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My bad, you are connected to even more shit than Kjartan lmao.
You shouldn't have corrected me to be honest.
How is Northlayer doing?
Your website is not looking good
Did you read what you just wrote after you wrote it?
Seems pretty clear that since no user data was removed, accounts clearly have not been terminated yet. Therefore section 18 doesn't apply and thus people are still entitled to a refund?
Also, this clause seems to be almost certainly not legal. Consider a case where you hire someone to paint your house. You pay them, they paint half the house and decide they no longer want to paint your house. They unilaterally terminate the contract. Wouldn't you be pissed and want a refund? Wouldn't you say you're entitled to a refund?
He is (or they are) claiming that "Section 18" in the ToS makes the painter perfectly within the law to do just that, PLUS add on fees that were not in the agreement/contract if the customer attempts to get a refund.
It doesn't, but that is the claim/statement made..
This is the hardest part to understand. The provider said that the business was profitable until the end but that the time and investment required to keep it going wasn't worth it to him, so he decided to close shop. Why, at least, couldn't he have given advance notification here so that customers could back up their stuff before it went down?
At the very least, when he brought the homepage backup a day or so later, mention this on the homepage..... Rather than leaving us with with no information.
Services have hiccups, regardless of their size, it happens.. Not knowing that this was deliberate, was the asshole move.. Could have brought services back up days earlier, rather than waiting for a nonexistent issue to get fixed.
Lmao this guy is definitely a character
This is unconscionable contract terms and won't hold in a Canadian court.
You can have similar terms to flush out a single unwanted customer, but what you are doing is fraud.
This cunt should be banned.
There's no chance he'll be individually suing all 500 of his customers who successfully got their $50 to $250 money back from PayPal and the credit card chargebacks.
Forget about the non-Canadian customers, who he'd have to sue in 20+ foreign countries. Even his Canadian customers aren't going to get sued.
Even if he would win every case it wouldn't be financially viable to sue them. But in this situation he wouldn't even win a single case even if he spent on legal fees to sue more money than he could possibly win.
Customers should do what they need to do. Either ask for a refund, or do a chargeback. Whichever way they want regardless what the provider says because it's evident that he does not have any respect toward his customers, based on his actions and replies on this topic.
That's why a certain Kris in here, who immediately came in screaming about suing the host with his "multiple lawyers on retainer", was utterly ridiculous. There is a process to deal with these sort of things. People just immediately start freaking out like children sometimes.
You are thinking like a hooligan.
People immediately start freaking out like children sometimes, maybe just because they are dealing with unreasonable jerk.
People will treat you with more respect if you present yourself as a responsible adult in the first place, as everyone would prefer to handle issues rationally.
Nah, Limewave hadn't even said a peep yet and Kris was already pulling his hair out, threatening his legal tag team on him.
What Limewave has done, is a dick move if I need to clarify my stance. But the over reaction with not one, but TWO lawyers, was hilariously teenager-ish.
Beautiful.
Well, I think you can't justify yourself - "over reaction" ? For whom? What standards to judge by? Who is the victim?
People are pissed because Limewave has been acting like the victim in all this, but really most people are just waiting for him to step up and tell them what's going on and what the plan is, so who exactly is overreacting?
So you are jerk, too.
Nope. Limewave was throwing hands threatening to add on "administrative fee, charge back fee, balance due and interest" and then fire it off to collections on anyone trying a chargeback, and then Kris said that if they do, he knows two lawyers. He never said "legal team", he literally said he knows two lawyers, if I remember correctly they were customers of his.
It's so easy to just scroll back a few pages and read it all, there is absolutely no need to make false statements.
@Dvo Just rebrand like @dustinc
For example:
Alpharacks is Limeweave
RackNerd is ColoChad
Dustin is Purple Daddy
You can be Blue Daddy.
Then pay 200 USD for provider tag, and there's no more issues.
Is it really so hard to understand? Nobody will remember after 2 years anyway.
"Two lawyers on retainer" I believe it was. Eager beavers ready to litigate low end matters. Hilarious.
Ah, there's Dvo's bitch. Your mom still sore? Tell her I'll Venmo her that tenner later on today.
Let me re-iteriate for boot:
1) Chargeback worked brilliantly.
2) Lawyer only gets contacted if Dvo tries to touch credit fraudulently. Then a cease and desist is sent. This does nothing legally, but is a great paper trail for sending to TransUnion, Equifax, or Experian.
I'm sorry you're too mentally incapable of understanding what a lawyer is for, and yes - I did threaten to contact a lawyer if @Dvo tries his mental gymnastics and tries to collect debt.
If you aren't Dvo's alt to derail things, get a life. People got scammed, I'm sorry it rustles your jimmies.
Yep, two I host. They pay zero, and if I need assistance, I pay zero.
Chargeback was simple and processed online. Only if Dvo tries to screw up credit would I even contact them.
I guess making an alt username in Dec 2023 as you're about to exit scam clients is a better method of trying to make your business work.
He simply mentioned that he has two lawyers and did not make any more radical statements like wanting to shoot DVO, etc., yet you continue to mock him.
I cannot understand your behavior, perhaps you have some history with the two lawyers, I guess.
Home made TOS? Because there's clearly a part that can't be legal.
Limewave Communications reserves the right to terminate any account without reason and refund?
You should throw in at least abuse and/or force majeure reasons for not refunding. TOS does not legalize stealing.
Glad you got your $15 back and didn't have to sick your legal team on him.
Right, because I there are so many Lawyers that trade off their services for web hosting. I guess your business is doing so well you don't need to pay $200 on LET to promote it or have a Provider tag here.
Or maybe you are all just full of it, trying to look self important, and just wanted to swing your little dick around.
I'm leaning towards the latter.
So your measure of a business is if they're able to afford a provider tag here? Oh sweet summer child.
Uh yeah, one I've done SEO for 15 years, the other I host and keep their site up. This isn't hard. One site used the Lawyer's Red Diary and Manual to create a directory of 550 or so towns in my state that stayed on the top of search engines for a decade when searching the town's municipal court.
I'm a little above needing a provider tag here. I host a handful of clients and don't need a LET tag.
This was a cute place to hang out 10 years ago, but now we got basement dwellers like yourself propping up a fraudster, who someone still isn't banned.
Sorry you weren't able to derail the thread. Keep on being an awesome contributor to LET!
We should just rename this thread to "@Kris vs @boot with a side dish of Limewave Deadpool"
Pretty sure it's just a Dvo alt trying to derail it. Still kind of pissed I'm the one who's angry and asking the questions about people who paid yearly... in December, from a post on LET itself.
I couldn't care less, but boot seems to have something for men - dunno.
But if an account is terminated for abuse the user can't get their data... Our accounts weren't terminated for abuse...
After moving services, if my Limewave server came back online now, that will cause a lot of issues for me.
He plans to bring the servers back online for 24 hours.
I saw that.. But not officially a plan either.. I also didn't notice an issue before making outbound SSH connections, but I really don't care about the data either, it had a nightly backup schedule..
If they are only up for 24 hours, I am hoping we will be notified of the schedule and have the option to opt-out.. But the way the shutdown was handled, I am expecting no communication.. Will just have to watch for it and be ready.
It's pointless to continue if you ask me. I lost 3 servers with Limewave. I'm fuckin` pissed too @Kris, who wouldn't be?
All 3 bought in October via Paypal. So .. NO REFUND for me.
Life goes on.