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  • @sandoz said:

    @Francisco said:

    @sandoz said: Adult websites have mostly DMCA content

    You sure?

    The same ORG owns like....most of the tube and paid for sites these days.

    You should really check the site list that owns pornhub. They're based out of Montreal and own an insane amount of sites.

    Francisco

    Yes, I'm sure.

    The only way to avoid DMCA, is make your own porn company and videos.

    Besides original content, you can also license porn and be entitled to host and or sell. That's business.

  • GeorgeMarianGeorgeMarian Member
    edited May 2022

    @HostMT3 said:
    Well, I will left Asia for who is specialized in that. I don't have knowledge about Asian Providers. You must search in other places..

    For Europe, is always the same providers around here. I can vouch for Incognet.io aka @MannDude for privacy and freedom of speech, I don't know if they allow this or not, but mention him to confirm.

    Europe DMCA Ignored Hostings
    **from my experience or knowledged, don't trust in all.. check & confirm their TOS)

    https://incognet.io - I had good experience with Web Hosting, not problems so far, might be dmca ignored?
    https://alexhost.com - Had VPS with them,DMCA Ignored and host some controversial websites and some hacking forums also, but their network isn't good at all, is "acceptable" because is in Moldova.
    https://flokinet.is - Well this provider, is kinda uhhh they are privacy focused and freedom of speech but don't allow websites against vaccines? Wait what? Yes that is true.
    https://novogara.com - Need to talk about them? Google it will be easy
    https://privatelayer.com - Host thousands and thousands of pirated websites
    https://spectraip.net
    https://buyvm.net - LUX Location
    https://prq.se (good luck.. not the cheapest)

    Now do your job, and take a look in those.

    Thanks dude.

    @Francisco said:

    @sandoz said: Adult websites have mostly DMCA content

    You sure?

    The same ORG owns like....most of the tube and paid for sites these days.

    You should really check the site list that owns pornhub. They're based out of Montreal and own an insane amount of sites.

    Francisco

    But do you accept warez linking websites or not? I like your Network specially with good ddos protection.

    Thank you guys for all suggestions I'm using Privatelayer and they are pretty nice!

  • I may ask @jsg @Maounique what you think about russia? I had recently read your feedback in Ukraine thread, what about using russia as hosting for dmca?

    https://torrentfreak.com/russias-forced-licensing-plan-for-enemy-content-legalizes-piracy-220513/

  • jahrincjahrinc Member

    @GeorgeMarian said: what about using russia as hosting for dmca?

    There are a lot of providers in Russia that simply give 0 shits about dmca.

    One of them being ddos-guard, selectel, veesp (registered in Latvia, but ignore dmca in their Russian, and Latvian locations), ihor, etc.

  • sandozsandoz Veteran

    @jahrinc said:

    @GeorgeMarian said: what about using russia as hosting for dmca?

    There are a lot of providers in Russia that simply give 0 shits about dmca.

    One of them being ddos-guard, selectel, veesp (registered in Latvia, but ignore dmca in their Russian, and Latvian locations), ihor, etc.

    Veesp have in their TOS that they don't allow it.

  • AltesAltes Member

    @jahrinc said:

    @GeorgeMarian said: what about using russia as hosting for dmca?

    There are a lot of providers in Russia that simply give 0 shits about dmca.

    One of them being ddos-guard, selectel, veesp (registered in Latvia, but ignore dmca in their Russian, and Latvian locations), ihor, etc.

    As long as you're paying for any DDoS-Guard plan, they won't care... but if you start getting one too many complaints, they will ask you for more money, and so on, and so forth... think of it like one big circle jerk. Ironically enough, you will be paying for "protection" from rightsholders' "attacks", and not DDoS.

    Selectel and Veesp won't be a good fit if you continue to get any type of notices, but Ihor/Maros will mostly ignore things when it comes to warez, but once again, you may end up paying for "protection", and you're at their mercy.

    Think of it like making the deal with the devil... can't really go to the cops and complain about practically being extorted later on. Especially if you fully rely on them.

  • jahrincjahrinc Member

    @sandoz said: Veesp have in their TOS that they don't allow it.

    They all say that, biggest spanish movies/tv shows gnula, is with them.

  • sandozsandoz Veteran
    edited May 2022

    @jahrinc said:

    @sandoz said: Veesp have in their TOS that they don't allow it.

    They all say that, biggest spanish movies/tv shows gnula, is with them.

    Yes, but is because they recommend that in Spanish websites.
    Veesp can takedown when they want without saying nothing about it, zero. They have it very explicit there.

    Why you should trust on them, if is explicited and is against the TOS? Even if they allow, they are protected from anything, they will use the excuse that is against their TOS, when it being convinient for them.

    Words are just words. The promise and the truth is what we should value instead "words saying we don't suspend for dmca" but in their TOS is written there.

    @TWC said:

    @jahrinc said:

    @GeorgeMarian said: what about using russia as hosting for dmca?

    There are a lot of providers in Russia that simply give 0 shits about dmca.

    One of them being ddos-guard, selectel, veesp (registered in Latvia, but ignore dmca in their Russian, and Latvian locations), ihor, etc.

    As long as you're paying for any DDoS-Guard plan, they won't care... but if you start getting one too many complaints, they will ask you for more money, and so on, and so forth... think of it like one big circle jerk. Ironically enough, you will be paying for "protection" from rightsholders' "attacks", and not DDoS.

    Selectel and Veesp won't be a good fit if you continue to get any type of notices, but Ihor/Maros will mostly ignore things when it comes to warez, but once again, you may end up paying for "protection", and you're at their mercy.

    Think of it like making the deal with the devil... can't really go to the cops and complain about practically being extorted later on. Especially if you fully rely on them.

    What about 2x4.ru, alexhost and privatelayer, and of course the famous Koddos. Those have many hosted with them.

  • AltesAltes Member

    @sandoz said: Why you should trust on them, if is explicited and is against the TOS? Even if they allow, they are protected from anything, they will use the excuse that is against their TOS, when it being convinient for them. Words are just words. The promise and the truth is what we should value instead "words saying we don't suspend for dmca" but in their TOS is written there.

    That doesn't mean that they won't ignore the notices, though. It just means that they want to be covered legally.

    @sandoz said: What about 2x4.ru, alexhost and privatelayer, and of course the famous Koddos. Those have many hosted with them.

    I'd say that 2x4's time is long past, and that while they were a big thing many many years ago, hosting with them wouldn't make much sense in 2022. Not only because of the hardware, but because of the prices, as well.

    I don't believe that they would cause any issues for warez, especially now due to the US and RU relations going very sour because of what happened in the Ukraine.

    Moreover, hosting those types of websites in Russia will probably become a huge thing, or at least continuing to use DDoS-Guard as a reverse proxy.

    Private Layer is kind of in a similar situation like 2x4, and short of streaming websites and IPTV projects that are closely affiliated with them, not many people will be using them due to the high prices.

    Koddos is kind of a money grab for the most part, meant to attract the clueless customers into paying a higher amount for something that they could achieve with a single Hetzner server and DDoS-Guard acting as a reverse proxy, or even simply CloudFlare.

    AlexHost is probably the most financially sensible out of all of them, although they make the mistake the others don't: they advertise as being a DMCA ignore host (much like BlueAngelHost and a few others that host out of neighboring Bulgaria).

    I wouldn't trust any of them to keep your information safe, or your data, though... so if anything, you should always use those types of companies as throwaway options (proxy), and not for much else.

    All of them will ignore notices to a point (although they may charge you more if you cause administrative issues), but they can't ignore notices sent directly to their carriers, especially if multiple employees are CC'd.

    I think that the fully-Russia based ISP's may start ignoring any type of notices relating to warez due to using local carriers (Rostelecom, PINSPB, etc) and not relying on connectivity from Lumen, HE, GTT, etc. But I don't believe that they will ignore notices sent to their carriers relating to pornographic websites, however... since they can be fined by Roskomnadzor.

  • sandozsandoz Veteran

    @TWC said:

    @sandoz said: Why you should trust on them, if is explicited and is against the TOS? Even if they allow, they are protected from anything, they will use the excuse that is against their TOS, when it being convinient for them. Words are just words. The promise and the truth is what we should value instead "words saying we don't suspend for dmca" but in their TOS is written there.

    That doesn't mean that they won't ignore the notices, though. It just means that they want to be covered legally.

    @sandoz said: What about 2x4.ru, alexhost and privatelayer, and of course the famous Koddos. Those have many hosted with them.

    I'd say that 2x4's time is long past, and that while they were a big thing many many years ago, hosting with them wouldn't make much sense in 2022. Not only because of the hardware, but because of the prices, as well.

    I don't believe that they would cause any issues for warez, especially now due to the US and RU relations going very sour because of what happened in the Ukraine.

    Moreover, hosting those types of websites in Russia will probably become a huge thing, or at least continuing to use DDoS-Guard as a reverse proxy.

    Private Layer is kind of in a similar situation like 2x4, and short of streaming websites and IPTV projects that are closely affiliated with them, not many people will be using them due to the high prices.

    Koddos is kind of a money grab for the most part, meant to attract the clueless customers into paying a higher amount for something that they could achieve with a single Hetzner server and DDoS-Guard acting as a reverse proxy, or even simply CloudFlare.

    AlexHost is probably the most financially sensible out of all of them, although they make the mistake the others don't: they advertise as being a DMCA ignore host (much like BlueAngelHost and a few others that host out of neighboring Bulgaria).

    I wouldn't trust any of them to keep your information safe, or your data, though... so if anything, you should always use those types of companies as throwaway options (proxy), and not for much else.

    All of them will ignore notices to a point (although they may charge you more if you cause administrative issues), but they can't ignore notices sent directly to their carriers, especially if multiple employees are CC'd.

    I think that the fully-Russia based ISP's may start ignoring any type of notices relating to warez due to using local carriers (Rostelecom, PINSPB, etc) and not relying on connectivity from Lumen, HE, GTT, etc. But I don't believe that they will ignore notices sent to their carriers relating to pornographic websites, however... since they can be fined by Roskomnadzor.

    But Koddos is offshore and is registrated in Belize and other places. Some people and feedback I have been read they are resistant against DMCA and abuses.

    Privatelayer their prices are high but they have a lot of websites (with DMCA) with them, if you read US 301 Special Market they are listed there for those things.

    Alexhost? I didn't understand what you mean, but they also ignore a lot of abuses and complaints, their network is "reasonable" due to Moldova, but they ignore a tons of DMCA and other things. Can you tell more about that?

    2x4 I believe in One of master in Rússia ignoring DMCA in Rússia Location.

    We aren't never secure, if some provider gets court order from local law things will be bad for them and customer. It is what it is.

  • ThundasThundas Member

    I own multiple anime streaming sites, I was hosted on privatelayer but the servers are expensive as hell, now I'm sitting on a couple cheap hetzner servers with ddos-guard enterprise as a reverse proxy, also running a script to change links every 24/36 hours so DMCA requests will go to a 404 link so ddos-guard won't try increase prices on me. The prices are way lower this way than when I was in privatelayer with multiple servers.

  • YmpkerYmpker Member
    edited May 2022

    @Ahfaiahkid said:
    I own multiple anime streaming sites, I was hosted on privatelayer but the servers are expensive as hell, now I'm sitting on a couple cheap hetzner servers with ddos-guard enterprise as a reverse proxy, also running a script to change links every 24/36 hours so DMCA requests will go to a 404 link so ddos-guard won't try increase prices on me. The prices are way lower this way than when I was in privatelayer with multiple servers.

    In memory of KissAnime before it became bad.
    These days, almost everything I need is on Crunchyroll, though. It's really affordable (esp compared to Flix), too. Didn't assume that you'd self-host the media (even with proxy), though. Don't most of these sites have mirrors to 4-5 random file hosting/mp4 hosting sites which they just embed?

    Thanked by 1Thundas
  • ThundasThundas Member
    edited May 2022

    @Ympker said:

    @Ahfaiahkid said:
    I own multiple anime streaming sites, I was hosted on privatelayer but the servers are expensive as hell, now I'm sitting on a couple cheap hetzner servers with ddos-guard enterprise as a reverse proxy, also running a script to change links every 24/36 hours so DMCA requests will go to a 404 link so ddos-guard won't try increase prices on me. The prices are way lower this way than when I was in privatelayer with multiple servers.

    In memory of KissAnime before it became bad.
    These days, almost everything I need is on Crunchyroll, though. It's really affordable (esp compared to Flix), too. Didn't assume that you'd self-host the media (even with proxy), though. Don't most of these sites have mirrors to 4-5 random file hosting/mp4 hosting sites which they just embed?

    We used to do that but in the past when I used to hire staff to do it for me but now I just need 3-4 full-time uploaders with our own cluster of servers, those are unreliable at best, you can notice some sites try to obfuscate where they are hosting these files due to the anime companies DMCA taking down the videos fast. We just host our own cluster for it and disguise it as an invite-only video hosting platform but it is proxied through ddos-guard. Sites which just embed videos without any attempt at obfuscation from video hosting sites is rare now cause of the constant DMCA requests from the anime companies, I think they hire people for that lol. Also with the number of videos that some series do have will require a paid account at some of the hosting sites, it's cheaper for us in the long run to do it this way. We make most of our money from ads and users will leave if most of the videos are not available.

    Edit - In the long run now that Crunchyroll has more titles and users get better jobs, our site will be obsolete but right now most of our users are from non-first-world countries.

    Thanked by 1Ympker
  • YmpkerYmpker Member

    @Ahfaiahkid said:

    @Ympker said:

    @Ahfaiahkid said:
    I own multiple anime streaming sites, I was hosted on privatelayer but the servers are expensive as hell, now I'm sitting on a couple cheap hetzner servers with ddos-guard enterprise as a reverse proxy, also running a script to change links every 24/36 hours so DMCA requests will go to a 404 link so ddos-guard won't try increase prices on me. The prices are way lower this way than when I was in privatelayer with multiple servers.

    In memory of KissAnime before it became bad.
    These days, almost everything I need is on Crunchyroll, though. It's really affordable (esp compared to Flix), too. Didn't assume that you'd self-host the media (even with proxy), though. Don't most of these sites have mirrors to 4-5 random file hosting/mp4 hosting sites which they just embed?

    We used to do that but in the past when I used to hire staff to do it for me but now I just need 3-4 full-time uploaders with our own cluster of servers, those are unreliable at best, you can notice some sites try to obfuscate where they are hosting these files due to the anime companies DMCA taking down the videos fast. We just host our own cluster for it and disguise it as an invite-only video hosting platform but it is proxied through ddos-guard. Sites which just embed videos without any attempt at obfuscation from video hosting sites is rare now cause of the constant DMCA requests from the anime companies, I think they hire people for that lol. Also with the number of videos that some series do have will require a paid account at some of the hosting sites, it's cheaper for us in the long run to do it this way. We make most of our money from ads and users will leave if most of the videos are not available.

    Edit - In the long run now that Crunchyroll has more titles and users get better jobs, our site will be obsolete but right now most of our users are from non-first-world countries.

    Thanks for explaining in detail. Very interesting. Good luck wherever your journey takes you. I can say that even CR and the like lack some really good anime series and hidden gems that I am always happy to see being preserved on sites like yours. See you on the Grand Line, then.

    Thanked by 1Thundas
  • HostMT3HostMT3 Member
    edited June 2022

    Interested in backup and cheap vps for storage and seedboxs any provider in LET? DMCA Ignored is a must also.

    Must be in EU or close to it, due to Ping and Network.

  • Any Canadian VPS should do as well. As they do notice and notice.
    As long as there's no court order to take down the server. Your VPS should stay up.

  • jahrincjahrinc Member
    edited June 2022

    @Alex_Leo said: As long as there's no court order to take down the server. Your VPS should stay up.

    Yeah Amanah in Toronto ignores DMCA, but they are expensive.

    They forward abuse for "the client's consideration". A lot of VPN companies use them in Toronto such as, to name a few: Mullvad, OVPN.

  • @Alex_Leo said:
    Any Canadian VPS should do as well. As they do notice and notice.
    As long as there's no court order to take down the server. Your VPS should stay up.

    You said Canadian, but is important to check their TOS/AUP. Most of them say the opposite if you check their policies. You didn't mention any Canadian provider, which one are able to ignore dmca and all stuff like that?

    In the past I heard that Canada accepts everything of USA in terms of laws, court orders even if isn't come from Canada local law. Seems like Canada & USA have agreement. It needs to be research. I can bet that they have something of kind of agreement between them, in case of sharing information and takedowns for both parts.

    For me Canadian Hosts, is like having your servers in US... But correct me if i'm wrong.

  • @HostMT3 said:

    @Alex_Leo said:
    Any Canadian VPS should do as well. As they do notice and notice.
    As long as there's no court order to take down the server. Your VPS should stay up.

    You said Canadian, but is important to check their TOS/AUP. Most of them say the opposite if you check their policies. You didn't mention any Canadian provider, which one are able to ignore dmca and all stuff like that?

    In the past I heard that Canada accepts everything of USA in terms of laws, court orders even if isn't come from Canada local law. Seems like Canada & USA have agreement. It needs to be research. I can bet that they have something of kind of agreement between them, in case of sharing information and takedowns for both parts.

    For me Canadian Hosts, is like having your servers in US... But correct me if i'm wrong.

    Yes, you're wrong.

    There was a time when lawyers would send notices to Canadian torrent users of infringement and try and trick people into settling for $1500.

    The Canadian government put out a statement basically saying they have no legal effect, but you probably should be better copyright citizens, so ISP's do need to continue forwarding infringement notices, but without any effective legal teeth.

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  • @HostMT3 said:

    @Alex_Leo said:
    Any Canadian VPS should do as well. As they do notice and notice.
    As long as there's no court order to take down the server. Your VPS should stay up.

    You said Canadian, but is important to check their TOS/AUP. Most of them say the opposite if you check their policies. You didn't mention any Canadian provider, which one are able to ignore dmca and all stuff like that?

    In the past I heard that Canada accepts everything of USA in terms of laws, court orders even if isn't come from Canada local law. Seems like Canada & USA have agreement. It needs to be research. I can bet that they have something of kind of agreement between them, in case of sharing information and takedowns for both parts.

    For me Canadian Hosts, is like having your servers in US... But correct me if i'm wrong.

    Like @TimboJones said, they only send out infringement notices but have no legal consequences. Unless the VPS provider is anal about it and goes out of their way to terminate the service. Most just forward the notice and are done with it.

  • @TimboJones said:

    @HostMT3 said:

    @Alex_Leo said:
    Any Canadian VPS should do as well. As they do notice and notice.
    As long as there's no court order to take down the server. Your VPS should stay up.

    You said Canadian, but is important to check their TOS/AUP. Most of them say the opposite if you check their policies. You didn't mention any Canadian provider, which one are able to ignore dmca and all stuff like that?

    In the past I heard that Canada accepts everything of USA in terms of laws, court orders even if isn't come from Canada local law. Seems like Canada & USA have agreement. It needs to be research. I can bet that they have something of kind of agreement between them, in case of sharing information and takedowns for both parts.

    For me Canadian Hosts, is like having your servers in US... But correct me if i'm wrong.

    Yes, you're wrong.

    There was a time when lawyers would send notices to Canadian torrent users of infringement and try and trick people into settling for $1500.

    The Canadian government put out a statement basically saying they have no legal effect, but you probably should be better copyright citizens, so ISP's do need to continue forwarding infringement notices, but without any effective legal teeth.

    Canadian is bad, they leaked in the past piratebay without court order. A big no.

  • @GeorgeMarian said:

    @TimboJones said:

    @HostMT3 said:

    @Alex_Leo said:
    Any Canadian VPS should do as well. As they do notice and notice.
    As long as there's no court order to take down the server. Your VPS should stay up.

    You said Canadian, but is important to check their TOS/AUP. Most of them say the opposite if you check their policies. You didn't mention any Canadian provider, which one are able to ignore dmca and all stuff like that?

    In the past I heard that Canada accepts everything of USA in terms of laws, court orders even if isn't come from Canada local law. Seems like Canada & USA have agreement. It needs to be research. I can bet that they have something of kind of agreement between them, in case of sharing information and takedowns for both parts.

    For me Canadian Hosts, is like having your servers in US... But correct me if i'm wrong.

    Yes, you're wrong.

    There was a time when lawyers would send notices to Canadian torrent users of infringement and try and trick people into settling for $1500.

    The Canadian government put out a statement basically saying they have no legal effect, but you probably should be better copyright citizens, so ISP's do need to continue forwarding infringement notices, but without any effective legal teeth.

    Canadian is bad, they leaked in the past piratebay without court order. A big no.

    Decoder ring available?

  • gzzgzz Member

    I can vouch that koddos doesn’t care about abuse at all. They simply delete abuse report tickets and block your email from submitting more :p

    I don’t think they’re a cash grab, they are more resilient then other providers.

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