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I am eying on to this storage dedi but I am in trouble as soon as I saw it.
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I am eying on to this storage dedi but I am in trouble as soon as I saw it.

yongsikleeyongsiklee Member, Patron Provider
edited June 2022 in General

What should I do with this many TBs (40TB)?

**€43.70 / month
69h 23m left

Intel Xeon E3-1271V3
(CPU-B 7470)

4x 10 TB

Ent. HDD

32 GB

ECC

Ent. HDDiNICIPv4

General

Server AuctionID: 1724383
DC: #HEL1-DC2 (HEL)
Traffic: unlimited

Information

4x RAM 8192 MB DDR3 ECC
4x HDD SATA 10 TB Enterprise
NIC 1 Gbit - Intel I210

Support services

replacement of defective hardware
free email support
free phone support

Price

€43.70 exclusive VAT
No Setup Fees**
What should I do with this many TBs.
  1. What should I do with this many TBs?75 votes
    1. Buy it no matter what.
      32.00%
    2. Do not buy and try to forget you have the option to do anything with the money you have.
      22.67%
    3. Exit LET.
      45.33%
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Comments

  • edited June 2022

    That's a good one to share with someone else. 16GB RAM, 2c-4000CPUB, 20TB at €22!
    (I volunteer! jeje)
    I was actually looking how possible this was with this server without paying for another ip fee but didn't see much around.

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  • 40TB? That's not enough for anything serious yet if you want to setup a plex server :P

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  • yongsikleeyongsiklee Member, Patron Provider

    @itoshikimonset said:
    That's a good one to share with someone else. 16GB RAM, 2c-4000CPUB, 20TB at €22!
    (I volunteer! jeje)
    I was actually looking how possible this was with this server without paying for another ip fee but didn't see much around.

    Well, I can share it with you if you lay down terms in detail.

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  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    Storage is overrated.
    Content should reside in the RAM or Intel Optane.
    Disk is only for booting operating system.

    Thus, I'd rather take 2TB RAM and 256GB NVMe.

    Thanked by 1yongsiklee
  • AdvinAdvin Member, Patron Provider

    I bought one of these a few weeks ago, still haven't properly set it up yet :)
    I'm gonna use it for all of my personal stuff and throw TrueNAS on it :)

    Thanked by 1yongsiklee
  • yongsikleeyongsiklee Member, Patron Provider

    @yoursunny said:
    Storage is overrated.
    Content should reside in the RAM or Intel Optane.
    Disk is only for booting operating system.

    Thus, I'd rather take 2TB RAM and 256GB NVMe.

    So what you are saying is a 40TB storage should be used only as a booting purpose.
    That's too...cool.

  • yongsikleeyongsiklee Member, Patron Provider

    @Advin said:
    I bought one of these a few weeks ago, still haven't properly set it up yet :)
    I'm gonna use it for all of my personal stuff and throw TrueNAS on it.

    Can you do # hdparm on that disks?

  • typicalGtaTGtypicalGtaTG Member, Host Rep

    Run plex on it and manage your own library, use it for hosting linux isos, have it as a secondary backup server. store some personal stuff on it like family photos etc.

    Aside from that, I don't think it is much of any use unless you're willing to pay for the IPs, then a lot can be done with that much storage.

    I guess you could also share it with someone and then split the cost of the servers and an additional IP (sadly the only IP that is still reasonable except for the setup fee). Then there's endless possibilities. Then too, you'd be limited by your memory if anything.

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  • sotssots Member

    I can have a mastodon server and store media files permanently on it.

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  • @yongsiklee said: DC: #HEL1-DC2 (HEL)

    Can't you see the server directly comes from hell !

  • mwtmwt Member

    @yongsiklee said:

    @yoursunny said:
    Storage is overrated.
    Content should reside in the RAM or Intel Optane.
    Disk is only for booting operating system.

    Thus, I'd rather take 2TB RAM and 256GB NVMe.

    So what you are saying is a 40TB storage should be used only as a booting purpose.
    That's too...cool.

    This wasn't a serious statement.

    Thanked by 1yongsiklee
  • lc475lc475 Member

    Don't buy something you don't want because it is only cheap.

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  • I'd use one or two disks for redundancy.

    Mount as a local drive via SSHFS or something like that, and use as a high-latency storage device.

    Store backups.

    Fill it with YABS and 4K .bmp memes.

  • JasonMJasonM Member

    4x10 TB HDD is good for personal storage.
    For real usage you could have got 2x1TB SSD/NVMe and host sites/apps/db

  • NekkiNekki Veteran

    @JasonM said:
    4x10 TB HDD is good for personal storage.
    For real usage you could have got 2x1TB SSD/NVMe and host sites/apps/db

    Define 'real usage' for me please, Sir.

  • @Nekki said:

    @JasonM said:
    4x10 TB HDD is good for personal storage.
    For real usage you could have got 2x1TB SSD/NVMe and host sites/apps/db

    Define 'real usage' for me please, Sir.

    He did, just not very detailedly, in the line you quote:

    host sites/apps/db

    So anything that might require much writing and/or random IO. Though many sites/apps are fine on legacy drives IMO, if the common working set fits into RAM or the use pattern is fairly low intensity.

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @MeAtExampleDotCom said:
    So anything that might require much writing and/or random IO. Though many sites/apps are fine on legacy drives IMO, if the common working set fits into RAM or the use pattern is fairly low intensity.

    If "common working set fits into RAM", you may as well have the content reside in RAM at all times.

    @yoursunny said:
    Storage is overrated.
    Content should reside in the RAM or Intel Optane.
    Disk is only for booting operating system.

    You just need 25 servers around the world.
    You won't lose any data as long as not all of them fail / reboot at the same time.

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  • yongsikleeyongsiklee Member, Patron Provider

    @mwt said:

    @yongsiklee said:

    @yoursunny said:
    Storage is overrated.
    Content should reside in the RAM or Intel Optane.
    Disk is only for booting operating system.

    Thus, I'd rather take 2TB RAM and 256GB NVMe.

    So what you are saying is a 40TB storage should be used only as a booting purpose.
    That's too...cool.

    This wasn't a serious statement.

    I thought it was an extremely cool and serious statement.:-)

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @yongsiklee said:

    @mwt said:

    @yongsiklee said:

    @yoursunny said:
    Storage is overrated.
    Content should reside in the RAM or Intel Optane.
    Disk is only for booting operating system.

    Thus, I'd rather take 2TB RAM and 256GB NVMe.

    So what you are saying is a 40TB storage should be used only as a booting purpose.
    That's too...cool.

    This wasn't a serious statement.

    I thought it was an extremely cool and serious statement.:-)

    I build high performance network routers.
    Routers forward packets between Ethernet adapters, and cache content in RAM and Optane and possibly NVMe.
    HDD can only be used for booting the system; it's too slow otherwise.

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  • @yoursunny said: If "common working set fits into RAM", you may as well have the content reside in RAM at all times.

    Common working set is not the entirety of your data. Core data that is used all the time and data that regularly active users touch. In DayJob we have DBs in the10s (& 100s) of GiB range which have far smaller common working sets so the applications don't need that much RAM to feel like they are running from RAM most of the time. Of course if you can practically hold everything in RAM without breaking the bank, that is the way to go.

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  • dane_dohertydane_doherty Member
    edited June 2022

    How is Chia shitcoin these days?

    It's been a year.

  • Daniel15Daniel15 Veteran
    edited June 2022

    It won't be 40TB any more once you set up RAID...

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  • FalzoFalzo Member

    @Daniel15 said:
    It won't be 40TB any more once you set up RAID...

    It won't be 40 TiB without raid either ;-)

    Thanked by 1yongsiklee
  • dfroedfroe Member, Host Rep

    @Falzo said:

    @Daniel15 said:
    It won't be 40TB any more once you set up RAID...

    It won't be 40 TiB without raid either ;-)

    That's probably why he said TB without 'i' - may it be intentional or not. :)

    Anyways, tempting deal - if there was no VAT..

  • yongsikleeyongsiklee Member, Patron Provider

    @Daniel15 said:
    It won't be 40TB any more once you set up RAID...

    Is it still <40TB once you set up RAID...0?

  • Daniel15Daniel15 Veteran
    edited June 2022

    @yongsiklee said:

    @Daniel15 said:
    It won't be 40TB any more once you set up RAID...

    Is it still <40TB once you set up RAID...0?

    Usually when people say "RAID" they mean other levels (RAID 1, RAID 5, RAID 6, RAID 10, etc). I'm not sure how many people use RAID0 instead of other methods of combining the disks together, such as LVM, a ZFS zpool, or whatever btrfs does.

    Generally people don't want to lose data when a disk fails, and hard drives are a lot cheaper than they used to be many years ago, so it's becoming less common to use any of these methods to combine disks together.

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  • yongsikleeyongsiklee Member, Patron Provider

    @Daniel15 said:

    @yongsiklee said:

    @Daniel15 said:
    It won't be 40TB any more once you set up RAID...

    Is it still <40TB once you set up RAID...0?

    Usually when people say "RAID" they mean other levels (RAID 1, RAID 5, RAID 6, RAID 10, etc). I'm not sure how many people use RAID0 instead of other methods of combining the disks together, such as LVM, a ZFS zpool, or whatever btrfs does.

    Generally people don't want to lose data when a disk fails, and hard drives are a lot cheaper than they used to be many years ago, so it's becoming less common to use any of these methods to combine disks together.

    The question still remains: Is it still <40TB once you set up RAID...0?

  • lc475lc475 Member

    @yongsiklee said:

    @Daniel15 said:

    @yongsiklee said:

    @Daniel15 said:
    It won't be 40TB any more once you set up RAID...

    Is it still <40TB once you set up RAID...0?

    Usually when people say "RAID" they mean other levels (RAID 1, RAID 5, RAID 6, RAID 10, etc). I'm not sure how many people use RAID0 instead of other methods of combining the disks together, such as LVM, a ZFS zpool, or whatever btrfs does.

    Generally people don't want to lose data when a disk fails, and hard drives are a lot cheaper than they used to be many years ago, so it's becoming less common to use any of these methods to combine disks together.

    The question still remains: Is it still <40TB once you set up RAID...0?

    Yes, actual usable space for a 10TB HDD is around 9.1TB. After created RAID 0, you should get a 36.4TB volume.

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  • don't buy because hetzner will never let you stream 40TB's worth of data on an auction server. your account will suddenly disappear and your data with it.

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  • @stefeman said: 40TB? That's not enough for anything serious yet if you want to setup a plex server :P

    you can always stream them thru nginx's directory index and that doesn't require more than 32mb ram

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