SMTP Server Choices – What Works Best for You?

Uchiha

I'm curious about SMTP servers. What's your preferred SMTP server, and why? Also, is setting up a self-hosted SMTP server worth it in your experience?

Hizakura

I recommend Postmark for a fast delivery of the e-mail.

SirFoxy

SES. Always SES.

skippy

MXroute, Amazon SES. Reliability.

Hizakura

@SirFoxy said:
SES. Always SES.

I don't recommend SES since we got a lot of bonus emails from them and they need to verify the sender email address like [email protected]

SirFoxy

@skippy said:
MXroute, Amazon SES. Reliability.

MXroute isn't intended to be used as an SMTP relay. Especially not for marketing.

SirFoxy

@Hizakura said:

@SirFoxy said:
SES. Always SES.

I don't recommend SES since we got a lot of bonus emails from them and they need to verify the sender email address like [email protected]

You can verify on the domain level instead of email level.

Hizakura

@SirFoxy said: You can verify on the domain level instead of email level.

I remember we have to verify all of them, did they change the rules?

SirFoxy

@Hizakura said:

@SirFoxy said: You can verify on the domain level instead of email level.

I remember we have to verify all of them, did they change the rules?

You might have at one point, I forget, but now you just need to verify once per domain at the DNS level (you can also do it the per email way as well though).

Hizakura

@SirFoxy said:

@Hizakura said:

@SirFoxy said: You can verify on the domain level instead of email level.

I remember we have to verify all of them, did they change the rules?

You might have at one point, I forget, but now you just need to verify once per domain at the DNS level (you can also do it the per email way as well though).

Last time we used it was like 2 years ago and we had to verify the domain (DNS), as well as the email address. Maybe they changed it.

tomle

Yes only domain is required now, you can do either domain or every email address, both are not necessary (SES).

niranjan

SES, Oracle Mail

yoursunny

Mentally strong people run nc -l 25 and answer SMTP commands manually.

emgh

Can't recommend SES, they wasted a lot of our time with a bunch (and I mean A BUNCH) of questions.

We responded very carefully, we only send transactional email AND we've been paying clients for maybe 4-5 years.

"No, but please answer these 10 more questions"

"Ok, here's the answers"

"Thanks! Still no"

Levi

Any transactional email service from big provider:

Amazon
Oracle
M$
Mailgun
Postmark

Solid choices for legitimate use. Spammers go to hell.

jar

@SirFoxy said:

@skippy said:
MXroute, Amazon SES. Reliability.

MXroute isn't intended to be used as an SMTP relay. Especially not for marketing.

But feel free to use it as an SMTP relay, there's not much difference between it and transactional services besides API and common web interface expectations. Except that it uses the most militantly protected IPs around, hand curated at every level to ensure the highest possibility of inbox delivery that an IP range can provide (recognizing of course that it's not all about IP reputation).

emgh

@jar said: But feel free to use it as an SMTP relay, there's not much difference between it and transactional services besides API and common web interface expectations

So automatic emails allowed?

Like verification codes, invoice reminders, payment confirmations, you get the idea

jar

@emgh said:

@jar said: But feel free to use it as an SMTP relay, there's not much difference between it and transactional services besides API and common web interface expectations

So automatic emails allowed?

Like verification codes, invoice reminders, payment confirmations, you get the idea

Absolutely. Transactional is one of the most common use cases.

emgh

@jar said:

@emgh said:

@jar said: But feel free to use it as an SMTP relay, there's not much difference between it and transactional services besides API and common web interface expectations

So automatic emails allowed?

Like verification codes, invoice reminders, payment confirmations, you get the idea

Absolutely. Transactional is one of the most common use cases.

I have no idea why I believed that was off-limits

Saahib

@Hizakura said:

@SirFoxy said:

@Hizakura said:

@SirFoxy said: You can verify on the domain level instead of email level.

I remember we have to verify all of them, did they change the rules?

You might have at one point, I forget, but now you just need to verify once per domain at the DNS level (you can also do it the per email way as well though).

Last time we used it was like 2 years ago and we had to verify the domain (DNS), as well as the email address. Maybe they changed it.

It was also same 2 years ago.

chip

Exim, as part of direct admin

tjn

Postmark, MXRoute.

WebProject

Amazon SES, Mailjet, smtp2go, Brevo

alilet

@emgh said:

@jar said: But feel free to use it as an SMTP relay, there's not much difference between it and transactional services besides API and common web interface expectations

So automatic emails allowed?

Like verification codes, invoice reminders, payment confirmations, you get the idea

I am using MXRoute as transactional email for more than 3 years.

jar

@alilet said: I am using MXRoute as transactional email for more than 3 years.

We have some very, very large customers using us for it as well

jonathann

Depends on use case.

If it's transactional email like notifications, use SES, Sendgrid, or Oracle.

If it's for business or personal email (from human to human), use MXRoute.

Using SES for personal/business email is usually fine, but sometimes I found my emails sent from SES or Sendgrid lands in recipient's "Updates" tab (in Gmail) rather than "Primary", even when all DNS and DKIM stuff is correctly set up.

Levi

Logs and bounce control is very important. Providers with api provide easy way to control list of receivers. If bounce -> remove from list. Also bounce percentage matters.

I don't knownwhy jarlandino does not bank on transactional email business venue. Customer base is here, reputation is here, knowledge is also present. Just move that lazzy ass and make transroute.com .

netsujit

@LTniger said:
Logs and bounce control is very important. Providers with api provide easy way to control list of receivers. If bounce -> remove from list. Also bounce percentage matters.

I don't knownwhy jarlandino does not bank on transactional email business venue. Customer base is here, reputation is here, knowledge is also present. Just move that lazzy ass and make transroute.com .

+1 to this

@jar start Transroute please.

emgh

Plan names (increasing in size):

• Coming Out
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• Name Change
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• First Full-Time Day
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• Therapy or Counselling
• Social Acceptance

@jar

Don't be mad at me. Generatated by GPT-4.

Headfirst

Mail.baby is the way

abangnoob

alibaba directmail is work fine for me