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Suggestion for a server [2]

badhon_rajbadhon_raj Member
edited December 2022 in Help

Hi, sorry, this is my 2nd topic regarding this.

Here's the first one:
https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/182902/production-site-vps-suggestion

Thank you all for your suggestions there.

For context, I want to move from my current DigitalOcean ($56/m) to reduce cost without affecting performance.

I wanted to go with hetzner CPX41
But their strict ID verification process is discouraging me to sign up with them.
also someone said they have a 2 month block on port 25.

So, from the suggestions from the first thread, I'm considering the following:

netcup RS 2000 G9.5 (20.27€/m)
There next package is a bit expensive. something in between would have been nice.
How is VPS 4000 G10 compared to this?

php-friends vServer L SSD G3 AMD (30,99 €/m)
This fits my budget. But the location is only france, right?

Please advice me if any of them has any hidden terms or something that I should be aware of.
Does they ask for my ID to sign up?
I'll buy monthly package. won't buy yearly contract.

I'm also considering hosthatch NVMe 32 GB ($29.00/m)
since I already have BF servers with them.
But their feature set is lacking, compared to the other two.
Snapshots or ddos protections are not must-have for me, but are nice-to-have.
Also there have been some drama going on with their support regrading BF servers.
I understand them, but still.
How are their support with the regular servers? I won't need any support unless there's some issue with the server, in which case I'll expect the least downtime possible.

Let me know if you have any other suggestion as well.

I'm hosting a few wordpress sites.
only three of them have significant traffic.

This is from awstat from one site. 2 more sites with about half traffic of this one each.
Not sure how accurate it is.

Again, Thanks a lot for taking the time to read my post. :)

Which one would you suggest?
  1. Which one would you suggest?20 votes
    1. Netcup
      45.00%
    2. php-friends
      30.00%
    3. HostHatch
        5.00%
    4. None of the above
      20.00%

Comments

  • @badhon_raj said: Hi, sorry, this is my 2nd topic regarding this.

    Why?

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  • @tetech said:

    @badhon_raj said: Hi, sorry, this is my 2nd topic regarding this.

    Why?

    I've added more context and now trying to decide between the mentioned one.
    I specifically want to know if there is anything regarding terms/billing etc with the above to provider that I should be aware of.

    Yet, if this looks like inappropriate, then please let me know.
    I'll delete it.

  • should> @tetech said:

    @badhon_raj said: Hi, sorry, this is my 2nd topic regarding this.

    Why?

    Should I have added this whole post as a reply to the first one?
    I thought that won't get much visibility.

    mods, please delete this topic if is inappropriate.
    Thanks.

  • Just a wild suggestion, but maybe go with a webhosting plan instead of a vps? Far more stable and hassle free. You can keep ssh access to it. Either way, I recommend Netcup.

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  • badhon_rajbadhon_raj Member
    edited December 2022

    @danielcardosopt said:
    Just a wild suggestion, but maybe go with a webhosting plan instead of a vps? Far more stable and hassle free. You can keep ssh access to it. Either way, I recommend Netcup.

    tried that route before going with digital ocean.
    price/performance is way worse.

    since you are sugesting netcup,
    can you tell me the difference in VPS 4000 G10 and RS 2000 G9.5 ?
    I mean I can see the configuration difference. which one is in terms of performance?

  • VPS has shared cores, RS has dedicated cores (you can max them out 24/7, on the vps you cannot).
    I think WordPress is a single core application, so a faster single core should be better than a lot but slower cores.

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  • @danielcardosopt said:
    VPS has shared cores, RS has dedicated cores (you can max them out 24/7, on the vps you cannot).

    Thanks, for replying. I understand this much.
    how much of sustained use will they allow with vps cpu cores?

    I think WordPress is a single core application, so a faster single core should be better than a lot but slower cores.

    I'll be using php-fpm/nginx/apache
    so it will use all available cores.

  • what will you suggest if you choose "none of the above"?

  • there is a very big difference in performance between VPS and RS, of course in favor of RS

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  • Look at siteground.com. Though, you probably missed the BF deals and might need to look at Boxing day if current offer isn't good enough.

  • update:
    After a few emails back and forth with netcup support, I got my RS 2000 G9.5 provisioned.

    They were very helpful. not very fast in replying though.
    They took 24 hours or more to reply to each mail. that resulted in taking about a week to get everything resolved.
    a Live chat option would have been nice.

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    Uptime     : 0 days, 21 hours, 51 minutes
    Processor  : AMD EPYC 7702P 64-Core Processor
    CPU cores  : 6 @ 1996.248 MHz
    AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ❌ Disabled
    RAM        : 15.6 GiB
    Swap       : 0.0 KiB
    Disk       : 314.8 GiB
    Distro     : Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)
    Kernel     : 5.10.0-19-amd64
    
    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50):
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    Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 26.11 MB/s    (6.5k) | 612.48 MB/s   (9.5k)
    Write      | 26.13 MB/s    (6.5k) | 615.71 MB/s   (9.6k)
    Total      | 52.24 MB/s   (13.0k) | 1.22 GB/s    (19.1k)
    Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 1.61 GB/s     (3.1k) | 1.71 GB/s     (1.6k)
    Write      | 1.69 GB/s     (3.3k) | 1.83 GB/s     (1.7k)
    Total      | 3.30 GB/s     (6.4k) | 3.55 GB/s     (3.4k)
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
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    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping
    -----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 1.44 Gbits/sec  | 2.19 Gbits/sec  | 26.2 ms
    Scaleway        | Paris, FR (10G)           | 1.22 Gbits/sec  | 2.35 Gbits/sec  | 29.1 ms
    NovoServe       | North Holland, NL (40G)   | 1.67 Gbits/sec  | 2.36 Gbits/sec  | 19.4 ms
    Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 60.8 Mbits/sec  | 315 Mbits/sec   | 187 ms
    Clouvider       | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | busy            | 1.69 Gbits/sec  | 98.6 ms
    Clouvider       | Dallas, TX, US (10G)      | 580 Mbits/sec   | 826 Mbits/sec   | 134 ms
    Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 564 Mbits/sec   | 825 Mbits/sec   | 161 ms
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv6):
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    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping
    -----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 1.76 Gbits/sec  | 2.19 Gbits/sec  | 26.2 ms
    Scaleway        | Paris, FR (10G)           | busy            | 2.30 Gbits/sec  | 40.4 ms
    NovoServe       | North Holland, NL (40G)   | 2.10 Gbits/sec  | 2.33 Gbits/sec  | 19.3 ms
    Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 665 Mbits/sec   | 2.14 Mbits/sec  | 187 ms
    Clouvider       | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 722 Mbits/sec   | busy            | 98.6 ms
    Clouvider       | Dallas, TX, US (10G)      | 409 Mbits/sec   | 808 Mbits/sec   | 134 ms
    Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 495 Mbits/sec   | 1.06 Gbits/sec  | 161 ms
    
    Geekbench 5 Benchmark Test:
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    Test            | Value
                    |
    Single Core     | 933
    Multi Core      | 4668
    Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/19311961
    
  • netcup is veteran here with good reputation

    their cancellation policy is kind of annoying specifically on yearly term if you miss time, you need hold it another year

    It is THE best price/spec/peeformancce ratio provider I have ever across , specially with dedicated core and instant snapshot

  • @qtwrk said:
    netcup is veteran here with good reputation

    their cancellation policy is kind of annoying specifically on yearly term if you miss time, you need hold it another year

    It is THE best price/spec/peeformancce ratio provider I have ever across , specially with dedicated core and instant snapshot

    I'm on monthly contract I believe.
    I'll have to notify one month before canceling.
    That's ok with me as long as the servers are good.

    The ID verification process was surprisingly easy.
    Thanks to them again for that.

    Another problem I faced was, they don't support card payment. Only paypal and direct bank transfer.
    I don't have paypal.

  • @qtwrk said:
    netcup is veteran here with good reputation

    their cancellation policy is kind of annoying specifically on yearly term if you miss time, you need hold it another year

    It is THE best price/spec/peeformancce ratio provider I have ever across , specially with dedicated core and instant snapshot

    They’ve stopped doing this now, everything reverts to monthly after the contract period

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