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40G port;
Raid 10 disk redundancy;
Ease of backups (automatic snapshots);
USA location;
Perfect uptime (No downtime on my US VM since its launch of the US location on Hetzner);
It can easily be scalable;
The nvme disks you get are top of the line (5x more performance than the disks offered on dedicated ones);
And there is basic DDoS protection on cloud servers - there is NO DDOS PROTECTION on bare metal hetzner servers.
Clearly nobody here has actually benchmarked both, but the only valid claim is port speed (of course you can get 10gbps on dedis).
But the CPU and disks are much slower on cloud, it’s not even comparable.
Not 10 Gbit/s-Port?
Compared to AX41?
good points, i didn't check specs that thoroughly.
Doesn't look bad deal in that light at all
we got a AX41, i could do that
Yabs results:
AX51-NVME (Raid1)
CPX11
CPX51
For comparison, our MD3 with 2TB NVMe (40€ a month before discounts):
No, according to some members of the technical team it is a 40g port with redundancy.
Good job! Cloud yes!
That's great!
King Kong
AMD Ryzen™ 9 5950X
128 GB DDR4 ECC
2 x 3.84 TB NVMe SSD
1 Gbit/s-Port Guaranteed
€ 103.30 monthly
Just the Raid, the 10gbps network + snapshots option are enough to justify the +12€ difference imho
Yes, and DDoS protection.
Is the hetzner cloud better than the OVH VPS?
seems hetzner don't offer cpanel for cloud either
Yes, maybe, but Hetzner is much more cost-effective.
No clue what you guys are on about. Shared cloud maxes out at 32gb. The AX51 has 64gb. 5x better 4k iops. Way better CPU in practice (much better single thread, no noisy neighbors).
But it gets insane if you're actually deploying anything more than a toy 32gb instance. AX101 is 109 EUR in Germany and the sorta comparable CCX52 is 296 EUR.
indeed and the average task the 4k iops is most important
say webhosting, database etc. only large file stuff benefits from the bigger block sizes.
Toy?
That's amazing!
So which one do you prefer? dedi or cloud?
For us it’s the hourly billing.
We fire up a 48 core Cloud server to compile our softwares and using multi threading, compiling gets done in mere seconds. We use that server 1-hour max every month. That’s less than €1.
I can’t think of any other way to do this that is faster and cheaper. You deploy a 48 core server in a few seconds, compile your software on it blazingly fast for pennies then be done with the server.
I don’t see a reason to use such server for a full month though. It’ll cost ~€400. It’s better to get a dedicated for a full-time workload at that point.
Also everything Hetzner Cloud provides; Networks, Load Balancers, Failover IPs, Firewalls are available for their dedicated servers as well. Storage Boxes can be used for backups.
So there’s a use case for everything. If those 48 core Hetzner Cloud servers weren’t exist, we would be paying way more for some other solution.
Agree, but there is no Hetzner dedi in the US.
So any suggestions? thanks!
So do you only compile once per month? I've not used the Hetzner cloud yet, only a dedi, but everything I've said (and what you said above) says hourly billing, not per-minute or per-second.
I'm sure that being charged €1 per hour for only a few times is also worth it, but the way you've written it above strongly suggests you only use a couple of minutes at a time, and cumulatively it's less than an hour and only billed for 1 hour across the whole month.
Actually, I just checked https://docs.hetzner.com/cloud/billing/faq
Sorry my mistake. We compile a few times a month. It should be about €5 or €6 a month tops.
(typo) everything i've read
To be fair Hetzner Cloud isn't a HA environment. Its just a VPS with more features
If the server your VM on goes kaput then you're out of luck until they fix it, unless you have a second VM behind a load balancer (they are HA) which can take the load.
If you do that then use placement groups to ensure they aren't on the same physical host of course
Kaput isn’t really a technical term so it’s hard to argue your stance.
However, for example, in some (maybe limited) instances, if the server isn’t booting and it’s not the drive, I doubt their backend don’t move your instance to another node within the hypervisor.
You understand the node is the hypervisor yes?
You're right, across nodes & hypervisors. I'm tired.
My point is, I would believe their system is self-healing to some extent.
I think you would be surprised.
You might be right.
They locked me out of my account because of their actions (not charging me in time), and not allowing me to manually pay because of the ongoing charge that they're themselves still processing.
I save the error messages.
The payment gets processed, I get unlocked.
I contact support, they say I wasn't locked out because it's not in their logs.
I give them the exact error messages I was seeing, they say it didn't happen because it's not in their logs.
Not Cloud, but VPS? @Hetzner_OL
I dont know about ha, but are they using openstack with software defined storage, vrack and all those scalable infra?
Hetzner uses consumer computers for the dedi plans to offer competitive prices. Their cloud offers use real servers instead. Their income tax bracket in Germany should be ~50% so necessarily they need to cut corners to appear competitive. I used consumer computers for 20 years, but since I bought a xeon supermicro, the improvement in stability and reliability has been day and night compared to the consumer crap I previously used.
But the Yabs results of Hetzner dedis look great, even better than their clouds.