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Is Hetzner storage box good for video streaming?

letloverletlover Member
edited August 1 in General

If I rent a CPX 41 and attach a 10 TB storage box, will this be good for video streaming, like 1080p or 4k?

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  • labzelabze Member

    I've done this on a CPX21 with Plex and it works great, as long as you aren't trying to transcode 4K content.

    Thanked by 2letlover Sanjue007
  • letloverletlover Member
    edited August 1

    @labze said:
    I've done this on a CPX21 with Plex and it works great, as long as you aren't trying to transcode 4K content.

    Thank you very much for the hands on experience sharing. Very encouraging. 1080p high quality is actually good enough for most of the cases, as the majority viewers watch on smart phones. They will never see the difference between 4k and 720p high quality on those tiny screens. They say that this is the fashion to watch netflix 4k movies on phone. Good for neftlix actually. LOL.

  • Can Hetzner storage box be used for legitimate seed box?

  • serv_eeserv_ee Member

    @letlover said:
    Can Hetzner storage box be used for legitimate seed box?

    More than likely no.

    Thanked by 1letlover
  • @serv_ee said:

    @letlover said:
    Can Hetzner storage box be used for legitimate seed box?

    More than likely no.

    So KS1 still has room as a seedbox.

  • serv_eeserv_ee Member

    @letlover said:

    @serv_ee said:

    @letlover said:
    Can Hetzner storage box be used for legitimate seed box?

    More than likely no.

    So KS1 still has room as a seedbox.

    I'm not sure how Hetzner deals with those things. They might shut you off or might not do anything. I'm with another German provider for that and so far they haven't said shit.

    Thanked by 1letlover
  • ThinVpsThinVps Member

    4k plays with 0 problems on 2vcore cpu, even 1 vcpu, and with 2gb ram... aka cheap vps... if you do no transcode and play direct. To achieve that, best is use native players on mobile or pc, because browsers (edge, chrome etc) usually missing decent amount of codecs, so once its missing, server automatically starts transcoding, aka abusing cpu. 4k playing direct, only uses like 1-2% of cpu.
    plex, emby, jellyfin, all has native players, though i think only jellyfin is free.

  • @labze said:
    I've done this on a CPX21 with Plex and it works great, as long as you aren't trying to transcode 4K content.

    Can you please tell me the method of installing plex in storage box

  • dosaidosai Member

    @Sanjue007 said:

    @labze said:
    I've done this on a CPX21 with Plex and it works great, as long as you aren't trying to transcode 4K content.

    Can you please tell me the method of installing plex in storage box

    You have to install plex on CPX21 and mount storage box for media.

  • @dosai said:

    @Sanjue007 said:

    @labze said:
    I've done this on a CPX21 with Plex and it works great, as long as you aren't trying to transcode 4K content.

    Can you please tell me the method of installing plex in storage box

    You have to install plex on CPX21 and mount storage box for media.

    sshfs mount?

  • dosaidosai Member

    @cybertech said:

    @dosai said:

    @Sanjue007 said:

    @labze said:
    I've done this on a CPX21 with Plex and it works great, as long as you aren't trying to transcode 4K content.

    Can you please tell me the method of installing plex in storage box

    You have to install plex on CPX21 and mount storage box for media.

    sshfs mount?

    Yes, sshfc or nfs.

  • You can't mount as NFS, it's not supported. I suggest using CIFS. Better performance.

    Thanked by 1letlover
  • @dosai said:

    @cybertech said:

    @dosai said:

    @Sanjue007 said:

    @labze said:
    I've done this on a CPX21 with Plex and it works great, as long as you aren't trying to transcode 4K content.

    Can you please tell me the method of installing plex in storage box

    You have to install plex on CPX21 and mount storage box for media.

    sshfs mount?

    Yes, sshfc or nfs.

    Any tutorial for a noob.? :'(

  • cpsdcpsd Member

    @Sanjue007 said:
    Any tutorial for a noob.? :'(

    apt install cifs-utils
    mkdir /mnt/bx

    mount.cifs -o user=uXXXXXX,pass=XXXXX //uXXXXXX.your-storagebox.de/backup /mnt/bx

    cd /mnt/bx
    ...your files are mounted here

  • @CalmDown said:
    You can't mount as NFS, it's not supported. I suggest using CIFS. Better performance.

    CIFS vs SSHFS which is better?

  • ErisaErisa Member

    @cybertech said:

    @CalmDown said:
    You can't mount as NFS, it's not supported. I suggest using CIFS. Better performance.

    CIFS vs SSHFS which is better?

    Over a short distance (Within the same Hetzner region), CIFS usually comes across as more reliable. But SSHFS feels better for long distance usage.

    Disclaimer: above is anecdotal based on memories of experience, may not be fully accurate.

  • cpsdcpsd Member

    @cybertech said:

    @CalmDown said:
    You can't mount as NFS, it's not supported. I suggest using CIFS. Better performance.

    CIFS vs SSHFS which is better?

    SCP is faster than cifs if you want to copy/from their storage boxes.

  • @serv_ee said:

    @letlover said:

    @serv_ee said:

    @letlover said:
    Can Hetzner storage box be used for legitimate seed box?

    More than likely no.

    So KS1 still has room as a seedbox.

    I'm not sure how Hetzner deals with those things. They might shut you off or might not do anything. I'm with another German provider for that and so far they haven't said shit.

    netcup has storage also?

  • PHP_FriendsPHP_Friends Member, Host Rep

    We have also Storage (FTPS/SMB) including unlimited traffic which has some nice speeds :)

    500GB = 6,90€
    1TB = 9,90€
    2TB = 17,90€
    3TB = 24,90€
    5TB = 29,90€
    10TB = 49,90€
    20TB = 99,90€

    Incl. 19 % VAT.

    Thanked by 2letlover jureve
  • hkbbdxhkbbdx Member

    hetzner bx11 1T =2.9€

    @PHP_Friends said:
    We have also Storage (FTPS/SMB) including unlimited traffic which has some nice speeds :)

    500GB = 6,90€
    1TB = 9,90€
    2TB = 17,90€
    3TB = 24,90€
    5TB = 29,90€
    10TB = 49,90€
    20TB = 99,90€

    Incl. 19 % VAT.

  • PHP_FriendsPHP_Friends Member, Host Rep

    @hkbbdx said:
    hetzner bx11 1T =2.9€

    @PHP_Friends said:
    We have also Storage (FTPS/SMB) including unlimited traffic which has some nice speeds :)

    500GB = 6,90€
    1TB = 9,90€
    2TB = 17,90€
    3TB = 24,90€
    5TB = 29,90€
    10TB = 49,90€
    20TB = 99,90€

    Incl. 19 % VAT.

    I didn't say we were cheaper than Hetzner - we don't want to be :)

  • @PHP_Friends said:
    We have also Storage (FTPS/SMB) including unlimited traffic which has some nice speeds :)

    500GB = 6,90€
    1TB = 9,90€
    2TB = 17,90€
    3TB = 24,90€
    5TB = 29,90€
    10TB = 49,90€
    20TB = 99,90€

    Incl. 19 % VAT.

    very nice

  • letloverletlover Member
    edited August 2

    @PHP_Friends said:
    We have also Storage (FTPS/SMB) including unlimited traffic which has some nice speeds :)

    500GB = 6,90€
    1TB = 9,90€
    2TB = 17,90€
    3TB = 24,90€
    5TB = 29,90€
    10TB = 49,90€
    20TB = 99,90€

    Incl. 19 % VAT.

    Maybe this is true dedicated resource so it is more expensive than Hetzner's boxes?
    If it is dedicated, it is very interesting, because disk io speed is guaranteed.

  • I have a dedi from the Auction now but I have used a VPS + Storage Box before and it did work just fine. Maybe just a little longer buffering. It's better if you store the media on the Storage Box but use the local disk for the Plex temp files though.

    Thanked by 1letlover
  • @dosai said:

    @cybertech said:

    @dosai said:

    @Sanjue007 said:

    @labze said:
    I've done this on a CPX21 with Plex and it works great, as long as you aren't trying to transcode 4K content.

    Can you please tell me the method of installing plex in storage box

    You have to install plex on CPX21 and mount storage box for media.

    sshfs mount?

    Yes, sshfc or nfs.

    NFS is not supported. I mounted with cifs. sshfs would be too slow.

    Thanked by 1dosai
  • @cpsd said:

    @cybertech said:

    @CalmDown said:
    You can't mount as NFS, it's not supported. I suggest using CIFS. Better performance.

    CIFS vs SSHFS which is better?

    SCP is faster than cifs if you want to copy/from their storage boxes.

    how can SCP be faster than cifs if it has the encryption overhead etc?

  • @letlover said:

    @PHP_Friends said:
    We have also Storage (FTPS/SMB) including unlimited traffic which has some nice speeds :)

    500GB = 6,90€
    1TB = 9,90€
    2TB = 17,90€
    3TB = 24,90€
    5TB = 29,90€
    10TB = 49,90€
    20TB = 99,90€

    Incl. 19 % VAT.

    Maybe this is true dedicated resource so it is more expensive than Hetzner's boxes?
    If it is dedicated, it is very interesting, because disk io speed is guaranteed.

    It's not dedicated but you don't have limitations like max. 10 concurrent connections which sucks for plex. I tested both of them and php-friends is way better for this, their storage has indeed nice speeds, for plex it felt even faster than a local WD RED lol
    I had several concurrent 4k streams (few with transcoding) and had not a single buffer.

    Thanked by 1letlover
  • letloverletlover Member
    edited August 3

    @NothingTV said:

    @letlover said:

    @PHP_Friends said:
    We have also Storage (FTPS/SMB) including unlimited traffic which has some nice speeds :)

    500GB = 6,90€
    1TB = 9,90€
    2TB = 17,90€
    3TB = 24,90€
    5TB = 29,90€
    10TB = 49,90€
    20TB = 99,90€

    Incl. 19 % VAT.

    Maybe this is true dedicated resource so it is more expensive than Hetzner's boxes?
    If it is dedicated, it is very interesting, because disk io speed is guaranteed.

    It's not dedicated but you don't have limitations like max. 10 concurrent connections which sucks for plex. I tested both of them and php-friends is way better for this, their storage has indeed nice speeds, for plex it felt even faster than a local WD RED lol
    I had several concurrent 4k streams (few with transcoding) and had not a single buffer.

    This is very promising. Not sure why Hetzner sets limits for concurrent users for its storage boxes, maybe to reduce IO stress. I like php friends's way better.

  • ErisaErisa Member

    @letlover said:

    @NothingTV said:

    @letlover said:

    @PHP_Friends said:
    We have also Storage (FTPS/SMB) including unlimited traffic which has some nice speeds :)

    500GB = 6,90€
    1TB = 9,90€
    2TB = 17,90€
    3TB = 24,90€
    5TB = 29,90€
    10TB = 49,90€
    20TB = 99,90€

    Incl. 19 % VAT.

    Maybe this is true dedicated resource so it is more expensive than Hetzner's boxes?
    If it is dedicated, it is very interesting, because disk io speed is guaranteed.

    It's not dedicated but you don't have limitations like max. 10 concurrent connections which sucks for plex. I tested both of them and php-friends is way better for this, their storage has indeed nice speeds, for plex it felt even faster than a local WD RED lol
    I had several concurrent 4k streams (few with transcoding) and had not a single buffer.

    This is very promising. Not sure why Hetzner sets limits for concurrent users for its storage boxes, maybe to reduce IO stress. I like php friends's way better.

    Based on my testing I did prior, the concurrent connections actually applies per each incoming IP address rather than for each Storage Box or user/subuser.

    e.g. I made 10 connections towards a Storage Box (Over HTTPS with WebDAV) and attempting to make an 11th would hang until the previous 10 have completed. While those 10 connections were ongoing I could open another 10 from a separate machine with a different IP address.

    It is not clear if this is intentional or not.

    As far as CIFS goes, I do not know whether each file access counts as a separate connection but I sort of doubt it considering some of the I/O I've managed with a Storage Box. I would imagine it is per mount per IP address instead in that case.

    Thanked by 1letlover
  • @Erisa said:

    @letlover said:

    @NothingTV said:

    @letlover said:

    @PHP_Friends said:
    We have also Storage (FTPS/SMB) including unlimited traffic which has some nice speeds :)

    500GB = 6,90€
    1TB = 9,90€
    2TB = 17,90€
    3TB = 24,90€
    5TB = 29,90€
    10TB = 49,90€
    20TB = 99,90€

    Incl. 19 % VAT.

    Maybe this is true dedicated resource so it is more expensive than Hetzner's boxes?
    If it is dedicated, it is very interesting, because disk io speed is guaranteed.

    It's not dedicated but you don't have limitations like max. 10 concurrent connections which sucks for plex. I tested both of them and php-friends is way better for this, their storage has indeed nice speeds, for plex it felt even faster than a local WD RED lol
    I had several concurrent 4k streams (few with transcoding) and had not a single buffer.

    This is very promising. Not sure why Hetzner sets limits for concurrent users for its storage boxes, maybe to reduce IO stress. I like php friends's way better.

    Based on my testing I did prior, the concurrent connections actually applies per each incoming IP address rather than for each Storage Box or user/subuser.

    e.g. I made 10 connections towards a Storage Box (Over HTTPS with WebDAV) and attempting to make an 11th would hang until the previous 10 have completed. While those 10 connections were ongoing I could open another 10 from a separate machine with a different IP address.

    It is not clear if this is intentional or not.

    This is much better. As you can have a mysql database on the storage box, and have several nginx servers in front of it, each can access the database 10 concurrent connections. If putting varnish or redis upfront to cache the static content to reduce the database access, it may work for a high traffic website.

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