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[UPDATE] Epik as a registrar
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[UPDATE] Epik as a registrar

So for the past month I've been going through all sorts of fun with Epik, namely trying to renew a .com (that ended up expiring after I purchased the renewal)

Long story short - excuses after excuses, ended up just getting transferred out. They gave me credit to use, so I figured hey, I'll buy a .com, it's a month later, surely they're still not having issues. SAME EXACT DEAL. They can't renew/register .COM domains and they'll give you a run around until the cows come home saying "It's currently processing through our queue"

Well, 5 days of waiting in their "queue", I decided to try registering the domain I purchased at Epik at another registrar and amazingly, went through with zero issues and I was using the domain at the other registrar within 3 minutes of purchase (it's amazing how great it feels when things work like they've worked forever)

So it's safe to say Epik is just straight up scamming folks now. They'll take your money, add you to the "queue" and best case scenario, you get store credit to use at their sinking ship. I'm going to use my store credit to renew some other non-.COM TLD's and I'm transferring everything out of there today, I'm done.

Proceed with EPIK at your own risk!

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  • DPDP Administrator, The Domain Guy

    I was in the “queue” for several days as well.

    I mailed them, asked for a refund, they agreed, and will be moving out whatever I have there.

  • @DP said:
    I was in the “queue” for several days as well.

    I mailed them, asked for a refund, they agreed, and will be moving out whatever I have there.

    Thank you again for the registrar recommendation awhile back!

  • suutsuut Member

    Suggest try porkbun.

  • JasonMJasonM Member

    @Don_Keedic said: Proceed with EPIK at your own risk!

    epik will soon be out of business. deadpool.

    just check the number of daily/monthly domains they've registered. The graph is declining.

    The latest registry transaction reports show a net transfer loss of 30,596 domains in the month, with 32,287 outbound and 1,691 inbound transfers. That’s a pretty big leap up from December, where the net loss was 20,687 names. For comparison, that is second only to GoDaddy, whose primary accreditation had almost 66 million domains and just 63,943 outbound transfers in January. The total number of outgoing transfers between September, when Epik’s current management took over, and January, is over 100,000.

    Also they don't have money (deposit) to pay to registries. So even if customer pays for new domain or renewal, epik can't register it or renew it at the registry-level. so registrations/renewals fail.

    It's high time customers moved away/transferring domain away from epik.com

  • @JasonM said: just check the number of daily/monthly domains they've registered.

    ur url goes to danish registry changing their name for some reason

  • @JasonM said:

    The latest registry transaction reports show a net transfer loss of 30,596 domains in the month

    Add +290 to the running total. As of about 20 minutes ago, I'm officially out of that joint!

  • @Don_Keedic said:

    @JasonM said:

    The latest registry transaction reports show a net transfer loss of 30,596 domains in the month

    Add +290 to the running total. As of about 20 minutes ago, I'm officially out of that joint!

    do transfers out work?
    i'm aware of some(or all) renewals not working, but does transfering out work?

  • @treesmokah said:

    @Don_Keedic said:

    @JasonM said:

    The latest registry transaction reports show a net transfer loss of 30,596 domains in the month

    Add +290 to the running total. As of about 20 minutes ago, I'm officially out of that joint!

    do transfers out work?
    i'm aware of some(or all) renewals not working, but does transfering out work?

    Yes! Transfers out are working as expected!

  • @Don_Keedic said:

    @treesmokah said:

    @Don_Keedic said:

    @JasonM said:

    The latest registry transaction reports show a net transfer loss of 30,596 domains in the month

    Add +290 to the running total. As of about 20 minutes ago, I'm officially out of that joint!

    do transfers out work?
    i'm aware of some(or all) renewals not working, but does transfering out work?

    Yes! Transfers out are working as expected!

    good to know, thanks.

    Thanked by 1JasonM
  • JasonMJasonM Member

    @treesmokah said: ur url goes to danish registry changing their name for some reason

    sorry. i posted wrong copied url.
    here is the original one:
    https://domainincite.com/28750-epik-exodus-topped-100000-domains-in-january

  • DPDP Administrator, The Domain Guy
    edited May 2023

    @treesmokah said:

    @Don_Keedic said:

    @treesmokah said:

    @Don_Keedic said:

    @JasonM said:

    The latest registry transaction reports show a net transfer loss of 30,596 domains in the month

    Add +290 to the running total. As of about 20 minutes ago, I'm officially out of that joint!

    do transfers out work?
    i'm aware of some(or all) renewals not working, but does transfering out work?

    Yes! Transfers out are working as expected!

    good to know, thanks.

    Yeah, it works.

    Been moving some names out the past couple of weeks, and just a few more to go.

    EDIT:

    Damn :smiley:

    Thanked by 1JasonM
  • DonkeyDonkey Member

    Epik.com blacked my domain for dmca which was falsely reported as phishing in weekend i had to explain a lot to get domain unblacked which was not resolving for 5 days continuously due to this.

  • SirFoxySirFoxy Member

    The man, the myth, the legend… Rob Monster 😂

  • When I see something like "Keeping Alt-Right Websites Up" I automatically don't want to read it, because I'm 99% certain the article is biased. Nothing Epik was "keeping up" was illegal to do.

    Next please write an article on Namecheap and how they keep online most of the phishing sites, terrorist organization sites and child pornography - thanks.

    Thanked by 2MannDude kait
  • Francisco needs to get NameCrane up and running ASAP so I can transfer some Epik domains to him. Epik was the last free speech registrar and now its turned into a scam.

  • @4pple5auc3 said:
    Francisco needs to get NameCrane up and running ASAP so I can transfer some Epik domains to him. Epik was the last free speech registrar and now its turned into a scam.

    Give Hover(Tucows) a shot.
    Also https://ilovewww.com/ should be aight, its made by Shinjiru.

  • MannDudeMannDude Patron Provider, Veteran

    @treesmokah said:

    When I see something like "Keeping Alt-Right Websites Up" I automatically don't want to read it, because I'm 99% certain the article is biased. Nothing Epik was "keeping up" was illegal to do.

    Next please write an article on Namecheap and how they keep online most of the phishing sites, terrorist organization sites and child pornography - thanks.

    Yeah, I rolled my eyes as soon as I read the title and stopped reading there.

    Thanked by 1treesmokah
  • SirFoxySirFoxy Member
    edited May 2023

    @treesmokah said:

    When I see something like "Keeping Alt-Right Websites Up" I automatically don't want to read it, because I'm 99% certain the article is biased. Nothing Epik was "keeping up" was illegal to do.

    Next please write an article on Namecheap and how they keep online most of the phishing sites, terrorist organization sites and child pornography - thanks.

    Read the article first.

    Edit: also, sure. I’ll look into it. If there’s validity then that’d be a great topic.

  • SirFoxySirFoxy Member

    @MannDude said:

    @treesmokah said:

    When I see something like "Keeping Alt-Right Websites Up" I automatically don't want to read it, because I'm 99% certain the article is biased. Nothing Epik was "keeping up" was illegal to do.

    Next please write an article on Namecheap and how they keep online most of the phishing sites, terrorist organization sites and child pornography - thanks.

    Yeah, I rolled my eyes as soon as I read the title and stopped reading there.

    “ Plus, personally, I am a big believer in free speech, so I do think people used him solely because they supported his belief in free speech (love him or hate him). So, he certainly did have a market. Companies like BuyVM also tap into that market, but do it in a much better way.”

    Taken directly from the article.

  • @Francisco how close is namecrane?

    Thanked by 1Francisco
  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @johnnyquestion said:
    @Francisco how close is namecrane?

    Slow but on the way friend.

    Hope to see you all there :)

    Francisco

  • DPDP Administrator, The Domain Guy

    @Francisco said: Hope to see you all there :)

  • JasonMJasonM Member

    @Donkey said: Epik.com blacked my domain for dmca which was falsely reported as phishing in weekend i had to explain a lot to get domain unblacked which was not resolving for 5 days continuously due to this.

    OMG!

  • emghemgh Member
    edited May 2023

    @treesmokah said: When I see something like "Keeping Alt-Right Websites Up" I automatically don't want to read it, because I'm 99% certain the article is biased. Nothing Epik was "keeping up" was illegal to do.

    do most host want to host the stuff that Epik hosts?

    the answer is no, and the article was simply specifying that very fact

    "The Swiss Bank Of Domains" - confidentiality & integrity

    if all hosts had the same values as Epik that wouldn't be their slogan and you'd have a point

    but it is and you don't, and the article by @SirFoxy was not biased

    and also who said anything about illegal

    Thanked by 1SirFoxy
  • treesmokahtreesmokah Member
    edited May 2023

    @emgh said: do most host want to host the stuff that Epik hosts?

    the answer is no, and the article was simply specifying that very fact

    why not?
    why refuse to host something legal?
    because it hurts your feelings or doesn't match your political stances? great, keep being politically involved with your company like big corpos(ex. Vice which just went bankrupt)

    and why is article telling me to not host it?
    isn't it my decision what I host and I don't host?

    I want Epik to survive, their model of net-neutrality was very refreshing.
    If not Epik, then maybe NameCrane will continue this trend, we need more providers like this.

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @treesmokah said: then maybe NameCrane will continue this trend,

    not a maybe, it's an absolute.

    Francisco

    Thanked by 1treesmokah
  • @Francisco said:

    @treesmokah said: then maybe NameCrane will continue this trend,

    not a maybe, it's an absolute.

    Francisco

    Good to hear :)
    Not sure what ICANN accreditation allows you to do, but will you be allowed to sell .pl domains or do you have to get permission from NASK(polish domain registry)

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @treesmokah said: Not sure what ICANN accreditation allows you to do, but will you be allowed to sell .pl domains or do you have to get permission from NASK(polish domain registry)

    That's a CCTLD so i'd have to talk to NASK. NASK might require that we be accredited with ICANN, I'd have to look.

    Francisco

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  • ralfralf Member

    @treesmokah said:

    @emgh said: do most host want to host the stuff that Epik hosts?

    the answer is no, and the article was simply specifying that very fact

    why not?
    why refuse to host something legal?
    because it hurts your feelings or doesn't match your political stances? great, keep being politically involved with your company like big corpos(ex. Vice which just went bankrupt)

    There are many other reasons, the primary being that it can very easily cost the provider in time, resources and ultimately money to deal with the crap that the customer brings with them.

    A client hosting something with extreme views on either side, is making themself a target for the other side whether or not the content is technically legal, or whether it's ethical for the other side to attack it. If the fallout from DDoS attempts etc. starts to impact other customers, there's a good chance the provider can lose other customers too, as well as making a loss from increased costs. And as we've seen - if a provider's upstream threatens to pull the plug, that has massive consequences to the business that they can't just ignore if they want to stay in business.

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