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  • jimaekjimaek Member

    We do use it, but yes, our logic allows other DBs to override ipinfo if they have a majority. I'll look into this issue and PM you

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  • zGatozGato Member

    @jimaek said:
    We do use it, but yes, our logic allows other DBs to override ipinfo if they have a majority. I'll look into this issue and PM you

    It's a very niche scenario so no top priority, but I think it's fine to be able to select the country from each db (auto-city/geoip using the algo is totally okay, just be able to fix these weird scenarios)

    I also found out that many (and I really mean many) of my probes have France in the country selection. I have no clue from which db this comes from, but very strange.

  • @sh97 said: Global list itself, I manually tag em in the DB and override the display name for LET user

    I went and added a handful of probes, could you get me added to the leaderboard please? Same username.

    Thanked by 2nghialele sh97
  • @sh97 anddd meee please to the leaderboard, same username.

    Thanked by 2nghialele sh97
  • sh97sh97 Member, Host Rep

    @HackedServer said:

    @sh97 said: Global list itself, I manually tag em in the DB and override the display name for LET user

    I went and added a handful of probes, could you get me added to the leaderboard please? Same username.

    @JohnFilch123 said:
    @sh97 anddd meee please to the leaderboard, same username.

    Will get it done one of these days

  • I see my name on the list already.

  • nghialelenghialele Member
    edited May 8

    Chat I'm back.

    4 losses during the mental breakdown last few weeks. :D

    Thanked by 1zGato
  • wii747wii747 Member

    @sh97 add me to the leaderboard page with the same username.

  • @jimaek said:
    We do use it, but yes, our logic allows other DBs to override ipinfo if they have a majority. I'll look into this issue and PM you

    Hey Dimitry, nice to meet you.

    FYI, if you are going to implement a majority override implementation in IP geolocation selection, you likely will not benefit much from using our data in many cases. We use active measurement-based geolocation. Kinda same thing we are discussing here, but currently have 920+ servers dedicated entirely to active measurements.

    Traditionally, IP geolocation is based on more of a data parsing service from geofeed and WHOIS data. So, the rest of the industry is going to have consensus on many IP addresses as they all use the same data, which is ASN/ISP self-reported data.

    In those cases (I would not say edge cases as this is quite prolific), our data is not going to agree with the rest of the industry because we are right, the rest are simply wrong. We highly do not recommend using consensus-models for doing IP geolocation through selecting multiple data providers.

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  • jimaekjimaek Member

    We did run many tests and while ipinfo was correct in many cases, it was also often wrong.

    The current algorithm gives ipinfo priority but still allows other DBs to override it and based on our tests it resulted in higher accuracy overall.

    And btw, I would love it if we could run our probes on your network of servers :)

  • @jimaek said:
    We did run many tests and while ipinfo was correct in many cases, it was also often wrong.

    The current algorithm gives ipinfo priority but still allows other DBs to override it and based on our tests it resulted in higher accuracy overall.

    Thank you very much.

    This is really interesting. Can you flag these IP addresses for us in any way? I would really appreciate that feedback. We will investigate each issue thoroughly.

    And btw, I would love it if we could run our probes on your network of servers :)

    I will talk with the team, but it will take me a while to push the request through. A very limited number of team members (like ~1.5 regular people) manage these 920+ servers. So, we operate it very conservatively.

    Adding new features is very tough for us because maintenance, marginal improvements, and expansion take up most of our time. I hope you understand.

  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    @jimaek said:
    We did run many tests and while ipinfo was correct in many cases, it was also often wrong.

    The current algorithm gives ipinfo priority but still allows other DBs to override it and based on our tests it resulted in higher accuracy overall.

    And btw, I would love it if we could run our probes on your network of servers :)

    Latency tests can work but they can also be an entire clusterfuck.
    Like, try to geolocate an IP in Europe, good luck.

  • @Neoon said:

    @jimaek said:
    We did run many tests and while ipinfo was correct in many cases, it was also often wrong.

    The current algorithm gives ipinfo priority but still allows other DBs to override it and based on our tests it resulted in higher accuracy overall.

    And btw, I would love it if we could run our probes on your network of servers :)

    Latency tests can work but they can also be an entire clusterfuck.
    Like, try to geolocate an IP in Europe, good luck.

    We are aware of that. For example, SDWAN. Although it is our primary data, latency data is just one of many data points for us. We have dozens of locations in Frankfurt, Amsterdam,
    London etc. to address the latency-related challenges. We have the data and are aware of our shortcomings and we are working on improving it.

    We are forming a great research team and we form and consider new ideas for IP geolocation and IP data in general. We are less than 60 people and we have several literal internet scientists across our data and research team.

    The ProbeNet generates the data for us, then our research and data team take that data and make better inferences. Even though it makes us better than everyone else but our goal is to get as close to 100% as possible. We are trying, trust us, it will keep getting better.

    Another aspect I have to point out that helps is talking with our users. Like I am literally talking to the creator of JSdelivr in this thread. I am also familiar with your Yaammdb and Looking Glass project. You are an awesome guy as well.

    You guys can show me things that I never knew before. Taking feedback does help us a lot and point out where we can improve things.

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  • JabJabJabJab Member
    edited May 16

    Free bump aka year later I bought an sdcard and revived probe.
    Should have done it much earlier with Amazon free one day shipping to Paczkomat ffs, my bad, sorry :(

    I also somehow needed to adopt my probe two times. I did it once on dash-directus, set some additional settings and 3 minutes later it was gone. Adopted it once again via dash. Showing only once in my list of my probes... but twice in log, I am not seeing things.

    I hope I didn't break anything :-D

    Thanked by 2nghialele gbzret4d
  • jimaekjimaek Member

    You really shouldn't be logging in the directus panel directly :) Use the normal dash.globalping.io

    But it should all be good

  • jimaekjimaek Member

    You can now analyze the geo location of your probes against all the geo DBs we're using and report any issues using this tool https://geodebug.globalping.dev/98.98.170.188

    And if there are any AI fans over here you can also connect to our remote MCP server https://blog.globalping.io/ai-global-network-access-globalping-mcp-server/

  • sh97sh97 Member, Host Rep

    reguards

  • JohnFilch123JohnFilch123 Member
    edited May 24

    I am still not tracked by globalpi.ng :confused:

  • JabJabJabJab Member
    edited June 8

    Some questions aka free bump.

    1. Is there a chance to disable IPv6? Like a tag/checkbox in webUI and it will stop testing IPv6? I have IPv6 disabled in my network, on purpose, it will never be enabled [until Orange force me to].
    2. Why Dashboard is showing my probe as offline... yet it still sends ping requests to it? :D
    [2025-06-08 11:17:27 +00:00] [DEBUG] [general] 'ping' request HERrSqkTon6a4u2o received.
    
    1. I guess nameservers changed for registry.in and it shouldn't be like that:
    [2025-06-08 11:19:13 +00:00] [WARN] [status-manager] IPv4 ping test unsuccessful for ns1.registry.in: ping: ns1.registry.in: Name or service not known. IPv4 tests pass.
    

    EDIT:

    Seems I had to adopt probe again. It went "offline" 2 weeks ago (?).
    Are those hardware probes really adopted "per IP" and when IP changes it goes away? It's not based on some kind of hash of hardware things? mac+cpu+idk?

  • jimaekjimaek Member
    1. Not at the moment, only to fail the v6 ping test. But I guess that's what it's doing, you can just ignore the logs if that's the issue.

    2. Shouldn't be happening. Send me the probe IP to check

    3. Indeed, thanks letting me know

    4. Older firmware were only IP based. But it should be smart enough to handle IP changes unless the probe was offline during the IP change. Try upgrading the firmware if you can. You can also PM me the details to check the logs

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  • wii747wii747 Member

    @JohnFilch123 said:
    I am still not tracked by globalpi.ng :confused:

    Same here

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  • DecicusDecicus Member

    @wii747 said:

    @JohnFilch123 said:
    I am still not tracked by globalpi.ng :confused:

    Same here

    @sh97

  • sh97sh97 Member, Host Rep

    @Decicus said:

    @wii747 said:

    @JohnFilch123 said:
    I am still not tracked by globalpi.ng :confused:

    Same here

    @sh97

    Thanks for tag - will get em added soon

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