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VPS Hosting provided by Njal.la

edited October 2023 in Providers

Has anyone used the VPS Hosting provided by Njal.la ?
How do you rate the VPS Hosting service provided?

I noticed this provider accepts cryptocurrency payments (for example Bitcoin) and does not require a lot personal information. The VPSes are priced at 30 euro, which is quite expensive. But they are dual stack and have both IPV4 and IPV6.

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  • Where are your servers located?

    In secret locations in Sweden.

    I guess in their mom bedroom..

    Or?

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  • I mean they are lowend, if you want to spend way more money than necessary. They might take the vps away like they do with domains sometimes, but at least you spent way too much for shitty performance. I'd rather use incognet, like 100% better, or ihostart/hazi.ro or something else.

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  • Karlsson who lives on the roof doesn't agree with these prices.

  • sillycatsillycat Member
    edited October 2023

    @jenkki said: I guess in their mom bedroom..

    You clearly don't know what you are talking about. Njalla is the most known registrar in the privacy space.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Njalla

    @shruub said: incognet

    +1. Peter might pull the plug on you if he doesn't like you, but I doubt Incognet will.

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  • @sillycat said: You clearly don't know what you are talking about. Njalla is the most known registrar in the privacy space.

    Reminds me of a story with a one Swedish torrent company. They thought they were bulletproof, too.

  • @jenkki said:

    @sillycat said: You clearly don't know what you are talking about. Njalla is the most known registrar in the privacy space.

    Reminds me of a story with a one Swedish torrent company. They thought they were bulletproof, too.

    There are no bullets online

    People really need to define what they need

    Sweden won’t ever be a heaven for copyright infringement

    However, there’s decent protection of free speech and also protective privacy laws (for example, all induvidually registered .se domains show no personal info on WHOIS, as per GDPR.)

    But all that is seperate from what’s setting Njal.la apart, with them, you can register for domains and/or servers more anonymously compared to using a registrar directly since they’re a middleman offering Monero and legally, they own the domain that you buy

  • @emgh said: But all that is seperate from what’s setting Njal.la apart, with them, you can register for domains and/or servers more anonymously compared to using a registrar directly since they’re a middleman offering Monero and legally, they own the domain that you buy

    What's the difference between them and AEZA for servers, for example? Same localization Sweden. Prices are up to five times lower. The company is based out of America and EU. Unlikely to respond to inquiries DMCA, etc

    After one serious request from the US, you'll be dispersed to hell and there's nothing you can do about it.

  • emghemgh Member
    edited October 2023

    @jenkki said:

    @emgh said: But all that is seperate from what’s setting Njal.la apart, with them, you can register for domains and/or servers more anonymously compared to using a registrar directly since they’re a middleman offering Monero and legally, they own the domain that you buy

    What's the difference between them and AEZA for servers, for example? Same localization Sweden. Prices are up to five times lower. The company is based out of America and EU. Unlikely to respond to inquiries DMCA, etc

    After one serious request from the US, you'll be dispersed to hell and there's nothing you can do about it.

    This is often repeated but it’s factually false

    Peter Sunde was sentenced to jail time in Svea hovrätt, a swedish court

    Some of the judges there were/are professors at Uppsala University, where I studied law, and I can assure you that they weren’t persuaded by any country in any way

    What they did is a crime in Sweden, if it wasn’t, they wouldn’t have gotten jail time by our independent courts, over which goverment actually has far less control here compared to in the US, as neither politicians nor voters have any significant influence over judges

    Now, as he was wanted by Interpol, the US. did play a major role, but they have zero control over Swedish courts, and if what he did wasn’t a crime, Sweden wouldn’t have prosecuted him

    Trump publically called Stefan Löfvén and made a big deal about getting ASAP Rocky home without prosecution, his reputation was on the like, nevertheless, he was prosected and Steffe said, and I quote, ”It dosen’t matter who calls or who tweets.”

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  • To be clear, the US can obviously put enourmous pressure on Sweden, no doubt about it, but it dosen’t work in the way that popular culture likes to think

  • @emgh said: To be clear, the US can obviously put enourmous pressure on Sweden, no doubt about it

    I know Sweden well I have been to Stockholm many times and Uppsala.
    But the situation back then taught me a lot about the relationship between the US and Sweden. When some of the co-workers were forced to leave and one was hiding in the Ecuadorian embassy. Do you think that's normal for you?

  • @jenkki said:

    @emgh said: To be clear, the US can obviously put enourmous pressure on Sweden, no doubt about it

    I know Sweden well I have been to Stockholm many times and Uppsala.
    But the situation back then taught me a lot about the relationship between the US and Sweden. When some of the co-workers were forced to leave and one was hiding in the Ecuadorian embassy. Do you think that's normal for you?

    I don’t know the background as to why they had to hide or leave, although I’m confident that neither I nor anyone I know has ever had to hide from the state

  • @emgh said: I know has ever had to hide from the state

    Real security is when no one can request your extradition or arrest from another country. Unless, of course, you are a real criminal. Drugs, terrorism, etc. In your case, the US has requested that all members of the company be arrested in Sweden and imprisoned. They had to hide in their own country in response to a request from the US. As they say, once is not a faggot, but the fact is.
    For some reason, after Snowden arrived in Russia, no one had the courage to request his extradition to the United States. That speaks volumes.

  • @jenkki no it dosen’t, that’s because relations between US and Russia have been tense for awhile

    Obviously Russia wouldn’t send Snowden to the US just like that

    It dosen’t speak to anything apart from the fact that US - Russia relations aren’t good

    But now I see your true motive, trying to pretend like Russia has human rights, claim denied, move on

  • @emgh said: But now I see your true motive, trying to pretend like Russia has human rights, claim denied, move on

    I'm not trying to say anything just real facts.
    You're just used to being told you're cool and independent. But you're in a union where you're led from the outside by completely different people who will step on you and step over you when necessary.

  • https://njal.la/pricing/#servers
    15 € for 1 Core, 1.5 GB RAM, 15 GB Disk, 1.5 TB Traffic!
    What they offer for that price?! EPYC Bergamo?

  • @yusra said: What they offer for that price?! EPYC Bergamo?

    All the time it seems like these prices are out of the real world. But they keep trying to prove that this is something special worth overpaying for.

  • @jenkki said:

    @emgh said: But now I see your true motive, trying to pretend like Russia has human rights, claim denied, move on

    I'm not trying to say anything just real facts.
    You're just used to being told you're cool and independent. But you're in a union where you're led from the outside by completely different people who will step on you and step over you when necessary.

    No, we voted on alining with the US. It's what the people want

    Here's some interesting information for you:

  • njalla is like floki both are not recommended!

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  • @emgh said: It's what the people want

    You have an interesting barometer of democracy. In the USA they give 525 years in prison for freedom of speech and consider themselves the most democratic country. Interesting..

  • emghemgh Member
    edited October 2023

    @jenkki said:

    @emgh said: It's what the people want

    You have an interesting barometer of democracy. In the USA they give 525 years in prison for freedom of speech and consider themselves the most democratic country. Interesting..

    I didn't say anything about the US, I said that's what the swedish people want

    You really think companies here rebrand their products to not remotely resemble anything russian because of their hatred for money or because people here hate Russia?

    Also, if you looked at the fucking map you'd see that the US isn't ranked in the top, however, it's far from Russia at least, but most countries are, except for in africa

  • jenkkijenkki Member
    edited October 2023

    @emgh said: Also, if you looked at the fucking map you'd see that the US isn't ranked in the top, however, it's far from Russia at least, but most countries are, except for in africa

    And what in your mind is democracy? Everyone has their own idea. If someone thinks that they have a high level it does not mean that others have a lower level just because they have different ideas about democracy.

  • @jenkki said:

    @emgh said: Also, if you looked at the fucking map you'd see that the US isn't ranked in the top, however, it's far from Russia at least, but most countries are, except for in africa

    And what in your mind is democracy? Everyone has their own idea. If someone thinks that they have a high level it does not mean that others have a lower level just because they have different ideas about democracy.

    That one mad man rules it all and throws the opposition in jail

  • @emgh said: That one mad man rules it all and throws the opposition in jail

    Demos from Ancient Greek is the People, Cracy is the Power. So together it is the Power of the People. Where do you see People Power? It's only possible under Socialism. Under Capitalism, it's impossible.

    You have the wrong idea about rights and freedoms. You think permissiveness is democracy? I do what I want..

  • @jenkki said:

    @emgh said: That one mad man rules it all and throws the opposition in jail

    Demos from Ancient Greek is the People, Cracy is the Power. So together it is the Power of the People. Where do you see People Power? It's only possible under Socialism. Under Capitalism, it's impossible.

    You have the wrong idea about rights and freedoms. You think permissiveness is democracy? I do what I want..

    Demos, the greeks, socialism, and so my non-democratic country according to all serious research is democratic!

  • @emgh said: Demos, the greeks, socialism, and so my non-democratic country according to all serious research is democratic!

    Real democracy is when you decide what to do for you and not a superior uncle for you.

    We're not seeing that yet. It's all self-delusion.

  • Words that mean nothing

    Words that mean nothing

    Words that mean nothing

    And so my non-democratic country according to all serious research is democratic!

  • @emgh said: And so my non-democratic country according to all serious research is democratic!

    An uninhabited island is a democracy.

  • MateyoMateyo Member
    edited October 2023

    "Reminds me of a story with a one Swedish torrent company. They thought they were bulletproof, too."

    I think the company you are referring to is or was a Seychelles based one. I do not know what they thought but the site it is still online and celebrated 20 years last month.

    Scandinavia is of course one of the most developed regions in the world from a human and fundamental rights perspective, among many other things, but in my opinion Sweden is not a good example of a country protecting what is fair when under heavy pressure from the US, and the TPB case is not a good example either (who was working for the police that arrested Peter Sunde just a few days after his arrest?), much less the Julian Assange case in Sweden.

    For example and going back to the subject of this thread, I would argue that the annual Special 301 Report history shows that Switzerland and even Canada has been less vulnerable to pressure from the US than Sweden.

  • tomletomle Member, LIR
    edited October 2023

    @emgh said:
    To be clear, the US can obviously put enourmous pressure on Sweden, no doubt about it, but it dosen’t work in the way that popular culture likes to think

    Well, it's proven that the US put a lot of pressure on Sweden to create laws to make piracy illegal. So while I agree that they don't interfere with judges or the juridical system, they influence the laws in a way that make certain actions illegal.
    Sources:
    https://www.svd.se/a/28aaef0f-a049-39b3-b2ac-06f69dce7690/usas-regering-samarbetar-med-filmindustrin
    https://computersweden.idg.se/2.2683/1.48487/hot-om-sanktioner-fore-polisens-piratrazzia

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  • tomletomle Member, LIR

    @jenkki said:

    @emgh said: Demos, the greeks, socialism, and so my non-democratic country according to all serious research is democratic!

    Real democracy is when you decide what to do for you and not a superior uncle for you.

    We're not seeing that yet. It's all self-delusion.

    You might want to look up the definition of democracy. It's fine to like or dislike democracy but there is a clear definition.

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