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Is latency and server location a mystery or real concern?
Seems to me, for web hosting, trans ocean transmission does not matter much. Although noticeable, but not critically affecting the web surfing experience.
For online gaming, you want as short latency as possible, for sure, you can see the significant difference in your gaming results.
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Yes, hence I do operate a global route bending network.
This does enable me low latency, even to the end of this dam planet, except Australia.
https://blyatconnect.ru/network
10/10 best network, would route my packages anytime.
My personal favorite, playing on Japanese Gameservers with 160ms from Europe.
Front running is a huge concern
It depends. For fairly lightweight web sites that are well-designed and don't block on requests for additional media, scripts, etc., it's not that noticeable. But latency also affects performance for large file transfers, since the TCP window can fill up while the sender is waiting for the receiver's ACKs, and will be scaled up less quickly. If you serve those heavy files via a CDN, then that might be a good compromise.
Finally, a provider that supports morse code!
Yes! We even maybe adding support for smoke signs.
what is Front running
When someone steals information and then takes a shorter route to get to the destination first.
hijacking?
If you have the kind of workload where that's an issue, you can afford to optimize your servers' locations and wouldn't be asking this question. 🤷
STBO
Speaking of which, I reconfigured my optimizer network yesterday.
I forgot to turn on the optimizer.
Result after turning it on.
If someone asks how this is possible, well, the default option is off.
High frequency trading
It doesn't matter if you use global CDN such as CF to host websites.
But it really matters when you're choosing game server or VPN server.
It still matters with CDN, dynamic content is requested from origin, routing to origin doesnt need to be direct and routing can be mess, especially on Free Plan.
TerraHost Norway fastest CF route is Amsterdam with 51ms. If your visitors are from Norway then enjoy 100ms+ ping on CF, CDN actually slows down your website here. If you host in AMS then it will have lower latency to Norway than hosting in Norway if you use CF. Without CF theres no such routing problem.
Same (or worse) story with Asia -> Asia. On free plan it will get routed to LA pretty much always, causing even bigger difference in latencies. It is actually faster to have server in LA than in Asia if you want to serve Asia clients.
Location matters always.
It is important always, international routing can be mess, pipes can be really slow (like 5-10Mbps slow) or it can drop many packets.
Provider says "1G port", but if you want to route this traffic to other continent then good luck with low end providers. Ive personally saw 5Mbps with like 500km distance, route was that bad. Good luck hosting any video on such pipe
Latency matters, if the end-user or your purpose is one of these
1) CDN for small files
2) Gaming
Maybe more.
Latency isn't as much of an issue as is traffic congestion. As you try to transfer data across greater distances, the chance you'll hit a router that's congested increases significantly. So yes, I think server location matters but realistically, as long as you're on the same continent as your users it shouldn't matter much more than that.
What? CF has Oslo
Yes, however on a free account, you may get worse routes or not always the best locations. If you pay them, you get the best that they can give to you.
They also have Warsaw, but 99%+ of traffic Warsaw-Warsaw is routed through Budapest. It changes in Business plan.
Cloudflare is free, because it is not the same product as paid one, they give you unused, cheap links that they need anyway to absorb DDoS attacks for big clients.
You can actually use so-called premium PoPs if you can afford to use Workers to proxy traffic. Once you have a route set-up, any Cloudflare IP you put in the A record works without enabling the orange. Just steal one from a website you think enjoys a higher tier Cloudflare plan. It once worked with 1.1.1.1 as well but AFAICR that IP was blacklisted and many sites using that hack were broken. Even works with the IPs of BYOIP customers of Cloudflare, e.g., http://192.0.54.10 from AS62659.
There is no free lunch.
Holy shit, now that's a crazy idea
So setup fake A record and make worker that proxies 100% of traffic to your IP instead of that in A record?
seems the free lunch can have caviar by some trick.
Thanks for pointing this out!
Oh, yes. We don't want to use Cloudflare with Asian servers because of the terrible routing. But sometimes we also need DDoS protection, so we have to.
I used to be paranoid about latency but I think that as long as it's below 250ms it's not too noticeable IMO.
Gotta love that network 😂
What is 楠格 on CloudFlare, some Asian route?
From EU to US is about 250 to 300 ms, as the ping is about 250-300 on the NA gaming server using my EU VPN server. Correct me if I am wrong.
Almost all EU locations to East Coast are below 100ms.
Frankfurt to NY - 79ms
64 bytes from 185.59.223.8: icmp_seq=1 ttl=59 time=79.9 ms
64 bytes from 185.59.223.8: icmp_seq=2 ttl=59 time=79.9 ms
EU to West Coast will be around 150ms.
London to LA:
64 bytes from 185.152.67.2: icmp_seq=1 ttl=58 time=147 ms
64 bytes from 185.152.67.2: icmp_seq=2 ttl=58 time=147 ms
250 to 300 would be EU to JP/AU/NZ.