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How about SpartanHost and V.PS in comparison?
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How about SpartanHost and V.PS in comparison?

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  • Neither suits me, over.

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @SpartanHost has proper IPv6 /64 subnet.
    V.PS @xTom won't give /64 due to obscure reasons, so we classify them as an incompetent provider and do not use them.

  • xTomxTom Member, Patron Provider
    edited January 19

    @yoursunny said:
    @SpartanHost has proper IPv6 /64 subnet.
    V.PS @xTom won't give /64 due to obscure reasons, so we classify them as an incompetent provider and do not use them.

    ???

    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/3509986#Comment_3509986
    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/3473908#Comment_3473908

  • @xTom said:

    @yoursunny said:
    @SpartanHost has proper IPv6 /64 subnet.
    V.PS @xTom won't give /64 due to obscure reasons, so we classify them as an incompetent provider and do not use them.

    ???

    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/3509986#Comment_3509986
    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/3473908#Comment_3473908

    It is also common practice for services to ban entire /64's on abuse, just saying... I'm not sure that's much of a valid justification, tbh. Yes, it's one of the side-effects of having too many IPs available, but has it been that bad in order to only offer one single address despite it being a bad practice?

    Not that I wanna engage into arguments, but, huh?

    Thanked by 2drunkendog jkl9
  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @xTom said:

    @yoursunny said:
    V.PS @xTom won't give /64 due to obscure reasons, so we classify them as an incompetent provider and do not use them.

    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/3509986#Comment_3509986
    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/3473908#Comment_3473908

    So?

    Assigning less than /64 means "we are clueless about IPv6".
    Every good provider assigns IPv6 by /64 or /48, so that customers can use IPv6 services in the proper way.

    Moreover, you cannot assume potential customers to be evil.
    If you don't want to attract proxy services, you can disallow it in ToS, instead of breaking IPv6 for everyone.

    Thanked by 1drunkendog
  • xTomxTom Member, Patron Provider

    @yoursunny said:

    @xTom said:

    @yoursunny said:
    V.PS @xTom won't give /64 due to obscure reasons, so we classify them as an incompetent provider and do not use them.

    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/3509986#Comment_3509986
    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/3473908#Comment_3473908

    So?

    Assigning less than /64 means "we are clueless about IPv6".
    Every good provider assigns IPv6 by /64 or /48, so that customers can use IPv6 services in the proper way.

    Moreover, you cannot assume potential customers to be evil.
    If you don't want to attract proxy services, you can disallow it in ToS, instead of breaking IPv6 for everyone.

    So why do you say do not use them?

    Any reason you must use a /64 IPv6 address? Where do you see we are breaking IPv6 for everyone?

    Another reason we do not support /64 IPv6 is the control panel we use does not support that.

    @JeDaYoshi said: Not that I wanna engage into arguments, but, huh?

    Customers can pay to get a /48 IPv6 for his VPS or dedicated servers, we already did that for some customers.

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @xTom said:
    Any reason you must use a /64 IPv6 address?

    My apps are designed to require a separate IPv6 address in each container.
    This is how IPv6 is designed to be used.

    Where do you see we are breaking IPv6 for everyone?

    You are assigning less than /64, which breaks IPv6 for everyone.

    So why do you say do not use them?

    I do not use any provider that assumes potential customers to be evil.

    Another reason we do not support /64 IPv6 is the control panel we use does not support that.

    Switch to a different control panel that properly support routed IPv6.
    Virtualizor works passably.

  • xTomxTom Member, Patron Provider
    edited January 19

    @yoursunny said: My apps are designed to require a separate IPv6 address in each container.

    This is how IPv6 is designed to be used.

    That makes sense, you can request to pay to get a dedicated /48 IPv6 and use it.

    @yoursunny said: You are assigning less than /64, which breaks IPv6 for everyone.

    I'm afraid we can't change anything at this time.

    @yoursunny said: I do not use any provider that assumes potential customers to be evil.

    Sorry to hear that babe.

    @yoursunny said: Switch to a different control panel that properly support routed IPv6.
    Virtualizor works passably.

    There's no plan to switch to other control panel, but we are planning to build our own control panel and we will assign /64 IPv6 to each VPS.

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @xTom said:

    @yoursunny said: Switch to a different control panel that properly support routed IPv6.
    Virtualizor works passably.

    There's no plan to switch to other control panel, but we are planning to build our own control panel and we will assign /64 IPv6 to each VPS.

    When/if this happens, you would be taken off the incompetent list.
    If you make it routed IPv6 subnet (every address can be used without NDP responder), you would be enlisted on the Hall of Fame.

  • @xTom said: I'm afraid we can't change anything at this time.

    Such a WHMCS move. This is not incompetence. This, my dear unit, this is impotence.

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @xTom said:
    Another reason we do not support /64 IPv6 is the control panel we use does not support that.

    Customers can pay to get a /48 IPv6 for his VPS or dedicated servers, we already did that for some customers.

    Control panel doesn't support /64.
    /48 can be assigned to VPS, and the control panel suddenly supports it.

    So, which control panel supports /48 but doesn't support /64?

    Moreover, IPv6 PA space is practically free in RIPE region.
    If your control panel truly only supports /48, you can just give a free /48 to each VPS.

  • xTomxTom Member, Patron Provider
    edited January 19

    @yoursunny said: /48 can be assigned to VPS, and the control panel suddenly supports it.

    It's manually assignment, which needs manual work.

    The control panel doesn't support automatic assignment.

    @yoursunny said: Moreover, IPv6 PA space is practically free in RIPE region.
    If your control panel truly only supports /48, you can just give a free /48 to each VPS.

    We do support BGP sessions in some regions, customers can bring his own IPv4 an IPv6 and use it in his VPS.

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @xTom said:

    @yoursunny said: /48 can be assigned to VPS, and the control panel suddenly supports it.

    It's manually assignment, which needs manual work.

    The control panel doesn't support automatic assignment.

    I've used three other providers that perform manual IPv6 assignments or filter adjustments: HostHatch, LevelOneServers, ServerFactory.
    IPv6 assignment is free of charge despite the (little bit of) manual work.

  • xTomxTom Member, Patron Provider

    @yoursunny said: IPv6 assignment is free of charge despite the (little bit of) manual work.

    We are not free, we have to pay our engineers salary.

  • add_iTadd_iT Member
    edited January 19

    Glad & Love my limewave vps

    For only $7/month service They even give me /48 for free without complicated

    Thanked by 1yoursunny
  • V.PS is better than SpartanHost, V.PS uses CN2/AS9929 routing, Spartan only uses AS4837.
    IPv6 is redundant and useless for Chinese users.
    Not everyone needs /64, and not everyone runs Docker/Containers in a VPS.
    I am very satisfied with the San Jose mini pro from V.PS.

    Thanked by 1xTom
  • kaitkait Member

    IPv6 or GTFO

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @xTom said:

    @yoursunny said: IPv6 assignment is free of charge despite the (little bit of) manual work.

    We are not free, we have to pay our engineers salary.

    You should pay your developer salary to automate routed /64 assignment.
    Then you don't need to pay engineers anymore.

    Thanked by 2kait Ultrapassion
  • @abiaolaoge said:
    IPv6 is redundant and useless for Chinese users.

    LOL, China isn't what you THINK it is.

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