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imagine paying setup fee for 15 years old hardware
If port speed is imporant, then forget OVH. 100 mbps in 2023 is still pathetically laughable. It would be less pathetic if they only limited outbound to 100, but it's limited both ways unless you get lucky with their pipe lottery.
Their DDOS might be among the best but that's not helpful when a single residential gigabit user can eat your machine's entire pipe. I don't even know what use cases would thrive with a 100 or 250 mbps pipe aside from simple game servers, a "Hello World" apache page, or apps that do more data processing than hosting.
I haven't used Hetzner [yet] so no comment, though their network and lack of anti-DDOS does give me pause. At least, their entire server auction lineup has no setup fees, so they have that much going for them at least.
They run a couple of free setup promos a year.
Only if you're a new customer or commit to 12 months (12mo commit without knowing how good your service will be at all).
EDIT: Yeah sometimes for their non-eco servers they will waive setup for everyone on the monthly subscription but still one must wonder why they do that on their Rise lineup but not on the Eco ones... or limit to new customers only...
OVH's idea behind the setup fee for even older servers is that if the customer pays a setup fee, it is less likely they will cancel it within a month or two. So the setup fees are mainly to reduce server turnover, either through the psychological aspect or simply getting the customer to sign a contract or pay for a year or more upfront.
I haven't really dealt much with OVH outside a few personal projects. But I didn't enjoy their experience. Just buying the servers can be a jungle as different locations advertise different prices and offers, or at least did in my case then. After finally settling on a server then where I bought from their European website I found the offer slightly cheaper on their Canadian site and then didn't have to pay VAT.
Their control panel is slow and annoying. Hetzner robot is too but their cloud control panel is miles ahead.
I had a server go unresponsive once with OVH and their support was quite slow to help me out, and was very robotic.
I gotta give credit to Hetzner here. One of my servers seemingly had a defective RAM module. I contacted their support about a replacement and within minutes they replied if I wanted a immediate replacement, a scheduled one or a total hardware check. A bit dialogue back and forth and we scheduled a time for replacement the next day. Pretty much on the minute they initiated a replacement and done in 2 minutes. I was very impressed by that interaction.
Anywho. I clearly favor Hetzner. OVH pricing just doesn't seem competitive anymore. You almost pay double for a Ryzen 5000 series system with 32GB ram than you do for a Hetzner AX52. If you need DDOS protection go for OVH I guess.
If ur willing to pay 10 years old servers more expensive then in Hetzner then ur free to go bud. Into Hetzner you get Newly Hardware that you cant compare the pricing betwen them.
Wow this post really blew up!
im my eyes Hetzner support is much better than OVH
Hetzner reply back to you when you have a issue ovh ignores emails only chance of getting assistance is phoning them, if you get through to the UK or French team no chance in hell of getting a resolutions , but the Canadian team are great always there when needed.
its a Shame Hetzner only offers 1Gbit on there Servers other than the 10gb "20TB Cap" or charge a mint afterwards on over usage & no BGP otherwise they would be the best!
OVH Network is much better in my eyes, but they servers they offer are quite old.
there ups and downs with each and it all really depends what your hosting / using.
its a Shame OVH no longer allow there colocation , they used to offer this years ago on there Paris DC, was solid!
everyone i know will have there own take on this and knew it would be quite controversial.
but from my standpoint , I would use Hetzner for low - Medium volume systems & ovh for high / critical applications with Wasabi s3 to take backups of the instance (never trust your hosts backups - if you trust them you shouldn't be on here!)
Having worked with quite a few smaller businesses (3-20 in staff), many of them SaaS products/services of various kinds and also e-coms, I’ve never seen a single one using more than 100 mbps
And even on OVH’s ultra cheap Gaming Range where their DDoS protection is extremely good for the price, they offer 250 mbps
They also do offer gigabit speeds on a wide range of services for not too much
And their fair usage definition is extremely fair, very very rarely are they mentioned for terminainf or suspending for using too much of unlimited
If you’re willing to spend a lot more, they’re are stuff that you can get that neither OVH or especially Hetzner can offer, such as good global connectivity (including the US and asia)
So I’m in no way saying that OVH is perfect, they’re not
But they offer crazy good value, have tons of locations, the best DDoS protection in the price range (the Game line), fair unmethered definitions, good replacement support, tons of locations and often run good promotions, that’s just the truth
They surely must be doing something very right having a fairly limited selection of managed services and still being one of Europes largest cloud providers
I also believe Hetzner is better than OVH, don't get me wrong. But Hetzners DDOS protection needs some improvements too.
I'm looking for a cheap VPS. Looks like Hetzner has the best deals, but I must aquire stable 100 mbps.
-Does they're network is stable?
-it's unlimited; and it's capped at 100 mbps or 1 gbps?
Hetzner VPS’s are on a 10Gb network and you will easily reach 100Mbps, but do realize that you have a traffic cap of 20TB after which data becomes very expensive so watch out for that.
Oh, my pardon..Seems I've missed such an important detail. thanks for mentioning a 20TB cap..
Worth nothing that its unlimited incoming. They only count outgoing, so it is 20TB outgoing limit. €1 per TB outgoing traffic after.
It's basically just a null route with anything over 10G
It seems like there is consensus that Hetzner DDOS protection is trash. But is this based on recent experiences or just something that has stuck from the past?
I haven't dealth with heavy hitting DDOS attacks yet but certainly have some servers who have seen above 10Gbps that has been handled perfectly fine.
I prefer Hetzner because their support replies fast and their dedicated offer suits me (2x AX41, 2x 100TB servers, SX162 IIRC).
I would say however that both OVH and Hetzner prove that cheap can be good.
Based on recent experiences, but not my recent experiences. I now realize that it might not have been entirely Hetzner's fault since the site was not just static files. However, they failed to mitigate a literal child with a few hijacked routers, which is quite surprising.
hetzner cheap price in
ovh ddos protect and more locations
I use Hetzer dedi with Path VPS ddos protected with GRE tunnel. I used OVH so many years and i can tell by my experience that OVH sucks. Their ddos protection its trash for what they say. Hetzner does not offer Protection at all but i can never compare them with ovh because of prices and newly hardwares you get there.
Interesting solution... Personally, I am not that big of a fan of Path, but if it gets to a point where it becomes unbearable, I might consider it.
Post #73628 trashing OVH DDoS protection without mentioning which line considering it’s been covered that it’s not the same thing
Thanks, noted
Well if you are not a target of ddos attacks you dont need Path. I tried OVH,Voxility,Arbor etc and all of them failed to protect , because today exists scripts that bypasses their anti ddos and they are not doing anything to fix that. Path have all of them and yeah i dont worry anymore of attacks.