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What is Threadripper VPS ?

GhtGht Member

Hello

Can anyone explain what is Threadripper VPS ?

Thanks

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  • AXYZEAXYZE Member
    edited June 13

    VPS with AMD Threadripper CPU

    It was bridge between AMD Ryzen (low core, high mhz) and AMD EPYC (high core, low mhz).

    AMD doesnt make them anymore after Zen3 release as Ryzen chips are up to 16 cores and EPYC chips can be high frequency.
    So Threaripper VPS will have a little bit older cores which are not as fast as Ryzen 5xxx/EPYC 7xx3.

    You are looking at EPYC 7xx2 performance if its Threadriper 3xxx and EPYC 7xx1 if its Threadripper 1xxx.
    There is big gap between 1 and 2 generation so I wouldnt recommend 1xxx / 7xx1, you should find a lot better options with Xeon 2xxxV4.
    2nd gen 3xxx / 7xx2 is still very fast, but generation behind. :)

    Or to make it more clear
    Zen1 = EPYC 7xx1, Threadripper 1xxx, Ryzen 1xxx
    Zen1+ (same shit as standard Zen1) = Threadripper 2xxx, Ryzen 2xxx
    Zen2 = EPYC 7xx2, Threaripper 3xxx, Ryzen 3xxx
    Zen3 = EPYC 7xx3, Ryzen 5xxx. No threadripper.

    There's huge difference between Zen1 and Zen2. Smaller difference bwtween Zen2 and Zen3.

    Zen2 is sweetspot if you look at offers here. Lower proce, still great performance.

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  • ralfralf Member

    I always thought the threadripper name would be better used for particularly high velocity flatulence.

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  • @AXYZE said:
    Zen3 = EPYC 7xx3, Ryzen 5xxx. No threadripper.

    https://www.amd.com/en/product/11786

  • SaahibSaahib Member, Host Rep
    edited June 13

    Since you got explanation already, you need to know one more thing that threadripper vps can it rip threads of very reality and can cause chaos where you may end up using CPU power from alternate universe.

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  • GhtGht Member
    edited June 13

    I just got a VPS with these specs

    AMD Ryzen Threadripper PRO 3975WX 32-Cores
    4 CPU x 4.20 GHz
    16 GB DDR4 ECC RAM
    120 GB Gen. 4 NVMe Storage
    20 Gbps Network @ 25 TB

    So i was asking if this a better server than a normal one ?

  • ralfralf Member

    @Ght said:
    So i was asking if this a better server than a normal one ?

    Define "normal one". It's definitely better than a KS-1.

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  • GhtGht Member

    @ralf said:

    @Ght said:
    So i was asking if this a better server than a normal one ?

    Define "normal one". It's definitely better than a KS-1.

    Actually have KS-2 and got this one that has 20Gbit Uplink instead of KS-2 100mbps

  • AXYZEAXYZE Member
    edited June 13

    @MallocVoidstar said:

    @AXYZE said:
    Zen3 = EPYC 7xx3, Ryzen 5xxx. No threadripper.

    https://www.amd.com/en/product/11786

    Well I forgot about that one, because that's custom CPU made for older workstations (such as Lenovo P620) in order to provide upgrade path. They are not available anywhere else, only from OEM channels for these workstations. You wont find them in the shops or in servers.

  • AXYZEAXYZE Member

    @Ght said:

    @ralf said:

    @Ght said:
    So i was asking if this a better server than a normal one ?

    Define "normal one". It's definitely better than a KS-1.

    Actually have KS-2 and got this one that has 20Gbit Uplink instead of KS-2 100mbps

    20Gbps uplink? Show yabs

  • GhtGht Member

    @AXYZE said:

    @Ght said:

    @ralf said:

    @Ght said:
    So i was asking if this a better server than a normal one ?

    Define "normal one". It's definitely better than a KS-1.

    Actually have KS-2 and got this one that has 20Gbit Uplink instead of KS-2 100mbps

    20Gbps uplink? Show yabs

    They told me this

    The VPS will be connected to a 2x10Gbps connection in LACP mode, which adds to 20Gbps.

    Here the yabs ps/ this one doesnt work for some reason curl -sL yabs.sh | bash

    -------------------- A Bench.sh Script By Teddysun -------------------
     Version            : v2022-06-01
     Usage              : wget -qO- bench.sh | bash
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
     CPU Model          : AMD Ryzen Threadripper PRO 3975WX 32-Cores
     CPU Cores          : 4 @ 3493.436 MHz
     CPU Cache          : 512 KB
     AES-NI             : Enabled
     VM-x/AMD-V         : Enabled
     Total Disk         : 117.1 GB (33.0 GB Used)
     Total Mem          : 15.6 GB (504.0 MB Used)
     Total Swap         : 1023.0 MB (0 Used)
     System uptime      : 0 days, 0 hour 34 min
     Load average       : 0.03, 0.01, 0.00
     OS                 : Ubuntu 20.04.4 LTS
     Arch               : x86_64 (64 Bit)
     Kernel             : 5.4.0-117-generic
     TCP CC             : cubic
     Virtualization     : KVM
     Organization       : Voxility LLP
     Location           : Frankfurt am Main / DE
     Region             : Hesse
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
     I/O Speed(1st run) : 1.4 GB/s
     I/O Speed(2nd run) : 1.5 GB/s
     I/O Speed(3rd run) : 1.5 GB/s
     I/O Speed(average) : 1501.9 MB/s
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
     Node Name        Upload Speed      Download Speed      Latency
     Speedtest.net    8579.62 Mbps      6018.95 Mbps        0.51 ms
     Los Angeles, US  638.11 Mbps       2988.76 Mbps        142.63 ms
     Dallas, US       779.00 Mbps       4562.61 Mbps        117.31 ms
     Montreal, CA     216.13 Mbps       934.37 Mbps         95.62 ms
     Paris, FR        5894.23 Mbps      8629.23 Mbps        15.73 ms
     Amsterdam, NL    8564.99 Mbps      8425.27 Mbps        7.78 ms
     Shanghai, CN     1.74 Mbps         2862.15 Mbps        259.31 ms
     Nanjing, CN      65.94 Mbps        2381.92 Mbps        253.74 ms
     Guangzhou, CN    0.93 Mbps         431.63 Mbps         261.53 ms
     Hongkong, CN     0.86 Mbps         2955.57 Mbps        283.14 ms
     Seoul, KR        176.95 Mbps       630.67 Mbps         254.95 ms
     Singapore, SG    283.74 Mbps       383.09 Mbps         312.71 ms
     Tokyo, JP        285.55 Mbps       2302.47 Mbps        320.40 ms
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
     Finished in        : 6 min 49 sec
     Timestamp          : 2022-06-13 17:38:28 CEST
    
  • emghemgh Member

    @Ght said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @Ght said:

    @ralf said:

    @Ght said:
    So i was asking if this a better server than a normal one ?

    Define "normal one". It's definitely better than a KS-1.

    Actually have KS-2 and got this one that has 20Gbit Uplink instead of KS-2 100mbps

    20Gbps uplink? Show yabs

    They told me this

    The VPS will be connected to a 2x10Gbps connection in LACP mode, which adds to 20Gbps.

    Here the yabs ps/ this one doesnt work for some reason curl -sL yabs.sh | bash

    -------------------- A Bench.sh Script By Teddysun -------------------
     Version            : v2022-06-01
     Usage              : wget -qO- bench.sh | bash
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
     CPU Model          : AMD Ryzen Threadripper PRO 3975WX 32-Cores
     CPU Cores          : 4 @ 3493.436 MHz
     CPU Cache          : 512 KB
     AES-NI             : Enabled
     VM-x/AMD-V         : Enabled
     Total Disk         : 117.1 GB (33.0 GB Used)
     Total Mem          : 15.6 GB (504.0 MB Used)
     Total Swap         : 1023.0 MB (0 Used)
     System uptime      : 0 days, 0 hour 34 min
     Load average       : 0.03, 0.01, 0.00
     OS                 : Ubuntu 20.04.4 LTS
     Arch               : x86_64 (64 Bit)
     Kernel             : 5.4.0-117-generic
     TCP CC             : cubic
     Virtualization     : KVM
     Organization       : Voxility LLP
     Location           : Frankfurt am Main / DE
     Region             : Hesse
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
     I/O Speed(1st run) : 1.4 GB/s
     I/O Speed(2nd run) : 1.5 GB/s
     I/O Speed(3rd run) : 1.5 GB/s
     I/O Speed(average) : 1501.9 MB/s
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
     Node Name        Upload Speed      Download Speed      Latency
     Speedtest.net    8579.62 Mbps      6018.95 Mbps        0.51 ms
     Los Angeles, US  638.11 Mbps       2988.76 Mbps        142.63 ms
     Dallas, US       779.00 Mbps       4562.61 Mbps        117.31 ms
     Montreal, CA     216.13 Mbps       934.37 Mbps         95.62 ms
     Paris, FR        5894.23 Mbps      8629.23 Mbps        15.73 ms
     Amsterdam, NL    8564.99 Mbps      8425.27 Mbps        7.78 ms
     Shanghai, CN     1.74 Mbps         2862.15 Mbps        259.31 ms
     Nanjing, CN      65.94 Mbps        2381.92 Mbps        253.74 ms
     Guangzhou, CN    0.93 Mbps         431.63 Mbps         261.53 ms
     Hongkong, CN     0.86 Mbps         2955.57 Mbps        283.14 ms
     Seoul, KR        176.95 Mbps       630.67 Mbps         254.95 ms
     Singapore, SG    283.74 Mbps       383.09 Mbps         312.71 ms
     Tokyo, JP        285.55 Mbps       2302.47 Mbps        320.40 ms
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
     Finished in        : 6 min 49 sec
     Timestamp          : 2022-06-13 17:38:28 CEST
    

    I’d say 10 gbit.

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    Threadripper VPS: a VPS so fast that you want to rip all the threads out of your clothes.

    But then, Ryzen is for desktop.
    Serious data center runs EPYC, Xeon, and Ampere.

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  • GhtGht Member

    @yoursunny said:
    Threadripper VPS: a VPS so fast that you want to rip all the threads out of your clothes.

    But then, Ryzen is for desktop.
    Serious data center runs EPYC, Xeon, and Ampere.

    It's good for gaming puropuses ?

  • ralfralf Member

    @Ght said:
    It's good for gaming puropuses ?

    Can confirm minesweeper runs without any problems.

    Thanked by 1szymonp
  • szymonpszymonp Member

    @Ght said:

    @yoursunny said:
    Threadripper VPS: a VPS so fast that you want to rip all the threads out of your clothes.

    But then, Ryzen is for desktop.
    Serious data center runs EPYC, Xeon, and Ampere.

    It's good for gaming puropuses ?

    You mean hosting gameservers? Often that requires high single-core and 3,5 GHz is not crazy high but it should be ok

  • _cece_cece Member

    it should be fine for a gameserver host

  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator

    @ralf said: I always thought the threadripper name would be better used for particularly high velocity flatulence.

    When I first heard this brand I thought...you mean...a chip that semi-rapes women?

    The term bodice ripper - and bodices are made out of threads - is a popular subgenre of romantic fiction. A typical plot is one in which the heroine is ensnared by an aggressive male who overcomes her reluctance (hence the ripping of the bodice)...and then of course they all live happily ever after. More fairy tale-like than Deshaun Watson-like.

  • @AXYZE said:
    VPS with AMD Threadripper CPU

    It was bridge between AMD Ryzen (low core, high mhz) and AMD EPYC (high core, low mhz).

    AMD doesnt make them anymore after Zen3 release as Ryzen chips are up to 16 cores and EPYC chips can be high frequency.
    So Threaripper VPS will have a little bit older cores which are not as fast as Ryzen 5xxx/EPYC 7xx3.

    You are looking at EPYC 7xx2 performance if its Threadriper 3xxx and EPYC 7xx1 if its Threadripper 1xxx.
    There is big gap between 1 and 2 generation so I wouldnt recommend 1xxx / 7xx1, you should find a lot better options with Xeon 2xxxV4.
    2nd gen 3xxx / 7xx2 is still very fast, but generation behind. :)

    Or to make it more clear
    Zen1 = EPYC 7xx1, Threadripper 1xxx, Ryzen 1xxx
    Zen1+ (same shit as standard Zen1) = Threadripper 2xxx, Ryzen 2xxx
    Zen2 = EPYC 7xx2, Threaripper 3xxx, Ryzen 3xxx
    Zen3 = EPYC 7xx3, Ryzen 5xxx. No threadripper.

    There's huge difference between Zen1 and Zen2. Smaller difference bwtween Zen2 and Zen3.

    Zen2 is sweetspot if you look at offers here. Lower proce, still great performance.

    They're still making threadrippers and will continue to. I think you're referring to an early article that made it sound like there wasn't a need because of core count and because they weren't mentioned on a short term road map. But that was for days before reports of next generation ones on the roadmap.

    https://www.amd.com/en/press-releases/2022-03-08-new-amd-ryzen-threadripper-pro-5000-wx-series-processors-are-the-ultimate

  • AXYZEAXYZE Member
    edited June 14

    @TimboJones said:

    @AXYZE said:
    VPS with AMD Threadripper CPU

    It was bridge between AMD Ryzen (low core, high mhz) and AMD EPYC (high core, low mhz).

    AMD doesnt make them anymore after Zen3 release as Ryzen chips are up to 16 cores and EPYC chips can be high frequency.
    So Threaripper VPS will have a little bit older cores which are not as fast as Ryzen 5xxx/EPYC 7xx3.

    You are looking at EPYC 7xx2 performance if its Threadriper 3xxx and EPYC 7xx1 if its Threadripper 1xxx.
    There is big gap between 1 and 2 generation so I wouldnt recommend 1xxx / 7xx1, you should find a lot better options with Xeon 2xxxV4.
    2nd gen 3xxx / 7xx2 is still very fast, but generation behind. :)

    Or to make it more clear
    Zen1 = EPYC 7xx1, Threadripper 1xxx, Ryzen 1xxx
    Zen1+ (same shit as standard Zen1) = Threadripper 2xxx, Ryzen 2xxx
    Zen2 = EPYC 7xx2, Threaripper 3xxx, Ryzen 3xxx
    Zen3 = EPYC 7xx3, Ryzen 5xxx. No threadripper.

    There's huge difference between Zen1 and Zen2. Smaller difference bwtween Zen2 and Zen3.

    Zen2 is sweetspot if you look at offers here. Lower proce, still great performance.

    They're still making threadrippers and will continue to. I think you're referring to an early article that made it sound like there wasn't a need because of core count and because they weren't mentioned on a short term road map. But that was for days before reports of next generation ones on the roadmap.

    https://www.amd.com/en/press-releases/2022-03-08-new-amd-ryzen-threadripper-pro-5000-wx-series-processors-are-the-ultimate

    You missed my other reply.
    I said:
    "Well I forgot about that one, because that's custom CPU made for older workstations (such as Lenovo P620) in order to provide upgrade path. They are not available anywhere else, only from OEM channels for these workstations. You wont find them in the shops or in servers."

    Your source further proves it
    "We’re excited to continue working closely with AMD to bring the next generation of the ThinkStation P620"

    Its like a chip for Xbox or Playstation. Its customized for one company and you cant buy just CPU in shop.

  • @AXYZE said:

    @TimboJones said:

    @AXYZE said:
    VPS with AMD Threadripper CPU

    It was bridge between AMD Ryzen (low core, high mhz) and AMD EPYC (high core, low mhz).

    AMD doesnt make them anymore after Zen3 release as Ryzen chips are up to 16 cores and EPYC chips can be high frequency.
    So Threaripper VPS will have a little bit older cores which are not as fast as Ryzen 5xxx/EPYC 7xx3.

    You are looking at EPYC 7xx2 performance if its Threadriper 3xxx and EPYC 7xx1 if its Threadripper 1xxx.
    There is big gap between 1 and 2 generation so I wouldnt recommend 1xxx / 7xx1, you should find a lot better options with Xeon 2xxxV4.
    2nd gen 3xxx / 7xx2 is still very fast, but generation behind. :)

    Or to make it more clear
    Zen1 = EPYC 7xx1, Threadripper 1xxx, Ryzen 1xxx
    Zen1+ (same shit as standard Zen1) = Threadripper 2xxx, Ryzen 2xxx
    Zen2 = EPYC 7xx2, Threaripper 3xxx, Ryzen 3xxx
    Zen3 = EPYC 7xx3, Ryzen 5xxx. No threadripper.

    There's huge difference between Zen1 and Zen2. Smaller difference bwtween Zen2 and Zen3.

    Zen2 is sweetspot if you look at offers here. Lower proce, still great performance.

    They're still making threadrippers and will continue to. I think you're referring to an early article that made it sound like there wasn't a need because of core count and because they weren't mentioned on a short term road map. But that was for days before reports of next generation ones on the roadmap.

    https://www.amd.com/en/press-releases/2022-03-08-new-amd-ryzen-threadripper-pro-5000-wx-series-processors-are-the-ultimate

    You missed my other reply.
    I said:
    "Well I forgot about that one, because that's custom CPU made for older workstations (such as Lenovo P620) in order to provide upgrade path. They are not available anywhere else, only from OEM channels for these workstations. You wont find them in the shops or in servers."

    Your source further proves it
    "We’re excited to continue working closely with AMD to bring the next generation of the ThinkStation P620"

    Its like a chip for Xbox or Playstation. Its customized for one company and you cant buy just CPU in shop.

    I was also arguing with:

    AMD doesnt make them anymore after Zen3 release as Ryzen chips are up to 16 cores and EPYC chips can be high frequency

    They're making Threadrippers on Zen4. The Director of AMD's marketing has stated so in Toms Hardware interview.

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