (4.0k)
Write      | 4.33 GB/s     (8.4k) | 4.40 GB/s     (4.3k)
Total      | 8.45 GB/s    (16.5k) | 8.54 GB/s     (8.3k)
    Thanked by 1speedypage
  • sassliksasslik Member

    @c_vps said:

    @sasslik said:
    Install clean WordPress with WP benchmark tool, run test and post result here.

    Here are the result,
    https://postimg.cc/qtXP2k51
    I/O Usage was 20mb on this test.

    Okei. Not that bad, this would be pretty average LET hosting.

    What are your machine specs, but can you also run yabs?

    Second, install redis + redis object cache, this is going to fix your problem with object cache and try run test again.

  • JordJord Moderator, Host Rep

    Talking about SpoodyPage:

    ---------------------------- network-speed.xyz ----------------------------
      A simple script to test network performance using speedtest-cli      
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Version            : v2023.11.13
 Global Speedtest   : wget -qO- network-speed.xyz | bash
 Region Speedtest   : wget -qO- network-speed.xyz | bash -s -- -r <region>
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Basic System Info
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 CPU Model          : AMD Ryzen 9 7900 12-Core Processor
 CPU Cores          : 4 @ 3699.966 MHz
 CPU Cache          : 1024 KB
 AES-NI             : ✔ Enabled
 VM-x/AMD-V         : ✔ Enabled
 Total Disk         : 15.0 GB (1.4 GB Used)
 Total RAM          : 929.2 MB (353.3 MB Used)
 System uptime      : 2 days, 5 hour 40 min
 Load average       : 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
 OS                 : AlmaLinux release 9.3 (Shamrock Pampas Cat)
 Arch               : x86_64 (64 Bit)
 Kernel             : 5.14.0-162.23.1.el9_1.x86_64
 Virtualization     : KVM
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Basic Network Info
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Primary Network    : IPv6
 IPv6 Access        : ✔ Online
 IPv4 Access        : ✔ Online
 ISP                : SpeedyPage Ltd
 ASN                : AS142594 SpeedyPage Ltd
 Host               : SpeedyPage Ltd
 Location           : Poplar, England-ENG, United Kingdom
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Speedtest.net (Region: GLOBAL)
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Location         Latency     Loss    DL Speed       UP Speed       Server      

 ISP: SpeedyPage Ltd 

 Nearest          0.42 ms     0.0%    8123.18 Mbps   8925.01 Mbps   Orbital Net - London 

 Kochi, IN        171.78 ms   0.0%    4345.49 Mbps   448.43 Mbps    Asianet Broadband - Cochin 
 Bangalore, IN    167.65 ms   0.0%    3640.06 Mbps   438.81 Mbps    Bharti Airtel Ltd - Bangalore 
 Chennai, IN      190.56 ms   N/A     4083.16 Mbps   398.03 Mbps    Jio - Chennai 
 Mumbai, IN       116.03 ms   0.0%    4843.52 Mbps   673.29 Mbps    i3D.net - Mumbai 
 Delhi, IN        134.17 ms   0.0%    2250.25 Mbps   579.09 Mbps    Tata Teleservices Ltd - New Delhi 

 Seattle, US      134.82 ms   N/A     5773.54 Mbps   590.63 Mbps    Comcast - Seattle, WA 
 Los Angeles, US  140.88 ms   0.0%    4032.62 Mbps   567.56 Mbps    ReliableSite Hosting - Los Angeles, CA 
 Dallas, US       105.31 ms   0.0%    6034.88 Mbps   789.51 Mbps    Hivelocity - Dallas, TX 
 Miami, US        165.40 ms   0.0%    2527.11 Mbps   531.00 Mbps    AT&T - Miami, FL 
 New York, US     71.71 ms    0.0%    5594.64 Mbps   1168.11 Mbps   GSL Networks - New York, NY 
 Toronto, CA      84.66 ms    0.0%    6007.95 Mbps   937.60 Mbps    Rogers - Toronto, ON 

 London, UK       0.60 ms     0.0%    8052.66 Mbps   8894.62 Mbps   VeloxServ Communications - London 
 Amsterdam, NL    7.18 ms     0.0%    7102.08 Mbps   7317.95 Mbps   31173 Services AB - Amsterdam 
 Paris, FR        11.76 ms    N/A     8178.27 Mbps   3319.06 Mbps   Axione - Paris 
 Frankfurt, DE    13.73 ms    0.0%    8713.32 Mbps   6017.30 Mbps   23M GmbH - Frankfurt am Main 
 Warsaw, PL       29.25 ms    0.0%    9198.55 Mbps   2790.99 Mbps   UPC Polska - Warszawa 
 Bucharest, RO    40.52 ms    0.0%    8640.88 Mbps   2061.41 Mbps   Vodafone Romania Fixed – Bucharest - Bucharest 

 Jeddah, SA       85.89 ms    0.7%    6271.92 Mbps   1051.21 Mbps   Saudi Telecom Company 
 Dubai, AE        131.00 ms   0.0%    4483.14 Mbps   646.96 Mbps    du - Dubai  
 Fujairah, AE     117.08 ms   0.0%    6048.76 Mbps   659.12 Mbps    ETISALAT-UAE - Fujairah 

 Tokyo, JP        256.28 ms   N/A     2241.88 Mbps   298.43 Mbps    fdcservers.net - Tokyo 
 Shanghai, CU-CN  201.58 ms   0.0%    2497.93 Mbps   404.36 Mbps    China Unicom 5G - Shanghai 
 Nanjing, CT-CN   254.49 ms   0.3%    253.35 Mbps    137.99 Mbps    China Telecom JiangSu 5G - Nanjing 
 Hong Kong, CN    166.08 ms   N/A     2130.81 Mbps   419.38 Mbps    STC - Hong Kong 
 Singapore, SG    165.31 ms   0.0%    4490.46 Mbps   495.57 Mbps    i3D.net - Singapore 
 Jakarta, ID      179.96 ms   0.0%    3329.90 Mbps   400.68 Mbps    PT. Telekomunikasi Indonesia - Jakarta 
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Avg DL Speed       : 5144.07 Mbps
 Avg UL Speed       : 1887.49 Mbps

 Total DL Data      : 179.73 GB
 Total UL Data      : 57.66 GB
 Total Data         : 237.39 GB
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Duration           : 12 min 50 sec
 System Time        : 20/11/2023 - 22:13:20 GMT
 Total Script Runs  : 27545
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Thanked by 6speedypage loay sasslik febryanvaldo mrs92 COLBYLICIOUS
  • febryanvaldofebryanvaldo Member

    @Jord said: SpoodyPage:

    it's SpeedyPage my friend, not SpoodyPage :D

  • mrs92mrs92 Member

    @febryanvaldo said:

    @Jord said: SpoodyPage:

    it's SpeedyPage my friend, not SpoodyPage :D

    Just a typo I believe. It should be SpookyPage, not SpoodyPage. :p

  • c_vpsc_vps Member

    @sasslik said:

    @c_vps said:

    @sasslik said:
    Install clean WordPress with WP benchmark tool, run test and post result here.

    Here are the result,
    https://postimg.cc/qtXP2k51
    I/O Usage was 20mb on this test.

    Okei. Not that bad, this would be pretty average LET hosting.

    What are your machine specs, but can you also run yabs?

    Second, install redis + redis object cache, this is going to fix your problem with object cache and try run test again.

    7900x
    128gb
    2x2tb gen4 nvme raid-1

    Is it secure to use redis/memcache on shared hosting environment.

  • JordJord Moderator, Host Rep

    @febryanvaldo said:

    @Jord said: SpoodyPage:

    it's SpeedyPage my friend, not SpoodyPage :D

    I know 🤣 but I call it SpoodyPage, it’s just after Halloween right.

  • febryanvaldofebryanvaldo Member
    edited November 2023

    @Jord said:
    I know 🤣 but I call it SpoodyPage, it’s just after Halloween right.

    Yeah, i knew it should be about Halloween things, so SpookyPage would be more suitable hahaha.

  • sassliksasslik Member

    @c_vps said:

    @sasslik said:

    @c_vps said:

    @sasslik said:
    Install clean WordPress with WP benchmark tool, run test and post result here.

    Here are the result,
    https://postimg.cc/qtXP2k51
    I/O Usage was 20mb on this test.

    Okei. Not that bad, this would be pretty average LET hosting.

    What are your machine specs, but can you also run yabs?

    Second, install redis + redis object cache, this is going to fix your problem with object cache and try run test again.

    7900x
    128gb
    2x2tb gen4 nvme raid-1

    Is it secure to use redis/memcache on shared hosting environment.

    Yes, lots / most providers offers redis already preinstalled.

    Have you tried to rerun the benchmark again, what are results?

  • c_vpsc_vps Member

    @sasslik said:

    @c_vps said:

    @sasslik said:

    @c_vps said:

    @sasslik said:
    Install clean WordPress with WP benchmark tool, run test and post result here.

    Here are the result,
    https://postimg.cc/qtXP2k51
    I/O Usage was 20mb on this test.

    Okei. Not that bad, this would be pretty average LET hosting.

    What are your machine specs, but can you also run yabs?

    Second, install redis + redis object cache, this is going to fix your problem with object cache and try run test again.

    7900x
    128gb
    2x2tb gen4 nvme raid-1

    Is it secure to use redis/memcache on shared hosting environment.

    Yes, lots / most providers offers redis already preinstalled.

    Have you tried to rerun the benchmark again, what are results?

    I didn’t installed redis yet. I will install it. Every customer should have to enabled it? Can we provide automated enabled on every wp installation.

  • sassliksasslik Member
    edited November 2023

    @c_vps said:

    @sasslik said:

    @c_vps said:

    @sasslik said:

    @c_vps said:

    @sasslik said:
    Install clean WordPress with WP benchmark tool, run test and post result here.

    Here are the result,
    https://postimg.cc/qtXP2k51
    I/O Usage was 20mb on this test.

    Okei. Not that bad, this would be pretty average LET hosting.

    What are your machine specs, but can you also run yabs?

    Second, install redis + redis object cache, this is going to fix your problem with object cache and try run test again.

    7900x
    128gb
    2x2tb gen4 nvme raid-1

    Is it secure to use redis/memcache on shared hosting environment.

    Yes, lots / most providers offers redis already preinstalled.

    Have you tried to rerun the benchmark again, what are results?

    I didn’t installed redis yet. I will install it. Every customer should have to enabled it? Can we provide automated enabled on every wp installation.

    We are no using LiteSpeed, but if i remember right LiteSpeed has their own memcache, so if your server has LiteSpeed you can use their own memcache, but i dont know performance and then your customers doesnt need to install different plugins...

    // Yes, there is LSMCD: https://docs.litespeedtech.com/products/lsmcd/getting_started/

    So i dont know this, because i have been using redis for long time and prefer this.

  • c_vpsc_vps Member

    @sasslik said:

    @c_vps said:

    @sasslik said:

    @c_vps said:

    @sasslik said:

    @c_vps said:

    @sasslik said:
    Install clean WordPress with WP benchmark tool, run test and post result here.

    Here are the result,
    https://postimg.cc/qtXP2k51
    I/O Usage was 20mb on this test.

    Okei. Not that bad, this would be pretty average LET hosting.

    What are your machine specs, but can you also run yabs?

    Second, install redis + redis object cache, this is going to fix your problem with object cache and try run test again.

    7900x
    128gb
    2x2tb gen4 nvme raid-1

    Is it secure to use redis/memcache on shared hosting environment.

    Yes, lots / most providers offers redis already preinstalled.

    Have you tried to rerun the benchmark again, what are results?

    I didn’t installed redis yet. I will install it. Every customer should have to enabled it? Can we provide automated enabled on every wp installation.

    We are no using LiteSpeed, but if i remember right LiteSpeed has their own memcache, so if your server has LiteSpeed you can use their own memcache, but i dont know performance and then your customers doesnt need to install different plugins...

    // Yes, there is LSMCD: https://docs.litespeedtech.com/products/lsmcd/getting_started/

    So i dont know this, because i have been using redis for long time and prefer this.

    We are using LSMCD for our other servers.

    Any other way to get better performance . What is anycast dns? Is it play any role in performance.

  • sassliksasslik Member

    https://upload.ee/image/15966583/asdda.png

    Also testing new setup for WordPress customers. At the moment it is running HostHatch:

    1 AMD EPYC Milan core (fair share)
    2 GB DDR4 RAM
    10 GB NVMe Storage
    1 TB bandwidth

    Redis maxmemory has 256mb.

    Need also improve db. :D

  • nullednulled Member

    There is also the dedicated WP CDN quic.cloud that may or may not give better results than CF; it integrates directly with LSC.

  • c_vpsc_vps Member

    @nulled said:
    There is also the dedicated WP CDN quic.cloud that may or may not give better results than CF; it integrates directly with LSC.

    Thanks but we are using it. We want server end side optimisation Hardware or software 🥲

  • nullednulled Member

    Haven't tried it yet, but: https://github.com/major/MySQLTuner-perl

    @sasslik said:
    Need also improve db. :D

    Thanked by 1sasslik
  • sassliksasslik Member
    edited November 2023

    @nulled said:
    Haven't tried it yet, but: https://github.com/major/MySQLTuner-perl

    @sasslik said:
    Need also improve db. :D

    Thanks, looks nice, will try it later.

  • c_vpsc_vps Member

    @nulled said:
    Haven't tried it yet, but: https://github.com/major/MySQLTuner-perl

    @sasslik said:
    Need also improve db. :D

    We have used it in past on bussy server but it did not work well for bussy server.

    Thanked by 1sasslik
  • sassliksasslik Member

    @c_vps said:

    @nulled said:
    Haven't tried it yet, but: https://github.com/major/MySQLTuner-perl

    @sasslik said:
    Need also improve db. :D

    We have used it in past on bussy server but it did not work well for bussy server.

    Ok, thanks. I will try my method first and this another test web server.

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